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kmanrox 01-03-2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16704100)
2 people who don't like us one bit don't think TF carded.

what about the other 6500 views? keep fishin.. your BF is gonna pull you down with him.. i'd advise getting as far from him as you can.. it seems some ppl actually like YOU but i cant find a soul who likes TF.. which is all pretty irrelevant.. your fucked up... he needs to find a new mark... i'm nobody's mark as has been proven.

kmanrox 01-03-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16704117)
better warm up the rv. i suspect you will never see a dime.

i bet you $2400 these scammers will never see a dime.. or a penny...

i would be willing to donate a new box to live in with the stipulate that it carried the RD logo on it along with rights to broadcast their arrest should that day come. :upsidedow

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16704121)
what about the other 6500 views? keep fishin.. your BF is gonna pull you down with him.. i'd advise getting as far from him as you can.. it seems some ppl actually like YOU but i cant find a soul who likes TF.. which is all pretty irrelevant.. your fucked up... he needs to find a new mark... i'm nobody's mark as has been proven.

I think that's the whole prob you don't like TF so you let him send traffic knowing you weren't going to pay a cent cuz it was from him.

Agent 488 01-03-2010 06:44 AM

traffic that looks like it's not even 50% english and whose only traffic sources seem to be comment spam? that traffic is worthless ....

kmanrox 01-03-2010 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16704128)
I think that's the whole prob you don't like TF so you let him send traffic knowing you weren't going to pay a cent cuz it was from him.


angel now you sound as pathetic as him... hehe . ok.. so i singled TF out.. said MAN i'd love his 60 sales so i could not pay him! his is a great money making opportunity for me.. let's GO GO GO!

do u have any idea how many sales i do every day? i wont tell you but let's just say 60 sales spread over 45 days doesnt even make my radar... fortunately for my affiliates, the anti-fraud measures taken by my accounting staff put everyone on the radar...

Barefootsies 01-03-2010 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16704117)
better warm up the rv. i suspect you will never see a dime.


Turboface 01-03-2010 09:40 AM

KMan is getting beat up pretty bad in his thread about me.. and he's going to continue to do so until he pays up.

:1orglaugh

kmanrox 01-03-2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704350)
KMan is getting beat up pretty bad in his thread about me.. and he's going to continue to do so until he pays up.

:1orglaugh

you obviously arent paying attention lol :thumbsup

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 16704341)
Looks like all the traffic was sent during the last month or so, you can't really judge on the "2" rebills in that case.
You should be able to track some of the infos back with your Billing provider and find out WHY membership were cancelled, their customer service peeps always ask for the reason of the cancellation, and you should have access to that.


Now looking at your payment page on http://tour.celebsonly.com/signup/signup.php ( passed the first " create your username" page ) i get to that page:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2hnbe9y.jpg

and if you scroll down a little, you can see the rest of the page:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2af06lz.jpg

Maybe the pre checked cross sells created those charge backs?
Just imaging getting a $1 membership and 2 days later you get a:
39.95 + 39.91 + 39.91 = $119.77
I sure would charge back my membership!

No webmaster would send that amount of traffic for 10 fake sign ups / charge backs :2 cents:

PS: I don't really have a side, i don't know any of you guys, i am just stating the obvious, hope you can work it out.... 60 sign ups and 10 charge backs dont really justify withholding $2400

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16704126)
i bet you $2400 these scammers will never see a dime.. or a penny...

i would be willing to donate a new box to live in with the stipulate that it carried the RD logo on it along with rights to broadcast their arrest should that day come. :upsidedow

Don't have to live in a box, LMFAO.

fris 01-03-2010 12:47 PM

the accoiunt should have been banned for spamming anyway

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16704633)
the accoiunt should have been banned for spamming anyway

You mean the account?

Turboface 01-03-2010 01:04 PM

KMan continues to avoid everyone's demands for proof. Why do you think that is?


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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16703252)
he obviously doesent have any proof or he would of posted it by now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 16699488)
you know the drill. proof.

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Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 16699541)
Post a nats screen shot of the carded members user/password.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16703338)
post proof or take a walk you %$#@%$%$#%ing #$@#$$$#ing $#$@%#

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Originally Posted by Aka_Bluey (Post 16699604)
+1 for pic's... it is or is it, sacrilege to even consider the

possibility... carry on.

