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Sid70 03-07-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16927023)
sure. i broke my ankle hiking in the summer of '04. i was traveling back and forth between Vancouver to Montreal every other week for business. well, after the fracture, that triggered a pulmonary embolism, and i almost died. i was in Montreal at the time, and had to spend an entire month in the hospital. then after that, i was in a medical clinic once a week in Whistler for half a year for blood tests, and physio therapy. cost = zero. i can't imagine how much that would have cost in the states.

good example, thanks, man.

SuzzyQ 03-07-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 16926891)
Obviously you are wrong. All the cold comes down from Rooskie !

Canada gets the cold from the Rooskies, we get the cold from Canada.

Sid70 03-07-2010 03:30 PM

love the answers, pls, anyone, see my list of questions above.

Quagmire 03-07-2010 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16927023)
sure. i broke my ankle hiking in the summer of '04. i was traveling back and forth between Vancouver to Montreal every other week for business. well, after the fracture, that triggered a pulmonary embolism, and i almost died. i was in Montreal at the time, and had to spend an entire month in the hospital. then after that, i was in a medical clinic once a week in Whistler for half a year for blood tests, and physio therapy. cost = zero. i can't imagine how much that would have cost in the states.

The cost still would have been zero, because once you saw the bill for spending a month in the hospital you'd have died of a heart attack.

buddyjuf 03-07-2010 09:37 PM

Cons (of living in Montreal)
- I think Quebec has the highest personal income taxes in North America
- Weather is fucking shit in both summer and winter
- Roads are absolutely disgusting, forget about a sports car
- French canadians are terrible to live with

Pros
- Amazing nightlife
- Hottest girls aside from Las Vegas
- Non stop festivals, celebrations, social events

Elli 03-07-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 16927203)
Do Canadians pay anything extra ( except taxes ) for public schools ( study books, are they free also?)? How much is paying day care?

We have a public school system. You can also opt for private schools, which are usually Catholic or other religion-run. The schools are shifting more and more cost to the parents. Kids used to be sent home with a list for about $50 worth of books and pencils to show up with. Now they recommend the kids have laptops n shit. But school is still free. You can apply for subsidies if you're of low income levels.

Actual Mike 03-07-2010 10:52 PM

Pros: THIS...

54-40
Age of Electric
Alanah Myles
Alanis Morissette
Alexisonfire
Amanda Marshall
April Wine
Arcade Fire
Ashley MacIsaac
Avril Lavigne
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The Band
Barenaked Ladies
Barstool Prophets
Bif Naked
Big Sugar
Big Wreck
Billy Talent
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Blue Rodeo
Bowser and Blue
The Box
Bran Van 3000
Bruce Cockburn
Bryan Adams
Bush
Chantal Kreviazuk
Chilliwack
Colin James
Corky and the Juice Pigs
Cowboy Junkies
Crash Test Dummies
Dayglo Abortions
Dead Brain Cells
Default
Delerium
Doug and the Slugs
Dream Warriors
Econoline Crush
Figgy Duff
Glass Tiger
Great Big Sea
GrimSkunk
The Groove Kings
Groovy Aardvark
The Guess Who
Harem Scarem
Harlequin
Hawksley Workman
Headpins
The Headstones
Hedley
Helix
Holly Cole Trio
I Mother Earth
The Irish Rovers
K.D.Lang
Jann Arden
Jeff Healey Band
Joni Mitchell
Junkhouse
Kashtin
The Killjoys
Leahy
Len
Leonard Cohen
Lighthouse
Limblifter
Loreena McKennit
Loverboy
Maestro Fresh Wes
The Mahones
Matthew Good Band
Me Mom & Morgentaler
Men Without Hats
Michael Buble
The Moffatts
Moist
Moxy Früvous
Musical Box
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Nelly Furtado
Nickleback
Northern Pikes
Offenbach
Our Lady Peace
Paul Anka
Philosopher Kings
Platinum Blonde
Prairie Oyster
Prism
The Rankin Family
Red Rider
Rheostatics
Rufus Wainright
Rush
Sam Roberts
Sarah MacLachlan
Shania Twain
Sharon, Lois & Bram
Simple Plan
Skinny Puppy
Skydiggers
Slaughter
Sloan
Spirit of the West
Steppenwolf
Swollen Members
The Tea Party
Theory of a Deadman
Tom Cochrane
Three Days Grace
The Tragically Hip
Treble Charger
Triumph
Voivod
The Watchmen

will76 03-07-2010 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 16920497)
Yo, basically i can imagine pros but what about cons? Anyhoo, feel free to post your lists. Thanks.

