Nice pivot... you said he was being revisionist when he said that Reagan doubled the national debt... when I prove you wrong you start talking about a totally different subject. Thanks for trying to cover up your idiocracy (I know that isn't a word... it's a reference to your biography) by attempting to belittle me by saying I work in a drive thu, though. It's always amusing.

Bush Sr. was president during the S&L Crisis... that is what he had to do with it. If it happened under Obama you would say it was his fault... so don't start backpedaling now.

Wow, that makes alot of sense. You need to get enlightened and see the big picture, but the older one gets the harder that's going to be. So there's no hope anymore for you, have fun in your simple minded black and white world :thumbsup

Sorry if I don't take you seriously and put you in the category of "people too stupid even for GFY". I back up my sources MOST of the time, if not all the time. Try again.

You also failed to grasp anything 12 clicks has said..

Owned....

Owned x2

go away , little boy.
HE pivoted. I brought it back to original subject.
run along

the older one gets, the less they believe in the boogie man.
how was your day job?

Damn you fucking idiots argue back and forth so pointlessly it's embarrassing. They've got us all pitted against each other as if we are each other's enemies while the real enemies have been controlling our government for decades. Snap the fuck out of it already... how can you really be that fucking blind?

You got your fucking Republican cheerleaders and your Democrat cheerleaders, as if one of those "parties" is going to save our country or something... you fools are so pathetic with your little "teams" that you represent. What happened to simply representing freedom and our country above everything else? Why not join together and oust the corruption from our government, regardless of your stupid little parties that you have been raised to believe in? Was your daddy a Democrat? Was your mommy a Republican? Is that why you will defend any fucking thing that a person from one of these stupid-ass parties says to the death?

For the record again, I use to be a republican, now I'm an independent that can't stand the lying going on in the WH

I loved Ronald Reagan, he didn't bow to the leader of China
I liked the times under Clinton After the GOP took over the house and the senate
I didn't like either Bush's, the second one should have left afghanistan after putting a big hole in the Taliban and should have never attacked Iraq, not our business
We should be using pure intelligence and sending in drones
The democrats have had control since 06 on the promise of change and what happened? the country went to shit and they can't agree on how to rip off the public
The GOP has no leadership and their best bet right now is Ex governor of Alaska that people that live in the city or back east just won't get and the liberal press attacks every little thing she does, yet her numbers keep climbing
I'm just pissed off at whats going on and judging by the numbers that Fox News is generating, most of the country feels the same way.

But to you it boils down to just the parties, well it doesn't, people look that I'm pissed at Obama and think I'm for everything that the GOP is feeding me, yes they have a better idea of what to do to overhaul health-care, like listen to the doctors( Gee That was hard!) and the core value of the GOP is smaller government and lower taxes, are you against that?
But the GOP has got to go back to it's core values to get me to vote that way and the dems just need a plan that makes sense

and you did? Congrats on your strong grasp of gibberish. :thumbsup

Do you typically go around calling 40 year old men little boys? Do you fantasize about touching their peters too? YOUR SICK! :disgust

No use. Very original remark about the day job by the way. Clown :1orglaugh

this is top-secret, hush hush, keep it on the down low-

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....702059817/1299

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secret-war-9834410

Let's go for a Reagan top 10...

1) AIDS is a gay plague
2) Inflation
3) Spent mad money on a Star Wars Defense Plan
4) Sold weapons to Saddam Hussein
5) Sold weapons to Afghan rebels, many who are Taliban and al-Qaeda.
6) Arms for hostages and sold weapons to Iran as well, and used the money to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua
7) El Salvador aid in murdering its people
8) His deregulation created the 1989 savings-and-loan scandal
9) Amnesty for illegals
10) Reaganomics / Trickle down economics

And as a bonus, he joked about starting WW3 and made America live in fear basically the entire time.

So many reasons why I love Reagan... gota give him love for basically creating the radical right base!

I knew about that stuff, I love reading about the new stuff that the military is putting out. When I was on the Submarine in the Navy, I got to play with some very top secret stuff, that was fun!

must of been interesting.

i must say, i can't ever tell where you are coming from. you say we should be using pure intelligence and sending in drones and that is exactly what we are doing.

but you then say you already knew that.

either way, just sayin. not a big deal, at least you are able to keep an adult convo going about subjects that we don't come from the same angle about.

so let me get this straight, you blame Reagan for AIDS? Inflation was down from 12.5% in 1980 when he took over from Carter to 4.4% in 1988 when he left office, you seem to believe that Reagan was the only president that sold arms to other countries? Sorry, you're wrong on that account too.
Yes he gave amnesty to illegal aliens, but in the same bill made it illegal to hire illegal aliens, not really enforced and the Dem's are talking bout doing it again?
I'm happy with what the critics called Reaganomics, I benefited from it, I had a great paying job during the 80's building high rises.

You choice to look at only the negatives of the man that stopped the cold war, there by ending the USSR. The country was better off because of him.

