I request you to provide a link to the thread where that happened. I have been aware that there would be criminal tax evasion penalties for non compliance with the mandatory insurance provisions for a long time. Up until now their was no final bill to criticize so I did not harp on it.

Now you are just being dishonest. Post the thread to where it happened or I will be forced to assume that it occurred in one of your many alternate realities.

Anyway they will be along shortly with your Thorazine and you will forget about us evil Zionists for a while. :)

Tax evasion is a crime in and of itself. It is not related to the health care bill. The penalty for not having health insurance is 2.5%. Everything else is seperate.

What you are essentially saying is this. I get a parking ticket and show up to court. I start yelling obscenities at the judge and get charged with contempt of court and serve 30 days in jail. Therefore, the penalty for parking illegally is 30 days in jail.

Failure to pay a fine or serve your sentence is a completely different crime in this country. Before you spout off on people calling them illiterate, you should educate yourself on our judicial system before you continue to make a larger fool of yourself.

And my post is not a statement in favor or in opposition of the proposed health care bill.

While I am impressed by your ability to write in complete sentences, that does change the fact that your statements do nothing to disprove my point that the maximum penalty for failing to comply with the mandatory health insurance provisions would be possible jail time.

The people I accused of being illiterate demonstrated as much by their obvious inability to read. In your case I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you read quite well and are just attempting to intentionally obfuscate the issue. :winkwink:

OK so I apologize you weren't in on at least the last two conversations but your "buddies in denial" were. Just to give you an idea of how I've been talking "crazy" about this for some time

09-29-2009, 11:11 PM

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=930640


Now you might want to ask yourself. How in the hell did he know that over a month ago? If you really want the answer I'll tell you. I"M PAYING ATTENTION AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR GAMES OF DECEPTION.

On another note. This bill gets better. There are apparently at least 7-800 more pages of it not being shown which will as usual come out just before being voted on.

So my "buddies in denial" were speaking for me in this case??? Are we a single unit functioning in tandem just like the monolithic evil Zionists? :1orglaugh


There has been plenty of talk for months about criminal penalties for failure to comply with with the mandatory insurance provisions and that healthcare "reform" is a big gift to the insurance industry. I agree with your statement in that thread but it was hardly some groundbreaking revelation.

no......

Every single crime in this country is punishable by jail time if you don't pay your fine or fulfill your sentence. You can go to jail for not wearing your seat belt or watering your lawn during restricted times if you don't pay your fine.

Your title says if you don't buy insurance, you go to jail. That is not true. You only go to jail if you commit tax evasion which is another crime. You are the one intentionally obfuscating the issue by leaving an extremely important fact out of your initial statement.

The title was a short summary of the contents of the post (that is how a title typically works). My initial post stated that the options are "buy insurance for $15,000 per year, pay a penalty tax of 2.5% of income or face a penalty of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years."

That is a correct statement and you have written nothing to refute it.

I am starting to realize I gave you too much credit when I assumed you could read with some amount of comprehension. :disgust

Yeah there's a little group of you which always end up talking shit without backing it up.

Such as this one on this very topic
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=936860&page=3

I can only go back so far in history here. I've been saying since they started all this health care bullshit that this is exactly what they were going to do. It's never been about helping anyone out but the governments budget. All of the debate was just for show. Make people think they care and are actually getting something other than greased up and bent over. After it's been put into law let all of the real nasty crap come out and the masses will take their pills like good little sheep.

Yeah! Good Times! Good Times!



https://youtube.com/watch?v=QI4wjTMSizo

Not to worry, $15,000 in 2016 will be worth today's dollar. :helpme

Oh shnap, fiddy!

Sorry I did not see my posts in that thread either. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else?

What did you say before about brain dead people? :winkwink:

Ha ha. Good point. :thumbsup

I have nothing to refute about that. Your title was misleading and still is. That should have been your title (or something more compact). You purposely left out an important fact to try and make your point.

I'll let you get back to regurgitating the daily talking points.

:thumbsup

The title was an oversimplification......... there is no denying that. I was probably up to something insidious like trying to get people to read my post. :winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Thinking the same thing ... I hope he has health care insurrance :winkwink:

blind obedience+stupidity=liberalism.

Just because the feds put penalties into law doesnt mean they get enforced. Name one person in jail solely because of a 2257 violation, a law mandating 5 years in jail.
Prisons are overcrowded enough that many states release nonviolent prisoners early.
So the idea that people will do time for not buying insurance from a price gouging, claims denying insurance company...that is the true delusion in this thread.

The + Demon = Moron

Stupidity does not quite explain it. More like willful ignorance. :2 cents:

^I rest my case. ROFL

Thanks again Arnox!

