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The Demon 02-04-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16813866)
i don't disagree with any of this. for me, i have to get busy. i feel like i have to work 2x as hard these days to make up for the government's failures and failure to function. i expect nothing from them.

i believe that if most people who are able to work will do this, MAYBE it will work.



oh and it's my understanding that the economic conditions immediately following WWII had the same percentages. jobless, debt to gdp ratio etc.

Immediately following WWII? Maybe a year or two after but Post WWII America enjoyed prosperity unmatched in human history. That was the apex of this country. We were on and off the gold standard, we were the world's largest creditor, our trade surplus was through the roof, etc..

dyna mo 02-04-2010 06:14 PM

for the uninformed:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/busin...182/story.html

The Demon 02-04-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16814175)


QFT... He's really gone crazy with the deficit spending.

dyna mo 02-04-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16814164)
hahahahaha

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 16814174)
Immediately following WWII? Maybe a year or two after but Post WWII America enjoyed prosperity unmatched in human history. That was the apex of this country. We were on and off the gold standard, we were the world's largest creditor, our trade surplus was through the roof, etc..

the debt ratio was comparable through 1950, etc.

either way, the point is, i don't see why we can't recover. it's same during every down cycle, people cannot see out. but we always seem to get out. granted, this one is insane but nevertheless, it's not impossible.

The Demon 02-04-2010 06:19 PM

We can't recover because we aren't a manufacturing economy anymore. We used to have a huge trade surplus precisely because we manufactured more than we imported, and saved more than we spent. We outsource everything now. So you're right, it's very possible but it would take years, if not decades.

Loryn 02-04-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16811218)
can you let me know when you come to the conclusion that congress is so corrupt on both sides of the aisle that it doesnt matter what a democrat or republican president does..

congress spends all its time trying to logjam any decision that could help make things better while behind the scenes they are lining their pockets with backroom deals...

i wish people would wake up and see what is really going on and where the true problem lies.. :2 cents:


BAM!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

Get them the fuck out of our lives...they should not be in our health care, our businesses AT ALL... they are so fucked up on both sides it's unbelievable they can't run themselves let alone us...we are better off without them...they should concentrate on making sure we are safe and let us run our country.

The exceutive branch should not be thinking of what laws would work for the whole country, that should be up to the individual states. Not all states have the same problems so trying to come up with one give all soluation is only going to fuck us more...

Not one human has gained better economic status from a government...let us work for us...

There are other answers to problems beside GOVERNMENT...why does everyone in this society always think the answer is government involvement...open your eyes other answers are all around...government is not one of them. If they backed off, we would do a lot better, the more they are involved the worse our lives are going to become. Bush was too involved didn't help us, Obama is more involved than Bush and we are sinking even faster. You can't deny this...it is all around us....

The Demon 02-04-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn (Post 16814209)
BAM!!! :thumbsup :thumbsup

Get them the fuck out of our lives...they should not be in our health care, our businesses AT ALL... they are so fucked up on both sides it's unbelievable they can't run themselves let alone us...we are better off without them...they should concentrate on making sure we are safe and let us run our country.

The exceutive branch should not be thinking of what laws would work for the whole country, that should be up to the individual states. Not all states have the same problems so trying to come up with one give all soluation is only going to fuck us more...

Not one human has gained better economic status from a government...let us work for us...

There are other answers to problems beside GOVERNMENT...why does everyone in this society always think the answer is government involvement...open your eyes other answers are all around...government is not one of them. If they backed off, we would do a lot better, the more they are involved the worse our lives are going to become. Bush was too involved didn't help us, Obama is more involved than Bush and we are sinking even faster. You can't deny this...it is all around us....

No offense but I would trust a few educated individuals a hell of a lot more than the majority of moronic Americans. What you posted was a bunch of nonsensical, immature ranting. While I'm not advocating government expansion, your "let us run our own country" rant has no basis. We elect our officials. The problem would be with the morons living in this country who elect jackasses, not the jackasses themselves.


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