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tiger 12-15-2009 12:36 AM

If you own property get an umbrella policy on top of your regular insurance. Tenants and people try to sue landlords for any dumb shit they can come up with. Things you would laugh at but obviously its never a joke. An umbrella policy is actually a really good thing even if you don't have a lot of property but you want some extra protection.

Sorry to hear about that SD but hopefully the law will be on your side.

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16646648)
waiyt wait waoiyt


You have had numerous death threats an dyou sleep with your door unlocked?


Dude/// Skufty cant save all... lock that shit!!




americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

Iron Fist 12-15-2009 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646650)
americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

Man, you live in Winnipeg.... we lock our doors here, I dunno about you, but anyone in the city locks their doors, now if you were to say you were on a farm or whatever, then maybe i'd agree with you, but if your trying to make out like Winnipeg is friendly.. i'll have to disagree.

Besides its almost -30 outside... you seriously keeping your doors open right now? :Oh crap

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 16646663)
Man, you live in Winnipeg.... we lock our doors here, I dunno about you, but anyone in the city locks their doors, now if you were to say you were on a farm or whatever, then maybe i'd agree with you, but if your trying to make out like Winnipeg is friendly.. i'll have to disagree.

Besides its almost -30 outside... you seriously keeping your doors open right now? :Oh crap

anyone comming into my house would be more scared of me than me of them.

i'm 6'3 and over 300lbs

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-15-2009 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DrinkingHARDEST (Post 16646644)
wow the guy entered your house without permission? That is fucking BALLS i tell ya!

Some guard dog Skufty is?!!!

Excuse me!?!

Skufty truly is a wonder Bassett...with balls, I might add:

http://www.hjorleifson.com/skufty/balls.jpg

Skufty would have gone canine ninja on that process servers ass if Sleazy gave him the nod, but not wanting to risk yet another lawsuit, Scott (being ever thrifty), kept the papers to wipe his ass with...

Okay, I see that I maybe embellished my story a little, since Skufty would more likely have gone canine ninja on the process server's ankles, being that they are lower to the ground.

ADG

DaddyHalbucks 12-15-2009 01:29 AM

I hear Saskatoon is worse.

Paul Markham 12-15-2009 01:34 AM

Sorry to hear that SD, just more shit that has to be dealt with.

Waddymelon 12-15-2009 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646650)
americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

We also dont have people walking into our home to serve us lawsuits while we are asleep.

theking 12-15-2009 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16646616)
You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.

You are an attorney...what is incorrect about my posts...if anything?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-15-2009 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16646796)
You are an attorney...what is incorrect about my posts...if anything?

Well, for starters...

theking = pathfinder, pathfinder = dead, therefore, you = dead

ADG

Waddymelon 12-15-2009 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 16646822)
Well, for starters...

theking = pathfinder, pathfinder = dead, therefore, you = dead

ADG

LOL!!

Rest in peace, pathfinder!!

JFK 12-15-2009 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646253)
and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission

Now , that is a violation of your rights if I ever heard one:2 cents:

Raf1 12-15-2009 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 16646478)
I do not know Canada law...but I do think that in the states one being in bankruptcy would have any relevance. If the attorney won a law suit against you it could become collectable based upon future earnings for the next x number of years and then renewed for another x number of years etc. In addition a good attorney will sue anyone and everyone directly connected to an event or indirectly connected to an event to see what sticks to the wall and what doesn't. In example...a farmer was irrigating his crop with aluminum sprinkler pipe. The water sprayed onto a highway...and caused a car to lose control on the wet highway and the couple in the car sustained life long injuries. The farmer was sued...the outlet that sold the pipe to the farmer was sued...the manufacturer of the pipe was sued...the manufacturer of the sprinklers was sued...the county was sued (it was a county highway)...etc. If I remember correctly only the farmer was found to be liable...and of course he had insurance which for the most part covered the award...but not all of it.

that's just crazy. There should be a law against that kind of practice. It just jams up courts with idiotic paper work.

munki 12-15-2009 03:51 AM

Hell of a situation... best of luck wrapping it up quickly and quietly

lagcam 12-15-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646236)
god I LOVE stupid lawyers

i'm in bankruptcy!

first rule in suing someone civilly, there must be a chance of getting something!

it's for a shooting in my bar - before i owned the bar i owned the building and a tenant ran the bar - i inherited the tenant - and they had a shooting.... it was OUTSIDE the bar and on the street....

i evicted the tenant for not paying a month after that happened.

they're suing me cause i owned the building

unreal......

Sounds like a good reason to stop going on about your fantastic new site and how rich it will make you?

When you choose to live your life on forums and put too much information about yourself (true or otherwise) in the public domain, you attract headaches to yourself.