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 16699900)
:thumbsup:thumbsup

Pics or it didn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16703088)
we need the paperwork, scan it and post it here. :321GFY

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 16700147)
lets see screenshots

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrocket (Post 16700258)
I think you have made specific charges that should be proven by YOU,

not just referring to some old posts that have nothing to do with YOU or your biz.

Post proof..its that easy, otherwise its purely an accusation it appears you cannot back up.

You might want to do that before this turns into another Dirty D type thread...:2 cents:

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Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 16700261)
lets see some proof

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 16700279)
Post the proof guys. You know how it works here. If you don't, this

thread will probably kick around for a while.

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 16700332)
where is the proooooooooof :upsidedow

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16700771)
He has posted his stats...the ball is in your court. The rule for the

board is...prove it or be banned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Feelgood (Post 16701224)
has kman posted proof yet? you have one hour left kmartman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16701649)
Best post on this page
I agree, show some goddamn proof as program owner you got flipped instead of making bullshit

fights.

SHOW PROOF !!!!

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Originally Posted by boneless (Post 16701677)
kman post screenshots of the female usernames, the ip adresses of those who signed up, and basicly all the proof they were carding you, Or dump the argument, pay them and move on to the next problem.

Basicly, turbo posted the proof they made the signups (stats screenshot), so it would be very very very easy for you to post your part of the proof that he was carding, and according to gfy rules you MUST proof this part or be banned.

as a disclaimer, im not taking sides here, i dont know either of you two, but i do know that if i see something posted like carding signups i defo want to see the proof of it all, so far Kman is at epic fail in proving the fraudulent signups.

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16701708)
I would have loved to see some screen shots from the other side, so this thing can be dealt with on a more faster way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 16701848)
I still haven't seen proof from rehab dollars that turboface was carding until then I'm putting rehab dollars on our black list. Any program can say hey that person is carding and not pay them without proof so until rehab shows proof they are on our black list.

Gary

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Originally Posted by xxxdvdbuy (Post 16703730)
I would say his program is turning to shit now cause of the two threads. I wouldn't worry about getting him banned, if he gets banned he goes away and people forget. If he stays around and these threads stay around, he will have to change his domain name and company name. I know one thing he hasn't posted any proof what so ever of the affiliate scamming his program allegedly, so I would be talking to a lawyer or paying him a visit.

Before this thread goes into triple digits, for him to save his program, he better present some proof or pay the affiliate by Monday. That would be a wise decision.

It's none of my business, but I was scammed by a program at one time myself for sending legit joins and my ass got ripped. It was a NATS program so I voud to never promote another NATS or MP3A program ever again!.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 16704159)
I still haven't seen any proof of turboface carding.

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16704289)
Still no Proof?

Fuck you all then, this is just a classic ghost hunt, and Kman is milking on his friends in this one. Cause if he had non, anyone would have asked him to show proof.

I would stay away from all programs a bitmouth like him runs.

He started to do the DirtyD on us already :
I have more affiliates now, a record month in sales.....

LOL, get a life with your ghost hunt and fuck off, dont come back when you bring some proof of your Scammer Statement!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 16704332)
The fact still remains that you haven't showed us any proof of him scamming RD. You keep saying the same thing over and over again with no proof.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTraffic (Post 16704355)
i get it, so you re not paying him because his charge back rate is up the roof on that one, now how can you be sure it s fraud? i think a lot people asked you to post proof, the fact that they were female joins is THE reason?
REALLY?
How about sign up with the same name, CC, or ip...the gender is a bit weak...

you don't even BUY your content... marinate on that one

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 16701014)
Where is Kmans Proof? Are the CC's stolen??


The people have spoken, yet KMan continues to evade the question that is on everyone's minds.

As I said before, we are not going to see any such proof from KMan, because there is none.

:2 cents:

xxxdvdbuy 01-03-2010 01:14 PM

Just wait he may be manufacturing it. :) :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If he comes up with it in the next day or so, you know it's BS... he had more then enough time to prove the joins were not legit. I think your ship is sunk dude. Better pull out and run home.

Turboface 01-03-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdvdbuy (Post 16704697)
Better pull out and run home.

hehe - He can't run home. He fled the US 7 years ago and has never returned since. He is now holding up in Thailand. From what I have heard, there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.

:Oh crap

DWB 01-03-2010 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704808)
there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.

