Its sad its still an issue in the 21st century, but looking around at the state of societies in general I'm not fucking surprised. Racism, sexism etc still around and these are the same things which keep coming back no matter how "technologically advanced" humans become.

Why gays would want to get married in the "eyes of god" i have no idea, but the idea of allowing it shouldn't even be an arguement.

race card now its a race card when u ask a question wow

You are the one that brought it up, all I said were blacks, and women and you said it was race when in fact it was about hate.. Don't bust my nuts dude, I don't have anything against you.

i just dont see why racism spills into a gay issue

calm down playa

This is a specious argument. Additionally, if you really believe this and are in favor of gay marriage you'd also be a hypocrite since what you're advocating is an abridgment of the right to one's opinion.

The purpose of monogamous marriage is to clearly codify the transference of property, assess taxes, and ensure the stability of a population. Reproduction, families and the passing down of traditions occur without marriage just as easily as they do with marriage. There are plenty of couples who aren't legally married and have happy families just as there are married couples without children.

im getting out of here my last post in here free tibet!!

I don't care, if they want then I don't see a problem ...but better they don't adopt any children.

You chose to be straight? Since you think it's a choice, I hope you sucked some dick to make sure you made the right choice.

I sure don't remember choosing to be gay and I've known since about the age of six. It wasn't sexual then, but I knew that when boys where talking about grade school girlfriends, I liked the idea of boyfriends.

Gay people serve a purpose in procreation. There is no shortage of unwanted and abused children for us to adopt.

You act like every gay man is a sex predator when an EXTREMELY LARGE percentage of pedophiles that are arrested are heterosexual and oftentimes choose victims of the opposite sex.

You can't blame that on gay people simply getting away with it since society has already conditioned parents to watch their children when they are around gay people.

Thanks! I'm actually just outside of DC, where it's now legal. Our attorney general (in Maryland), at the request of the governor, researched whether our state would recognize legal gay marriages performed in other jurisdictions the same way it would recognize straight marriages. His opinion directed state agencies to recognize such unions.

I was the same way as you until a few months ago. I wanted the benefits and didn't care what it was called. Then, as the Prop 8 trial went on and I saw the bogus excuses and misinformation the defendants were using, I decided that I wanted nothing except marriage. The trial has shown that it's not about religion but is only about hate. I never understood why gay activists wouldn't settle for anything else until I started following the trial. My theory was to take the path of least resistance and get domestic partnerships but I now see why the rights groups refused to accept that. It took paying extra-close attention to the trial to open my own eyes.

I used to think, way back in the 90's when i got into this biz, that from all businesses I could work in, the adult one would have the most liberal attitude towards homosexuals. Man was I wrong!

Not trying to mix the two together. Racism is a far bigger issue.

But its in the general sense of not really evolving the way we should be. I cringe when i think about science fiction i was reading 30 years ago and thinking "man we are heading into some seriously great times." Problem was, the writers thought that by 2010 we'd have colonies on mars and have travelled beyond the solar system...but all that is shit if we can't evolve.

The gay marriage controversy is just another one of those "for fuck sake just make it legal and stop listening to those right wing fanatics."

> You chose to be straight? Since you think it's a choice, I hope you sucked some dick to make sure you made the right choice.

no i didn't chose to be that or another. in my point of view homosexual relationships are unnatural. I cannot make my self see gay couple as a family, its more like Salvador Dali art - very surreal image. path of which has no future generations for these people. I'm not sure about parenting obviously because of my outlook on the whole thing and I guess until i see one happy gay/lesbian family with their happy kids. if kids grow happy and healthy physically and mentally in good conditions - that is all that matters.

I hate it when people say the purpose of marriage is for reproduction, does that mean people shouldn't get married if they aren't planning to have children?

am i in favour for it? not really...im not gay

do i think they deserve the right to marry? of course

everyone deserves to be jut as miserable as everyone else...lol

guffaw

seriously though...everyone should have equal rights

Seriously! And does it mean that people can't have children if they aren't going to get married? Clearly no.

