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Young 12-12-2009 09:45 AM
Congratulations!

Note: Dyna Mo is a fucking moron.

dyna mo 12-12-2009 09:48 AM
i not concerned in the slightest with what *young* thinks about *dyna mo* at a message board called go fuck yourself.

if i were, i'd list my businesses, resume, education level, home and condo, vehicles in my sig.

you name calling reveals more about you than me.

xmas13 12-12-2009 12:20 PM
Congratulations but why Cedars?????

Theo 12-12-2009 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16638566)
What happens if you decide you don't want to pay?
they take back the child

Matyko 12-12-2009 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16636518)
Beautiful baby...congratulations! :thumbsup

Also, I feel that the hospital bill is outrageous and disgraceful. :mad:

Anyway, I wish you and your wife all of the joys of parenthood.

ADG
Exactly same thoughts here.

Congratulations, and enjoy every little moment you can. :)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Huggles 12-12-2009 02:56 PM
160k?


what a fucking joke!

broke 12-12-2009 04:01 PM
Congrats - she's beautiful.

It brings me back a few years. Thankfully, we weren't under insured when our twins spent two weeks in the NICU three years ago. Good luck getting the bill reduced.

More importantly enjoy the time with your new daughter.

Hentaikid 12-12-2009 05:23 PM
Congratulations on the baby.

As for the money, common sense dictates the costs can't possibly justify the pricetag, even if the doctor made several million a year in salary and the surgical instruments were made of platinum. It's logical to think that you're being billed for the quality of care and if you weren't paying this amount your baby would've been treated badly but the fact is, what you are being billed for is the litigation costs of all the lawsuits since birth liability is the biggest source of lawsuit damages.

halfpint 12-12-2009 06:20 PM
Congrats on on the new born, your lives have changed for ever and you are gonna love every minute of her (well until they become teenagers anyway:winkwink:)

JayDeeZee 12-12-2009 06:58 PM
I can relate to the feeling. My daughter was in the NICU for 3 days after she was born. You must have been scared.

I can't relate to the horrible bill tough. In Canada we pay our healthcare in the form of taxes.

Matt 26z 12-12-2009 07:33 PM
The $160,000 bill was the insurance bill. They want to see if you've got someone covering you who'll pay it.

I have heard of uninsured people protesting it and getting a rediculous amount of money knocked off the bill. In other words, being given the real bill.

xmas13 12-12-2009 11:52 PM
http://articles.latimes.com/2005/nov...h/he-premies21
Quote:
Survival, at a cost
Prematurity exacts a staggering medical and financial toll. With the number of early births at an all-time high, scientists are struggling to find solutions.
More than 12% of all births occur at or before 37 weeks gestation, or at least three weeks before full gestational age, almost all of them requiring extra, often intensive, medical care.
Hospital costs alone for preemies totaled $18.1 billion in 2003, according to the March of Dimes.
:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

HandballJim 12-13-2009 12:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16638730)
I am currently uninsured.

I tried to apply for a $650 a month policy, but was denied for a variety of reasons, including that I had a pre-existing condition (I have a non-lethal skin condition - Psoriasis, which was fully covered when I was working for a large corporation).

Since I am self-employed (and made over $300,000 last year), I am apparently not worthy of insurance, even though I am totally willing to pay in a year, more than I have ever received in treatment in my entire life.

Another reason I was denied was because I visited a hospital within the last year to ensure that a minor puncture wound to my hand was not infected.

They cleaned my wound in 30 minutes (most of that time spent filling out paperwork and waiting for attention), and declared it not infected, but even though I have never spent a night in a hospital for anything in my life, they declared that they could not insure me, simply due to going in once to ensure that I did not have a hand infection, which I did not.

BS like this has to change... :mad:

As I understand it, a socialized medical system ensures to some extent that costs are contained and everyone is covered (not necessarily for free), rather than arbitrarily being denied coverage (even if you are able/willing to pay for it).

ADG

ADG
You must have connections, have some company or start your own...and put you down as an employee. Then you should be able to get on an HMO. The system is fucked up so you need to learn the system.

I learned the hard way too, my wife who at the time was my girl friend had an operation up in Greenwich, CT expensive hospital....no health insurance....cost $30,000 make a long story short...here mom filed some papers in Japan since she is a citizen of Japan and they covered almost half...I covered the other half. My boss told me next time we can put her on the company plan and I just pay the fees...this way she would not have had to pay anything....maybe a co-pay. Now she is an RN at Columbia Prespertarian so she has great health insurance...I am also going on her plan as a back up.

Chosen 12-13-2009 12:31 AM
Congrats :thumbsup

xmas13 12-13-2009 01:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16640772)
Now she is an RN at Columbia Prespertarian so she has great health insurance...I am also going on her plan as a back up.
Yeah, whatever. Is she busty? :1orglaugh

RE: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=942682

magpan 12-13-2009 02:05 AM
Absolutely awesome, both the new addition to your family and your attitude! Congrats! :)

Hentaikid 12-13-2009 05:18 AM
I'm curious...

What is it you think would've happened in a "socialized medicine" setting?

Also, you seem to be well off enough that the 160k bill is manageable. What do you think happens to people with normal salaries in this situation?

Vexes 12-13-2009 07:44 AM
Negotiate directly with the hospital, explain that you are paying cash thus you want a cash price. The routinely overcharge insurance companies, it is part of the game. Then when you get it negotiated down to a cash price ( I would target 30% of bill) then ask to set up a pay plan.

They may harass you early, but they should come around. if you are uncomfortable negotiating, there are people you can hire as consultants who can help.

Congratulations on baby, glad everyone is doing well.

dyna mo 12-13-2009 08:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 16640755)
excellent article, thanks for posting the link.

a point to note from that-

Quote:
Prematurity is difficult to prevent because the causes are so complex and varied. It can be caused by abnormalities in the uterus or cervix, for example, or by preexisting health problems in the mother, such as diabetes, hypertension or obesity. Blood clotting disorders are increasingly viewed as a major contributor to preterm birth. And as many as 30% of cases may be due to infections such as sexually transmitted diseases, urinary tract infections, even gum disease. Infections and inflammation appear to trigger a cascade of physiological changes resulting in labor.

Some women may carry genes that make them vulnerable to preterm birth, Green says. Lifestyle and societal factors are also to blame, including smoking and drug use during pregnancy, poverty and the lack of prenatal care. According to a recent national survey, 20% of women who have been pregnant said they did not visit their doctors within the first three months of pregnancy.
premature babies are a contributing portion of the overall infant mortality rate whilst perinatal, neonatal, and postneonatal quality of care PROVIDED are not significant contributing factors to infant mortality.

i.e. imr is an indicator of the overall health of a country, not the care provided.

DiF0r 12-13-2009 08:56 AM
Congrats on the baby :)

You three are a cute family


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