You've crossed the line. I will be requesting your ban, and having many others request it as well.

Because someone lives in Thailand does not mean they are on the run or a pedophile. Many come here for freedom and a cheaper way of life.

Turboface 01-03-2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16704945)
You've crossed the line now. I will be requesting your ban, and having many others request it as well.

Because someone lives in Thailand does not mean they are on the run or a pedophile. Many come here for freedom and a cheaper way of life.

Oh, and ya, that's why KMan moved there, for freedom and a cheaper life.

:1orglaugh

Didn't you guys see that Dateline NBC episode last year about Thailand?

DWB 01-03-2010 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704960)
Didn't you guys see that Dateline NBC episode last year about Thailand?

That was Cambodia, and what you saw was several years old.

I live in Thailand and take serious offense to what you've said.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704960)
Oh, and ya, that's why KMan moved there, [I]for freedom and a cheaper life.

You have no idea why Kman moved to Thailand, but you calling him (and all of us who live here) a pedophile is reason for a sure banning.

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16704984)
That was Cambodia, and what you saw was several years old.

I live in Thailand and take serious offense to what you've said.




You have no idea why Kman moved to Thailand, but you calling him (and all of us who live here) a pedophile is reason for a sure banning.

He didn't say Kman was pedo. Kman has said we stole peoples CC and that's 100% not true. He had yet to post prof.

Kick Ass Chat 01-03-2010 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704808)
hehe - He can't run home. He fled the US 7 years ago and has never returned since. He is now holding up in Thailand. From what I have heard, there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.

:Oh crap

Now that last comment crossed a very serious line, and you should be banned for life.!!:2 cents:

Agent 488 01-03-2010 04:31 PM

it's spelled "proof" not "prof."

bushwacker 01-03-2010 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704808)
hehe - He can't run home. He fled the US 7 years ago and has never returned since. He is now holding up in Thailand. From what I have heard, there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.

:Oh crap

:Oh crap

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16705096)
it's spelled "proof" not "prof."

You are right, so where is it?

fris 01-03-2010 04:42 PM

no proof needed, spamming, high cb's, enough for to cancel the account and not pay.

Nicky 01-03-2010 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turboface (Post 16704960)
Oh, and ya, that's why KMan moved there, for freedom and a cheaper life.

:1orglaugh

Didn't you guys see that Dateline NBC episode last year about Thailand?

wow, you're a real class act aren't ya :disgust

moeloubani 01-03-2010 04:47 PM

lol two scammers fighting is always fun to watch

one cards by putting in stolen credit cards into websites

and the other cards by tricking the customers themselves into putting the number in for something they never intended on buying

as far as im concerned, a stolen credit card used online doesn't necessarily stop that guy from buying porn on the internet, but what kmanrox is doing definitely will

as far as im concerned kmanrox is a bigger scammer than turboangel or whoever

LexiLexxx 01-03-2010 05:35 PM

I don't think I have ever seen a "scammer" try so hard to get paid..... That would tell me, that he wasn't scamming in the first place.

Turboface, DIDN'T call Kmanrox a pedo or running from the states. He staed what he thinks, without right out saying it. Fine line... keep it clean.

TurboAngel, I really hope these thing's going on in your life or in the past are not true, if so....seek help. Life's to short for you to rely on drugs/alcohol and mess around with shady people, hell if you opened your own cleaning business...one day you could have people working for you. I see your with NatNet, they have an awesome rep. in this business and I would think that they would like to keep it that way. Not working and sitting around the house doing nothing....is BORING!!! It's a new year and time for some changes.

I hope you guys can work this out in a good way.

Agent 488 01-03-2010 05:45 PM

huh? every "scammer" starts a thread and start to cry whenever they get busted and payment is widthheld.

they always tried to get paid. it's the sense of entitlement that sends them down that path in the first place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexiLexxx (Post 16705192)
I don't think I have ever seen a "scammer" try so hard to get paid..... That would tell me, that he wasn't scamming in the first place.

Turboface, DIDN'T call Kmanrox a pedo or running from the states. He staed what he thinks, without right out saying it. Fine line... keep it clean.

TurboAngel, I really hope these thing's going on in your life or in the past are not true, if so....seek help. Life's to short for you to rely on drugs/alcohol and mess around with shady people, hell if you opened your own cleaning business...one day you could have people working for you. I see your with NatNet, they have an awesome rep. in this business and I would think that they would like to keep it that way. Not working and sitting around the house doing nothing....is BORING!!! It's a new year and time for some changes.