I am fully in support of gay marriage AND in gays adopting children. We as a society, we seem to have little to no problems with a straight person having kids even if they're abusive, addicted to drugs, have a freaking liter of them that they can't support without government assistance, or were convicted of multiple and possibly horrendous crimes. Yet people are all up in arms about perfectly mentally stable people adopting just because of their sexuality. It's ridiculous.

And by the way for everyone stating that "being gay is a choice" it might do ya some good to read this study- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061601038.html

Just a few snidbits:

Funny how people can "choose" to change the physical aspects of their brains. :1orglaugh Wish I could choose my physical charactoristics :2 cents:

It actually has gotten a lot better then it was when I first started. Still has a way to grow, but I have faith.

I agree. Still the best argument for gay marriage is the incredibly high promiscuity rate and the high incidence of AIDS in the gay community. No community has a greater need for stability.

Tired of the gay issue.
Tired of the race issue.
move on.

I couldn't give two shits who gets married to who. If you want to marry a goat go for it and enjoy you life.

No!!!!!!

straight porn is extreemly homophobic here in the valley

Unnatural would be me trying to live with a girl and convincing her that I was in love with her emotionally and physically. It seems unnatural to you because you are not exposed to it. Go live in a gayborhood as a straight person and after a few months you won't even notice two people of the same sex holding hands.

I'll actually give you a pass because you're not so much as saying its immoral, just that you haven't had much exposure.

There are plenty of ways for gay people to have children these days. One way would be two males having their sperm delivered to a surrogate and one "sticks." Each could then give their sperm to each of the females in a lesbian couple and they can raise that kid as their own. What typically happens in those situations is you end up with four loving parents and have two live-in ones ... just like a big ol' happy step family that still gets along. Of course these days you can do all of that without actually having sex, but before that technology was around one could always take one for the team.

Then, of course, there is adoption.

My partner and I of 2 1/2 years haven't decided which route we want to go. We want kids, but are still 5 to 10 years away from that. Having our own kids would be great but we also feel like it would be cheating all of the already born kids that so desperately need a good home.

Surprising how far you were stuck up pathfinders ass. Oh wait, you're pathfinder ... you were stuck up your own ass.

Do either of the issues directly relate to you?
If it were over the issue of free speech, would you be saying the same thing?

Sure,who am I to judge if 2 people love each other and want marriage

It's actually quite ironic considering the huge emphasis put on girl-on-girl and anal sex.

The thread was asking if I was in favor of gay marriage, not free speech.
I am indifferent to the gay marriage issue but I doubt you will be able to get most of America to swallow that pill. Good luck with that.

Homos? How old are you and what era are you from? If you have such a problem with gays and marriage, then why are you in the porn industry?

Someone on an earlier post about a Southern school canceling prom instead of allowing lesbians to go. That person started talking about old fashion values though they work in the porn industry and had a fetish ad in their signature.

"Sacred and secular ideas engage identical areas."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...f-in-the-brain

Abolish marriage. Marriage is superstition.

http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist...geandlove.html

Yeah, I'm in favor of gay marriage, but I don't like how gay parents raise their kids to be gay. That just doesn't feel right. Of course all gay parents will say they don't raise their kids to be gay, but they really do.

Doesn't bother me, not one bit.

Do straight people raise their children to be straight? The gay parents I know say the last thing they want is their children to be gay because they know what they'll go through and the hardships society will throw at them.

What about plural marriage, between me and a bunch of smoking hot bisexual lipstick lesbians?! Oh, and they have to be rich and want to support me! :thumbsup

There are plenty of ways for gay people to have biological children, you fucking retard.

What rights that others have are you lacking exactly?

They don't want to get married in the eyes of God. They want their marriages to be recognized by their country so their partners and children can have the same protections other married couples are afforded.

Couldn't care less if gay or hetero get married - why would anyone get uptight about that? Who gives a shit, it's not even an issue.