How many people are in jail for tax evasion? Because thats what this is. Nothing compared to a 2257.

People in jail on tax evasion do so because of big money numbers, not because someone skipped out on an insurance invoice.
when the day arrives when someone goes to jail for evading healthcare taxes/penalties/insurance/whatever, bump this thread & call me wrong.
Its not going to happen. They waive time for people doing DWI, so dont think for a second anyone will sit in jail for evading health insurance/taxes/penalties/whatever.

You should learn to comprehend, or just read if you do not understand the topic. :2 cents:

Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back, this hasn't exactly been a secret. They've been saying that for quite a while.

I'm not, I'm just sick and tired of people running off at the mouth about how great it's going to be when these dumb fucks pass these bills when they have no fucking idea what the real motives behind it all is. They live in this false fucking reality of Obama is going to make everything all right everyone will have cheap and free health care. blah blah blah. I'm sick and tired of it. Damn near ready to leave this fucking country.

It's called liberalism, and it's been the butt of virtually every joke in America since the end of the 60's.

However, I AM objective and I WILL state that the same goes on when a Republican is president. Blind obedience, ignorance, and stupidity dominate America.

Or conservationism. They are both different sides of the same coin.

I'm not going to get into it all right now because honestly I'm tired of explaining shit to people. But let me tell you something. We don't have more than the entire world behind bars because we are doing things right by making more laws. You want to know the reason we do? Because of bonds and securities which are sold on prisoners. Ahh fuck I want to get drunk and forget about all this bullshit rather than explain how things work to you so here ya go read up

How a Prisoner Funds America
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/priso...a03oct04.shtml

That's just a needle in the haystack

Conservationism? Lol I think you mean conservatism. And while they are on different ends of the spectrum, one makes more sense than the other.

LOL spell check fucked me over and I was too lazy to notice. You are correct. I meant conservatism.

And no, blind conservatism doesn't make any more sense than blind liberalism.

Here are two examples. Tell me how one is better than other.

During this last election I saw both of these things on the news.

Liberal- A person they were interviewing basically was explaining how Obama was going to save them and give them hope and provide for them. Forget getting a job or going back to school or working hard, they wanted Obama and the democrats to take care of them and they believed it was going to happen and that they were "owed" this. That is stupidity.

Conservative- In Ohio they talked to several people in an area that was traditionally conservative. They talked to 5-6 people during this report and every one of them said the same thing. They said that they thought Obama was the smarter guy who had better ideas and was the better choice to be president. However, they can't bring themselves to vote for anyone that is pro-choice so they were voting for McCain. When further asked they agreed that no matter how qualified a candidate is they will never vote for someone that is pro-choice. And no matter unqualified a candidate might be if they are pro-life and running against a pro-choice candidate they will always vote for that person. That is stupidity.

There is money being made off of prisons and prisoners, at the cost of the tax payers, but it is not the reason there are so many people in jail.

There are so many people in jail because our legal system is political device. Many judges and most DA's in this country are elected. During election years you hear about prosecutions and you hear various other politicians brag about how "tough on crime" they are. These people all want to be elected and one of the best ways to do that is to convince the voters you will put people in jail. So when you then get elected you have to do exactly what you have said you will do or you won't get elected again. This is one of the reasons we have the death penalty. People want to know bad guys are being put in jail, it helps them sleep well at night, and these politicians are simply giving the people what they want.

That there are people making money off of it is just a byproduct of the political system.

Pay your dues bitch and quit moaning!

There are many one issue voters...and I can understand why. I can see how I could be a one issue voter...if it were an issue that I felt strongly about.

Keep believing the deception.

You really believe that there is a group of people who are telling DA's, police and various law enforcement to just arrest and jail people so they can make money? You really believe that we have all the laws we have on the books because this "group" wants to make more money and having more people in jail helps their bank account?

If so why is there such a shortage of jail space? Why are they always letting people slide and not sending them to jail or letting them out early because they don't have anywhere to put them? Why not invest some of this money and build new prisons or expand the existing ones?

this is onwebcam IRL=

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video.../v/aY7Nji-zzhg

You dont have to tell anybody anything if they believe that's the way things are and should be... They are just doing the job they are told to do.


I didn't even look at your link but as long as you have that name you mean nothing in real life. Sort of like him..

So these wealthy people have created a system that includes a bunch of laws that will put people in jail so they can make money off of them and everyone in that system just goes along with it and is not bright enough to see what is happening?

And still, if it is so lucrative why are they not building more prisons and jails? Why turn people loose that could be in jail? Surely the cost of another jail is nothing compared to what they are making off the prisoners and I'm sure they can word everything just right and get the tax payers to pay for it.