I hope you guys can work this out in a good way.


BVF 01-03-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16701089)
As you can see on the other thread. Why do you pretend to have a house burn down when your info in NATS show Canada?

You're not even good at what you do. You card then extort like digital mafia? Put the crack stem down dude.

You know that I love to jump on a cracka like you but I'll throw my :2 cents: in.

I've NEVER talked to turboface but when I was in NC in October 2008 to visit a fan of my popular black amateur porn website, :winkwink: , I talked to turboangel on the phone, who invited me to greensboro to party with some NC A&T black college bitches with her and her husband, Turboface......I still have her number in my phone....

Only reason I didn't go was because my fan was sucking my dick so well up in the hotel that I ended up going to Gastonia to lay up with her and didn't have time to go see her.

So I know for a fact that they're not in Canada....I could find the thread with me and turboangel posting in it to corroborate what I'm saying but fuck all that....

edit....I know you remember Kman when I was talking about drinking wine down there and you said once again that I was trying to be white.....It was that thread.

andrej_NDC 01-03-2010 06:00 PM

Funny is that Turboface is thinking he is actually winning this "battle" and people are on his side. While the only people on his side are either scammers, too or just stupid.

kmanrox 01-03-2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 16705121)
lol two scammers fighting is always fun to watch

one cards by putting in stolen credit cards into websites

and the other cards by tricking the customers themselves into putting the number in for something they never intended on buying

as far as im concerned, a stolen credit card used online doesn't necessarily stop that guy from buying porn on the internet, but what kmanrox is doing definitely will

as far as im concerned kmanrox is a bigger scammer than turboangel or whoever

wow someones pissy that i never hired them to write for MF! hehe

kmanrox 01-03-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16704945)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turboface View Post
there's two main reasons some guy runs from the US to Thailand and never to return: either because they are on the run, or they want to have sex with children.
You've crossed the line. I will be requesting your ban, and having many others request it as well.

Because someone lives in Thailand does not mean they are on the run or a pedophile. Many come here for freedom and a cheaper way of life.

shh that's just one of my banhammer cards for him.. wait till he finds the policehammer at his new FLORIDA address hehe

uh oh, turbo.. they're closing in!

kmanrox 01-03-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxdvdbuy (Post 16704697)
Just wait he may be manufacturing it. :) :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If he comes up with it in the next day or so, you know it's BS... he had more then enough time to prove the joins were not legit. I think your ship is sunk dude. Better pull out and run home.

no more proof will be posted... it's not like anyone of us here dont have 24-7 access to designers to make shit up.. why would i wait a few days to manufacture something :thumbsup:thumbsup if you people wud start putting some thought into your posts, you'd fare alot better heh

moeloubani 01-03-2010 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16705337)
wow someones pissy that i never hired them to write for MF! hehe

lol most people never hired me to write for them and im not mad at those people

not mad at you either really but if you want to go on the defensive and instead of arguing the argument attack me then go for it, just saying in this situation you're just as much of a dirty scammer as the person

if pretending to be legal helps you sleep at night then cool but thats like a guy who is carding adding a line to the very bottom of the page that he emails out to get the numbers that says in small text *by filling out your info you are allowing us to use your card for whatever we want and authorize all purchases made by us

your idea of it being 'ok' is laughable at best and criminal at worst

zurc-net 01-03-2010 07:22 PM

This is interesting....





















































































































I like Turtles

TurboAngel 01-03-2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16705241)
You know that I love to jump on a cracka like you but I'll throw my :2 cents: in.

I've NEVER talked to turboface but when I was in NC in October 2008 to visit a fan of my popular black amateur porn website, :winkwink: , I talked to turboangel on the phone, who invited me to greensboro to party with some NC A&T black college bitches with her and her husband, Turboface......I still have her number in my phone....

Only reason I didn't go was because my fan was sucking my dick so well up in the hotel that I ended up going to Gastonia to lay up with her and didn't have time to go see her.

So I know for a fact that they're not in Canada....I could find the thread with me and turboangel posting in it to corroborate what I'm saying but fuck all that....

edit....I know you remember Kman when I was talking about drinking wine down there and you said once again that I was trying to be white.....It was that thread.