:2 cents:

JD 12-15-2009 04:23 AM

good luck. lmk when you wanna escape to the states

SarahLLO 12-15-2009 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646650)
americans just dont' understand that canadians don't lock our doors when we are home

Yeah, I can't imagine doing that here... the other day, the BF and I were sitting in the living room with our two huge dogs and some drunk guy STILL opened the door (we had forgotten to lock it after taking the dogs out)... he was so smashed he thought it was his house... shit like that happens even if you're home. If we hadn't been RIGHT THERE idk what he would've done... =P

Anyhow, hope things go better for you. I need to send you a lucky charm or something, maybe a gold lucky cat like the one sitting on my desk right now, haha. For some reason even though I've never spoken to you personally, I like you, so I will send ~good thoughts~ your way <3

The Sultan Of Smut 12-15-2009 06:35 AM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...5_image_06.jpg

crockett 12-15-2009 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646253)
and get this - the guy who served me actually walked INTO my house this morning before i answered the door.... i was still asleep

when i think about it - i should have beat the shit out of him.... you do not walk into a stranger's house without permission

WTF dude, lock your damn door.. Sorry to hear on the lawsuit, it sounds like a shitty thing to have to go through, but at least you were already doing a bankruptcy so they can't get anything as it is.

On the plus side, at least you have your health.. Your pic in your avatar looks much better than old pics I've seen posted in the past.

pornguy 12-15-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16646242)
one of the girls that got shot in the shoulder.

i feel sorry for her, but shit, if i'm liable for this anyone who beats their wife in a rented appartment should hold the landlord liable for the wife beater.........

In the US.. get mugged in the walmart parking lot and sue them.. You get paid.

there is even a case that happened in Florida for a Grocery store called Publix.. Girl goes to the atm at 3 in the morning. Store is closed.. Someone supposedly follows her from there to her house about 1 mile away and mugs her in the parking lot of her apartment. She SUES PUBLIX! I think they ended up paying her like 250k.

BlackCrayon 12-15-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 16646248)
I simply cannot believe some of the trash in winnipeg now. the city is a big ghetto now. it is sad because i was born there and still do go back.

So many broke fucks from ontario, quebec, and the maritimes headed out there when things were booming. Leads to a lot of moron/criminal types.

Nikki_Licks 12-15-2009 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 16646616)
You might be... but it will depend. Usually most landlords have insurance that will over any civil liability for torts that happen on the premises.

Turn it over to your insurance company. Pretty simple. And if there is coverage and you are in BK, most attorneys will settle for the policy limits and leave you alone. For most attorneys it is not worth dealing with a defendant in BK. In the US, a BK will stay the proceedings.

How do they determine the length of time you will be in BK....Canada/USA? Is it set in years?

naughty1 12-15-2009 07:32 AM

Not to rain on your day but is this civil trial? If so your bankruptcy wont affect that if they judge against you they will go against future earnings just like they did with OJ. Now for them to collect thats a different story LOL

VikingMan 12-15-2009 07:48 AM

I am pretty sure "process server" ranks below just about every other job other than bouncer in terms of cranial capacity.

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam (Post 16646966)
Sounds like a good reason to stop going on about your fantastic new site and how rich it will make you?

When you choose to live your life on forums and put too much information about yourself (true or otherwise) in the public domain, you attract headaches to yourself.

:2 cents:

doesn't matter how much i make in the future.....bankruptcy makes it like I was dead - they have to deal with the estate

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naughty1 (Post 16647318)
Not to rain on your day but is this civil trial? If so your bankruptcy wont affect that if they judge against you they will go against future earnings just like they did with OJ. Now for them to collect thats a different story LOL

obviously you don't understand bankruptcy......lol

dyna mo 12-15-2009 09:58 AM

what is she suing you for?

MrBottomTooth 12-15-2009 10:05 AM

I hate to tell you this, but you are probably going to get fucked over in this case. I just received this newsletter yesterday. Bad precedent for someone in your position.

www . torkinmanes . com/newsroom/default.asp?load=6

Jury awards dentist's family $3.1-million in bar death case


In November, Barbara MacFarlane obtained a Jury award in excess of $3 million for the widow and sons of a dentist who suffered fatal head injuries when a fight erupted outside a Bar. The case illustrates the responsibility the hospitality industry has in dealing with its customers. The jury apportioned liability 35% to the tavern, 35% to its operator, 15% to its bouncer, and 15% to the victim.

(this was in Ontario)

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16647835)
what is she suing you for?

unspecified damaged to be determined by a judge.....

basically she got conned by a lawyer

judges in canada give out fuck all in cases like this.... the USA if different - in canada you get lost work and a kick in the ass - your lawyer fees will be higher than your judgment and you can only recover lawyer fees based on a fee schedule from like 1973 or something...

plus i'm in bankruptcy so the BEST case scenario is to be included in the estate proceeds which there are a LOT of other people in with HUGE claims.

the net result after lawyer fees out of her pocket will be negative if she wins HANDS DOWN.

it's not worth it here, this is just paying for a lawyer's kids to goto college


I feel sorry for her, but it happened on the street too, not on my company's property.


they're claiming no security - they had like 8-10 guards on that night, i was there that night about an hour before it happened - they all had radios...in her own statement she was standing beside a security guard - one even got shot protecting a client...

