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BFT3K 11-20-2009 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569673)
its kind of easy seeming superior on this board. In real life I hang with my equals. Here I mix with rabble with very little concept of the world around them. present company not excepted.:thumbsup
Here is a picture of the "equals" 12dicks hangs with...

http://www.FetishSoup.com/GFY/Stooges.jpg

12clicks 11-20-2009 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16569781)
Because you can't read...from the article,
a one line blurb at the bottom of the page. yeahn ok. so bring your credit card.


what's it like having to be so intellectually dishonest to rationalize others paying for what you want?

12clicks 11-20-2009 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16569821)
Here is a picture of the "equals" 12dicks hangs with...

http://www.FetishSoup.com/GFY/Stooges.jpg
ouch, you got me.
did the guy in the trailer next to you laugh when you showed it to him?

cherrylula 11-20-2009 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16569781)
Because you can't read...from the article,
12clicks basically says anything he wants, the text I posted is clearly written on that page but he will act as if it is not.

Anyone who thinks all doctors accept cash, must have never been to a doctor in their life. Some dont accept cash and ONLY ACCEPT INSURANCE LOL

TheDoc 11-20-2009 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16569696)
I can find endless examples of waste and fraud in Insurance companies too.
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569704)
no you can't.
WellPoint is a U.S. Corporation...

"WellPoint failed to provide beneficiaries with access to needed medications, charged beneficiaries co-payments higher than allowed and improperly disenrolled seniors from health plans, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) said Tuesday...:

"UnitedHealth Group agreed to pay $50 million to settle a New York Attorney General investigation into a scheme by health insurers to defraud consumers by manipulating reimbursement rates, plus another $350 million to resolve class action lawsuits on the same problem."


"Congressional investigators have discovered that large health insurers in every region of the country are relying on faulty databases to underpay millions of valid insurance claims."


"The NY Attorney General, Andrew Cuomo, called it "an industry-wide scheme perpetuated by some of the nation's largest health insurers to deceive and defraud consumers."





I can go on for hours, the search results for 2.2 million pages for one phrase...

boneprone 11-20-2009 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569673)
its kind of easy seeming superior on this board. In real life I hang with my equals. Here I mix with rabble with very little concept of the world around them. present company not excepted.:thumbsup
lol......

Here at GFY 12 clicks is like that guy at the beach you see playing 5 chess games at the same time vs the tourists.

BFT3K 11-20-2009 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569841)
ouch, you got me.
did the guy in the trailer next to you laugh when you showed it to him?
Nope. He was just upset that I was making fun of his dad.

TheDoc 11-20-2009 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569830)
a one line blurb at the bottom of the page. yeahn ok. so bring your credit card.


what's it like having to be so intellectually dishonest to rationalize others paying for what you want?
It only takes 1 line to lay down the truth... you can find more in the millions of results, lots of people ask why they can't get doctor X type to take cash. You simply choose to ignore the facts.


How are you so intellectually slow that you can't understand that everyone pays for all the wonderful crap you have around you and use every day. The roads, the bridges, the clean water and lands, protection, safety....

Hank_Heartland 11-20-2009 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569526)
another with his hand out speaks.

its ok hank, despite what reasonable people believe, you'll get your hand out.
Ron,

Hand out...this is nothing about a hand out. Actually what the article is quoting from were studies in 2002 to help the health insurance industry, hmo's, ppo's and the like to cut cost by cutting down on expenses for testing that they deem unnecessary and you know it...

So, if you have a health care plan then you know the above has been rationing your shit for years with higher premiums and higher deductibles, preferred doctor lists, referrals, insurance riders and other shit, as I have seen with my health plan.

So come up with a better example and get off the hand out bullshit:2 cents:

12clicks 11-20-2009 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16569879)
It only takes 1 line to lay down the truth... you can find more in the millions of results,
it sure does and you sure can:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...6084749AAEwcqv

"""All doctors will accept cash payments up front. (In fact, they probably prefer it, so that they don't have to deal with the hassle of billing and collections!)

You'll have to call around to find a doctor who's self-pay price for services is within your budget.
Source(s):
15 years working for health insurance companies and medical providers""""

12clicks 11-20-2009 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 16569881)
Ron,

Hand out...this is nothing about a hand out. Actually what the article is quoting from were studies in 2002 to help the health insurance industry, hmo's, ppo's and the like to cut cost by cutting down on expenses for testing that they deem unnecessary and you know it...

So, if you have a health care plan then you know the above has been rationing your shit for years with higher premiums and higher deductibles, preferred doctor lists, referrals, insurance riders and other shit, as I have seen with my health plan.

So come up with a better example and get off the hand out bullshit:2 cents:
sorry hank. there's a push from this federally appointed panel to get all of these "recommendations" out now so that the obama plan has a head start on their rationing.
but as I said, those of you begging for this government boondoggle will soon get exactly what you deserve.:thumbsup

Libertine 11-20-2009 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569911)
it sure does and you sure can:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...6084749AAEwcqv

"""All doctors will accept cash payments up front. (In fact, they probably prefer it, so that they don't have to deal with the hassle of billing and collections!)

You'll have to call around to find a doctor who's self-pay price for services is within your budget.
Source(s):
15 years working for health insurance companies and medical providers""""
You know you're grasping at straws when you're citing Yahoo Answers as if it were a credible source :2 cents:

Hank_Heartland 11-20-2009 09:33 AM
My doctor and many others charge $60.00 a visit if you have insurance and $30.00 a visit if you don't now...so what's the difference:mad::mad:

BFT3K 11-20-2009 01:54 PM
Anarchy Now!

_Richard_ 11-20-2009 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16569332)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/he...ef=todayspaper

no more breast exams, no more pap tests until 50 and 40 respectively.
its rationing, pure and simple. all hail obama.

mammograms:
"""It found that one cancer death is prevented for every 1,904 women ages 40 to 49 who are screened for 10 years...."""

uh, there are 23 million women in the US in that age group. lets do some math.
12,000 deaths are prevented by screening that age group (by their numbers).
not only that, but the argument is now being framed that the "less testing" group are "backers of science driven medicine" and that its "the scientific perspective"
you know, those of us who know early detection equates to lives saved still think the earth is flat.

Its truly shocking that our populous has become so sheepish as to be spoon fed this shit and accept it.

"""For decades, the medical establishment, the government and the news media have preached the mantra of early detection, spending untold millions of dollars to spread the word. Now, the hypothesis that screening is vital to health and longevity is being turned on its head, with researchers asserting that mammograms and Pap smears can cause more harm than good for women of certain ages."""

now early screening is a "hypothesis" and we're supposed to believe early testing "can cause more harm than good"

hahahaha, yes. undetected cancer leads to death, what is the "harm" that matches that on the other side?




wake up sheep.
but this has been set up under your current system.. how are you blaming a socialized system that has yet to be implemented?


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