Neither party is working, neither party will save us.
Set aside all of the legislation/rules/epa/bad trade agreements, kick start heavy industry and we can save ourselves.
This idea of being a service oriented economy doesn't work.

It was very interesting

I'm glad that they are finally using more drones, thats what they are for, as long as they are used correctly. But at the same time they are still sending troops and putting them in harms way in a country that only posses a threat as a place for terriost to train. They don't fight like anything we can defend against, not completely and still hold our freedoms in tack. SO we need to get rid of the political correctness and change the rules of war and fight them where it hurts, only way we can stop this shit

well, from what i know on the subject, the enemy has moved into major population zones, making the drone war most difficult now.

we've been drone bombing 2+ years, top cia analyst says the drone war is no longer effective and wasn't all that effective to begin with.

Congrats...in a thread of ridiculous posts.....this one wins!

Exactly my sentiments, although the only difference is I've yet to call myself an independent.

You're attempting to type to someone with the IQ of dry paint.

qft......

that makes it hard

Great... he won a war about nothing that he started, that is damn sure something to be proud of.

I guess the increases in gas and food during his entire time in office, repeated by families all over the country that lived during that time, really is a conspiracy against Reagan.

Once you give amnesty, they aren't illegal aliens, that's the really cool thing about amnesty. He makes all the illegals legal, so we have no illegals, then says hey you can't hire illegals... that sounds perfectly sane.

And "AIDS is a gay plague" that's a quote, or very close to it. He was all anti aids, ignored the issue, basically killed a lot of Americans because he was a brainwashed Christian.

But... I still love the guy, Christian or not.



I'm just exposing what was posted on a couple different fact websites...they should be ashamed for publishing this and broadcasting about it on PBS.

ROFLROFRLF now TheDoc famously lives up to his reputation and makes up shit. According to him, Reagan started the Cold War.

I guess you don't prove anything you post.

Please continue your bullshit, this is hilarious.





None of which you can prove!

he didn't start the cold war, it had been going on for a while, they had these big things in the water called ICBM's that scared the hell out of people
Price of food and gas went down during his presidency, I don't know where you get your numbers, but they are wrong, and people were paying less taxes
The amnesty thing didn't work, funny how they are talking about trying it again
And I don't know how old you were, but when AIDS first came out, everyone thought is was a GAY thing because is was only gay people that were reportedly getting it and at first it scared the hell out of people. I wish I had stock in Trojan

I'm aware that the cold war was about communism - way before Reagan, but the way Reagan is talked about with the cold war and him ending it, like he actually was part of a war or something.... like he brought the country down.

It can only be laughed at...

Gas price wise, I don't really count the on-going massive drop coming into his presidency on the cost of gas, his doing.. but the increase is a different story - and it did go up.

He did lower taxes for the rich, and increased taxes for everyone else. Which was a good thing it helped the lower classes invest more, it just would have been nice if the rich did it too rather than been given the keys to moving off shore.

That and more... ended up driving up the cost of interest rates, homes, making it damn impossible to start a business.. all of which of course really means the lower classes made far less money, cost of living was higher, taxes increased in areas never before, he increased our national debt more than any president in history.

Amnesty is stupid... presidents should be skinned alive for it.

Oh I remember AIDS, I also know presidents shouldn't take bad information and repeat it to the public. It's what the last president did when he started an illegal war, but I guess that does relate to Reagan after all.

The man has a hell of a record... it gives Obama a real goal to shoot for.

your idiocy knows no bounds.

when they have the intelligence of a little boy, yes.
I didn't quote your fantasy about little boys to save you the embarrassment you obviously lack the self awareness to comprehend.

Wow Obama is turning into an old white dude:

http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/p...2/52193207.jpg

This job is sucking the soul out of him

I don't know how many people tell him this daily.

I don't know about your last statement....but the rest of it is dead on....

I know you guys hate it when someone points out the bad about your favorite president.. but it isn't really a secret though that he was a bad president. Only one group of people think other wise, which is the radical right base that he help create, and of course you're going to twist the view to fit your personal feelings.

It's you idiots putting him up on platform pretending that he was something other than another shit president, only the right align with this ideas and most can't even get what he actually did correct.

I'm shocked that you guys even attempt to align with him to be honest, it truly shows how much of a sheep you are, just following along with the group.... feel happy knowing that you simply agree with others.

lol, that would be fun. Well at least for the first few hours :upsidedow

I did live through it. I did see property values plummit when he did his 86 tax reform. I did buy shit for pennies on the dollar at the RTC auctions. You could probably read once in a while and learn something.

Reagan's shame - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics

The policies were derided by some as "Trickle-down economics,"[18] due to the significant cuts in the upper tax brackets. There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[19] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[19] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[20] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[21] and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[22] Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.[21]

The dumbest person on a porn forum calling other people sheep while unable to back up any of his bullshit. Oh the irony.