It's a shame you didn't come up, next time?

BVF 01-03-2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 16705485)
It's a shame you didn't come up, next time?

I hope so but I don't know....She has a nice new house and is about to get a fat divorce settlement and all I have to do is show up and fuck her......She keeps me occupied.

Tjeezers 01-03-2010 08:42 PM

Woooowooooo

http://i47.tinypic.com/2af06lz.jpg

Your program is manipulating the buyers, and you have no right of speaking. People like you should leave this industry right away.

Showing us no proof and trying to manipulate the community with your female way of dragging people in the mud? Dude, your trying to ripp off surfers!!

You are NO BETTER then the average scammer.

Nicky 01-03-2010 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16705526)
Woooowooooo

Your program is manipulating the buyers, and you have no right of speaking. People like you should leave this industry right away.

Tell that to EVERY other high payng PPS program out there. This is the way It's been done for 10+ years and It's even worse in mainstream. Atleast these x-sell's are above the submit button and not like many other big programs do It with hidden text and the x-boxes half a page below the submit button etc. Get a clue.

xxxdvdbuy 01-03-2010 10:15 PM

The problem is these NATS programs MP3A or whatever you want to call them, don't auto approve the commission, it sits there till accounting approves it by hitting the button which is not right at all. This allows for manual shaving of sign ups. These programs are not fool proof and never work in the favor of the guy working his ass off to try and make some money that's for sure. If the program auto approved the sign up then no one would be looking for excuses to disapprove the payments. Maybe I'm wrong on this because I don't promote NATS type systems anymore so I don't know how their software works now. My point is, he should have gotten paid for anything over the charge backs, not an account cancellation to where Kman keeps the rebills or any money he didn't actually refund. Whata big scam indeed and not by the affiliate. Not a good way to run a legit program and call yourself honest.

There should be a site out there that rates these affiliate programs, any program caught stealing money from affiliates should be shut down by the hosting company. HAHAHAHAHA

mattz 01-03-2010 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 16705526)
Woooowooooo

http://i47.tinypic.com/2af06lz.jpg

Your program is manipulating the buyers, and you have no right of speaking. People like you should leave this industry right away.

Showing us no proof and trying to manipulate the community with your female way of dragging people in the mud? Dude, your trying to ripp off surfers!!

You are NO BETTER then the average scammer.


..........

kmanrox 01-04-2010 12:32 AM

bump.. dont want this thread to get lost!

angelsofporn 01-04-2010 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 16704945)
You've crossed the line. I will be requesting your ban, and having many others request it as well.

Because someone lives in Thailand does not mean they are on the run or a pedophile. Many come here for freedom and a cheaper way of life.

Well said indeed.

TheDA 01-04-2010 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16705636)
Tell that to EVERY other high payng PPS program out there. This is the way It's been done for 10+ years and It's even worse in mainstream. Atleast these x-sell's are above the submit button and not like many other big programs do It with hidden text and the x-boxes half a page below the submit button etc. Get a clue.

The x-sells are clearly below the submit button. The only thing lower on the page is the copyright statement. :)

TurboAngel 01-04-2010 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16705506)
I hope so but I don't know....She has a nice new house and is about to get a fat divorce settlement and all I have to do is show up and fuck her......She keeps me occupied.

It sounded like you were having fun with her.


:winkwink:

DebsDeep 01-04-2010 05:00 AM

Wow this drama is making it to other boards too!!

iggysick 01-04-2010 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16705636)
Tell that to EVERY other high payng PPS program out there. This is the way It's been done for 10+ years and It's even worse in mainstream. Atleast these x-sell's are above the submit button and not like many other big programs do It with hidden text and the x-boxes half a page below the submit button etc. Get a clue.

Get new glasses and check again where submit button is. :upsidedow

Nicky 01-04-2010 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iggysick (Post 16706185)
Get new glasses and check again where submit button is. :upsidedow

I'm talking about the check boxes ofcourse. I'm not blind.

Tjeezers 01-04-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 16706197)
I'm talking about the check boxes ofcourse. I'm not blind.

Poor attempt to seduce your surfers he?
You have your share in this also, your not 1 hair better then Mister Gutter

kmanrox 01-04-2010 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDA (Post 16706035)
The x-sells are clearly below the submit button. The only thing lower on the page is the copyright statement. :)

the xsells arent even close to below the button.. are you blind?


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