Is that him getting freaky with C-Luv? Damn, hate the game not the playa.

you have a overly broad idea of the term *getting freaky*

My only thing with companies who don't pay -- they got their money. And a business model especially in this industry should be setup to ensure you have the $$ to pay your WMs.

And when revshare WMs don't get paid - that REALLY pisses me off. There is no way to lose money on revshare traffic.

I'm sure I noticed C-Luv in here after one of the shows posting a bunch of pics of her and Pete, I thought they were an item I guess.

guess what, the biggest ammounts we miss are all on revshare sponsors. Makes you wonder huh. Maybe a PPS sponsor needs to have more credit/savings to start up so they are less likely to be short?

bump for cleaning shit out.

um sure there is.
Make 2 sales a day that do not retain.
Hosting, content, staff and advertising will make you loose money

2 non converting trials on revshare would cost you a few bucks max. 2 non converting trials on PPS can cost you 70 bucks.

My feelings have always been that one should open revshare and then go PPS. Yeah, you'll catch some flack as a program that they don't have PPS but soon WMs get over it. And if the content is good, go revshare - always earn more in the long run.

And Roald, that's sad ... especially with your guys' traffic.

I'm solely speaking of WMs. If they don't retain it's not like the WM got $35 from you on revshare, they got % of what you earned.

Now if it doesn't retain then that's something else to look at. Either on your side or how the WM is promoting you and from what traffic source.

50 ewoks celebrating on endor.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Most of my earnings from SatanCash is from recurring members I made when Revenue Cash was running the show. The really shitty thing is that I still have lot's of recurring members from Revenue Cash, now recurring at SatanCash..

You missed my point completely. I should not have even mentioned retention.

This was not a PPS vs Revshare debate lol. That ones obvious

Sorry I was not clear. My point had nothing to do with revshare vs pps.

I am talking about the number of failing programs.
Spending more than they are brining in. It is going to be very common

Just saw PeteKT log on to ICQ. Sent him a bunch of IMs but he just ignored me..

Ahh okay, fair enough. I gotcha. I ran a revshare program with all the bills that you speak of and yeah, if they don't convert that blows and hurts the bottom line.

I do think though that many people who opened programs thought it was just a goldmine with little work. Oh how very wrong they are / were.

And unfortunately when some owners get their first big paycheck, it goes to houses, boats, booze, etc ... not the WMs and not back into the program.

One truly has to keep investing in their own program to keep it alive. My key example to this success is Shap and his investments back into the high quality content he put out.

Lmfao!!

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/v222/827...01811_8165.jpg

Or even there small check in todays market hehe.
Yea that is what I mean. Who would you pay last? If you know your program is going under anyways? The affiliates or your host? hehe

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=942061&page=2

if it needs to be in there that is...

bump ... i never promoted satancash ... joined them long ago tho; dunno, didnt like their fhgs or such ... good that i moved on ... good luck :) but the lack of replies from satancash here speaks its own language already :(

havent even seen him on here lately.

hmmm, sucks to here that, he seems to be going strong with that intellichat deal.

Are you refering to Petes AdultVirtualAgent.com site ? if so i dont think its connected in any way to the guys at intellichat (although I could be wrong ! )

Bump for payment. But the fact he has skipped payment to Crazies for over a year has me doubting it will be ever seen. Hope Pete proves me wrong.

:1orglaugh

Hope this gets resolved.

Interesting, didn't know he was in on that.

Explains a lot...

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

You've already seen it.

Bump for Pete to pay his bills.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Top notch. Stand up guy.

You might have put your foot in your mouth on that one.


:Oh crap

Why its no secret all the details are on the site ? ? and I only commented that I dont think intellichat are part of it ? whats up with that?

I need my password for satancash.com

So you can check how much they aren't going to pay you?

A six month glitch.... :[

Touche Lace! I couldn't agree more. How's the Judge Judy going?

FTW



What's with programs not paying these days. If they are going under they should just swallow their pride and let you know. Sad to see this happen to you mate. I hope he ends up paying you.

bros before payments.

I agree, I never sign up to any NATS programs, only promote ccbill programs they are legit every time and pay every time.

I was going to try and promote SCash also but not now after reading this thread. Thanks for the heads up!.

There's quite a few people in MI on here. Contact one of them for a %