What is the income tax rates in Canada, and Sales tax ?

the Shemp 03-07-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16928314)
What is the income tax rates in Canada, and Sales tax ?


income tax rates are here:
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

will76 03-07-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 16928336)

So if I read that correct, over 126K you are paying between 40%-50% between federal and provincial taxes? (depending on the provincial tax rates).

For the same amount of money made in the US ($82,251 – $171,550) you are in a 28% Federal tax bracket and you will also pay from 0% - 10% in State taxes, depending on the state. So in the US you would be paying 28% - 38% in taxes depending on which state you live in.

So if I live in Florida and I make 150K, I pay 28% in taxes. If I lived in Manitoba with Sleazy I would be paying 46.40% in taxes.

Florida: $42,000 taxes
Manitoba: $69,600 taxes

For an extra $27,600 I think I would rather pay for my own health care which would be at most a couple thousand dollars a year.

What about sales taxes on average. Here in the US its about 9% .

the Shemp 03-08-2010 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16928355)
So if I read that correct, over 126K you are paying between 40%-50% between federal and provincial taxes? (depending on the provincial tax rates).

For the same amount of money made in the US ($82,251 ? $171,550) you are in a 28% Federal tax bracket and you will also pay from 0% - 10% in State taxes, depending on the state. So in the US you would be paying 28% - 38% in taxes depending on which state you live in.

So if I live in Florida and I make 150K, I pay 28% in taxes. If I lived in Manitoba with Sleazy I would be paying 46.40% in taxes.

Florida: $42,000 taxes
Manitoba: $69,600 taxes

For an extra $27,600 I think I would rather pay for my own health care which would be at most a couple thousand dollars a year.

What about sales taxes on average. Here in the US its about 9% .

check the page again, thats not the way it works...

rollinthunder 03-08-2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 16923425)
4 golf courses in Whistler, and a shitload of bars/lounges for a town of 10K. anyway, my point is... i'm a drinker too!

I will have to check it out some day. Still not a big fan of fat girls in hoodies who think they are hot. Seems to be my experience with Canadian bars. However, Whistler is probably different, being a tourist destination.

rollinthunder 03-08-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdjuf (Post 16928216)
Cons (of living in Montreal)
- I think Quebec has the highest personal income taxes in North America
- Weather is fucking shit in both summer and winter
- Roads are absolutely disgusting, forget about a sports car
- French canadians are terrible to live with

Pros
- Amazing nightlife
- Hottest girls aside from Las Vegas
- Non stop festivals, celebrations, social events

The nightlife was good in Montreal 5 years ago. The only place worth going to these days is Hilltop. I hate french people.

Nickatilynx 03-08-2010 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike (Post 16928313)
Pros: THIS...

54-40
Age of Electric
Alanah Myles
Alanis Morissette
Alexisonfire
Amanda Marshall
April Wine
Arcade Fire
Ashley MacIsaac
Avril Lavigne
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The Band
Barenaked Ladies
Barstool Prophets
Bif Naked
Big Sugar
Big Wreck
Billy Talent
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Blue Rodeo
Bowser and Blue
The Box
Bran Van 3000
Bruce Cockburn
Bryan Adams
Bush
Chantal Kreviazuk
Chilliwack
Colin James
Corky and the Juice Pigs
Cowboy Junkies
Crash Test Dummies
Dayglo Abortions
Dead Brain Cells
Default
Delerium
Doug and the Slugs
Dream Warriors
Econoline Crush
Figgy Duff
Glass Tiger
Great Big Sea
GrimSkunk
The Groove Kings
Groovy Aardvark
The Guess Who
Harem Scarem
Harlequin
Hawksley Workman
Headpins
The Headstones
Hedley
Helix
Holly Cole Trio
I Mother Earth
The Irish Rovers
K.D.Lang
Jann Arden
Jeff Healey Band
Joni Mitchell
Junkhouse
Kashtin
The Killjoys
Leahy
Len
Leonard Cohen
Lighthouse
Limblifter
Loreena McKennit
Loverboy
Maestro Fresh Wes
The Mahones
Matthew Good Band
Me Mom & Morgentaler
Men Without Hats
Michael Buble
The Moffatts
Moist
Moxy Früvous
Musical Box
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Nelly Furtado
Nickleback
Northern Pikes
Offenbach
Our Lady Peace
Paul Anka
Philosopher Kings
Platinum Blonde
Prairie Oyster
Prism
The Rankin Family
Red Rider
Rheostatics
Rufus Wainright
Rush
Sam Roberts
Sarah MacLachlan
Shania Twain
Sharon, Lois & Bram
Simple Plan
Skinny Puppy
Skydiggers
Slaughter
Sloan
Spirit of the West
Steppenwolf
Swollen Members
The Tea Party
Theory of a Deadman
Tom Cochrane
Three Days Grace
The Tragically Hip
Treble Charger
Triumph
Voivod
The Watchmen