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 16647855)
I hate to tell you this, but you are probably going to get fucked over in this case. I just received this newsletter yesterday. Bad precedent for someone in your position.

www . torkinmanes . com/newsroom/default.asp?load=6

Jury awards dentist's family $3.1-million in bar death case


In November, Barbara MacFarlane obtained a Jury award in excess of $3 million for the widow and sons of a dentist who suffered fatal head injuries when a fight erupted outside a Bar. The case illustrates the responsibility the hospitality industry has in dealing with its customers. The jury apportioned liability 35% to the tavern, 35% to its operator, 15% to its bouncer, and 15% to the victim.

(this was in Ontario)

nothing to the landlord though - just the tenant and the manager/operator

i inherited them as a tenant when i bought the bld

i was not involved in their operation at all

MrBottomTooth 12-15-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16647877)
nothing to the landlord though - just the tenant and the manager/operator

i inherited them as a tenant when i bought the bld

i was not involved in their operation at all

I don't know, reading this article it sounds like the owner of the actual building got sued too. Not sure how that will work out in your case with a landlord / tenant relationship.

www . miltoncanadianchampion . com/news/article/288852

The jury found the former owner of the tavern — a numbered company — and then-operator Lea Hellerman were each 35 per cent responsible for David’s death, the bar for not having adequate staff and not ensuring patrons’ safety, and Hellerman for not providing staff with training about safe alcohol service, said Sue’s lawyer, Barbara MacFarlane, of Torkin Manes LLP.

MrMaxwell 12-15-2009 10:23 AM

You just can't handle anything.
You let this jerkoff just stroll in like he owned (whatever place you managed to scheme your way into) and get away with it?

naughty1 12-15-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16647779)
obviously you don't understand bankruptcy......lol

Obviously you dont understand a civil trial then for negligence

dyna mo 12-15-2009 11:53 AM

thx, hope it works out best for you. i was sued in a similar fashion. it was the first drowning in a united states waterpark, 1984ish. i was the head lifeguard of the area, not responsible for watching the area where the drowning took place but i was sued anyways. got drug through court and told i killed the woman, etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16647858)
unspecified damaged to be determined by a judge.....

basically she got conned by a lawyer

judges in canada give out fuck all in cases like this.... the USA if different - in canada you get lost work and a kick in the ass - your lawyer fees will be higher than your judgment and you can only recover lawyer fees based on a fee schedule from like 1973 or something...

plus i'm in bankruptcy so the BEST case scenario is to be included in the estate proceeds which there are a LOT of other people in with HUGE claims.

the net result after lawyer fees out of her pocket will be negative if she wins HANDS DOWN.

it's not worth it here, this is just paying for a lawyer's kids to goto college


I feel sorry for her, but it happened on the street too, not on my company's property.


they're claiming no security - they had like 8-10 guards on that night, i was there that night about an hour before it happened - they all had radios...in her own statement she was standing beside a security guard - one even got shot protecting a client...


Agent 488 12-15-2009 11:55 AM

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...BC_468x568.jpg

CDSmith 12-15-2009 12:22 PM

Is she suing the city too? You know...since it happened out in the street and all. She'd likely win a better judgement going that route, assuming she wins at all. Sounds like her reason for suing is based on negligence, which looks pretty flimsy to me anyway. Some idiot shot at people on the street out front of the bar and that makes the building's owner responsible in some way...how?

Your lawyer should be able to shred her case six ways to next tuesday, hopefully with costs.

If anything the woman should be suing the idiot who shot her.

Agent 488 12-15-2009 12:26 PM

sounds like you had a gang problem at the bar.

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 16648366)
Is she suing the city too? You know...since it happened out in the street and all. She'd likely win a better judgement going that route, assuming she wins at all. Sounds like her reason for suing is based on negligence, which looks pretty flimsy to me anyway. Some idiot shot at people on the street out front of the bar and that makes the building's owner responsible in some way...how?

Your lawyer should be able to shred her case six ways to next tuesday, hopefully with costs.

If anything the woman should be suing the idiot who shot her.

esp when a bouncer BESIDE her also got shot protecting people and using himself as a human sheild

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16648380)
sounds like you had a gang problem at the bar.

the former tentant did....

when i ran it we had them under controll

SleazyDream 12-15-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naughty1 (Post 16648227)
Obviously you dont understand a civil trial then for negligence

yes i do - and they only thing they can claim is my bankrupt estate


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