And Against:

Celine Dion











;)

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-08-2010 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bman (Post 16926506)
\Go try and get BCHydro or a phone line or a cable line on a reservation see what it costs... I use to work in the telco industry and a common quote was 20k to 30k to install a line on a reservation.

Has little to do with it being a reservation. Run a new phone/electric/gas line to a new farmyard that's a ways away from existing lines and you'll get the exact same quotes.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-08-2010 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike (Post 16928313)
Pros: THIS...

54-40
Age of Electric
Alanah Myles
Alanis Morissette
Alexisonfire
Amanda Marshall
April Wine
Arcade Fire
Ashley MacIsaac
Avril Lavigne
Bachman-Turner Overdrive
The Band
Barenaked Ladies
Barstool Prophets
Bif Naked
Big Sugar
Big Wreck
Billy Talent
Blood, Sweat and Tears
Blue Rodeo
Bowser and Blue
The Box
Bran Van 3000
Bruce Cockburn
Bryan Adams
Bush
Chantal Kreviazuk
Chilliwack
Colin James
Corky and the Juice Pigs
Cowboy Junkies
Crash Test Dummies
Dayglo Abortions
Dead Brain Cells
Default
Delerium
Doug and the Slugs
Dream Warriors
Econoline Crush
Figgy Duff
Glass Tiger
Great Big Sea
GrimSkunk
The Groove Kings
Groovy Aardvark
The Guess Who
Harem Scarem
Harlequin
Hawksley Workman
Headpins
The Headstones
Hedley
Helix
Holly Cole Trio
I Mother Earth
The Irish Rovers
K.D.Lang
Jann Arden
Jeff Healey Band
Joni Mitchell
Junkhouse
Kashtin
The Killjoys
Leahy
Len
Leonard Cohen
Lighthouse
Limblifter
Loreena McKennit
Loverboy
Maestro Fresh Wes
The Mahones
Matthew Good Band
Me Mom & Morgentaler
Men Without Hats
Michael Buble
The Moffatts
Moist
Moxy Früvous
Musical Box
Neil Young & Crazy Horse
Nelly Furtado
Nickleback
Northern Pikes
Offenbach
Our Lady Peace
Paul Anka
Philosopher Kings
Platinum Blonde
Prairie Oyster
Prism
The Rankin Family
Red Rider
Rheostatics
Rufus Wainright
Rush
Sam Roberts
Sarah MacLachlan
Shania Twain
Sharon, Lois & Bram
Simple Plan
Skinny Puppy
Skydiggers
Slaughter
Sloan
Spirit of the West
Steppenwolf
Swollen Members
The Tea Party
Theory of a Deadman
Tom Cochrane
Three Days Grace
The Tragically Hip
Treble Charger
Triumph
Voivod
The Watchmen

Ya sorry, but all we got going for us is Rush :1orglaugh

Actual Mike 03-08-2010 12:29 PM

Seriously dude? There's no way you're Canadian if you don't like The Hip

BlackCrayon 03-08-2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike (Post 16929737)
Seriously dude? There's no way you're Canadian if you don't like The Hip

i get so sick of people saying that..the hip is pretty generic and boring.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-08-2010 01:04 PM

The Hip suck balls. I'd kick Gord Downie in his faggot ass if I saw him walking down the street...

raymor 03-08-2010 01:13 PM

Canada as compared to where? The US? Compared to the US, it's run by a bunch
of "left wing liberal democrats", which is either a pro or con, depending on what you like.
You get government run healthcare and all the other nanny state stuff you may love (or
hate). You no longer have a bunch evil conservative businessmen telling you the
country is founded on personal responsibility, self sufficiency, or personal freedom.
Are those pros or cons? I don't know, I guess it depends on you. Personally, I'd rather
pay $35 to see my doctor tomorrow rather than wait a month and pay $168 in taxes to
see the doctor "for free". But if you like the ideas put forth by Obabma, Pelosi, and
the like, I bet you'd LOVE Canada, from what my Canadian friends have told me. For
example, Canada does about twice as much "helping the poor" aka "taxing the people
who work" than the US does. That is to say, the term "welfare state" applies to
Canada about twice as much as it applies to the US. I'm actually quite surprised that
more of the people trying to turn the US into more of a welfare state, create a
Canadian style health system, etc. don't just go to Canada, where they already have
exactly what the liberals are trying to create. it seems like they'd love it there.

I understand it can be a bit tough to immigrate to Canada. It seems they want people who "will make a significant contribution to the cultural or athletic life of Canada", and
certain skilled workers. I wonder if maybe a trade could be arranged. The US will
take 200,000 of Canada's culturally deficient people who listen to crappy music while
working, if Canada will will take 200,000 of our poets, folk singers, and other culturally
wonderful people who will bring their own cans for you to put dollars in. We'll throw in a
few athletes too - we have plenty to spare. What do the Canadians on the board
think, could we work something out? Maybe start with my brother, a poet and
photographer who will make those cultural contributions you're looking for, in exchange
for hat damn capitalist Brad Gosse, who is messing up your country so bad by going
around making money and spending it, creating those damn jobs and getting people
off welfare. I'm sure you'd love to get rid of him, and we don't really need my brother
that much - we have enough drunk poets down here.

Bryan G 03-08-2010 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike (Post 16929737)
Seriously dude? There's no way you're Canadian if you don't like The Hip

Please.... the hip are complete shit

Sid70 03-08-2010 02:12 PM

The whole Canadian immigration could sound overrated for people living in developed countries of EU. More, almost any EU based person don't need a visa to go to USA or Canada to visit, and need to make much less efforts to stay there longer then 90 days on opening a business purpose.

Comparing to that, people outside EU they need visas everywhere and that's why immigration - taking your gig to another level.

Say, here we pay $20-$50 to visit a doctor too. Free medicine can be used for very simple things but you'd have your day ruined after waiting and
seeing a doctor who never even say hi to you. Medicine, we pay for it, and we pay same EU prices because mostly it's imported. Bigger problem is if there is anyting serious that involves hospitals and procedures, that's hard to get in time and on a decent level for people who can't pay it.

Big problem is locally people need doctors sooner because of unstable government stealing their money and health.

Sid70 03-08-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Bryan (Post 16929864)
Please.... the hip are complete shit

I just went to listen the hip and it certainly tells me where Jon Lajoie took his ideas from :)

Actual Mike 03-08-2010 02:43 PM

New Orleans is Sinking...haters :P

2MuchMark 03-08-2010 02:54 PM

Pros:
- Low Crime
- Clean Cities
- Lots of Nature. Clean Lakes.
- Girls are cute.
- Schools are good.

Cons:
- Taxes are insane
- Cost of housing is too high
- Fucking Language Police are Neo-Nazi bastards
- In Quebec, if you don't speak French, you're a second class citizen.
- Too Cold, too long.
- (Montreal: Potholes everywhere!)
- (Montreal: People are rude, rude, rude)
- (Quebec: Taxes! Here, you pay Tax ON Tax.
- Cell phone service: Very expensive when compared to the US.
- Cost of Gas : $1.10 PER LITRE, or about $4.15 per Gallon

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-08-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WirecardMike (Post 16930185)
New Orleans is Sinking...haters :P

One good song does not make you a great band, lol. :1orglaugh

Rochard 03-08-2010 03:24 PM

Con: It's cold there.
Pro: It's better than France.


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