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Dcat 04-07-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17015136)
Straight from the school itself:



http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media

Harvard Law Review? New York Times from 20 years ago
First Black Elected to Head Harvard's Law Review
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us...l?pagewanted=1


Hmm, seems you didn't read the article..

5. The University of Chicago released a statement in March, 2008 saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) "served as a professor" in the law school, but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed in 2008.


also..

According to Doug Ross:

I spent some time with the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law a few months back, and he did not have many nice things to say about "Barry." Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn't even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn't have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct.

Obama is a CIA asset. I wonder who made the call to the Board of Trustees? Could it have been the CIA?

cykoe6 04-07-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17012880)
I hate Obama just as much as any rational person does. But seriously, still bitching about his birth? Obama's birth place should be the least of Americans' concerns at this point. Who cares where someone is from if that someone is busy fucking up your economy?

Agreed. :2 cents:

DAMNMAN 04-07-2010 08:49 PM

OK, first of all this guys in the US military and has to follow orders unless they are in violation of the law. (I don't care what they say in public, they want you to follow all given orders illegal or otherwise in the military.)
Whether or not Obama is a legal US citizen is/was a matter for the courts etc......

This guy is fucked and will be court marshaled.

J. Falcon 04-07-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMNMAN (Post 17015304)
OK, first of all this guys in the US military and has to follow orders unless they are in violation of the law. (I don't care what they say in public, they want you to follow all given orders illegal or otherwise in the military.)
Whether or not Obama is a legal US citizen is/was a matter for the courts etc......

This guy is fucked and will be court marshaled.

Best and most coherent post of this thread. :2 cents:

EZRhino 04-07-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by USS Clownpenis (Post 17014505)
The "order" in question is not just any order but an order to report. It comes from the TOP, so the officer is REQUIRED by military law itself to question anything about it that is erroneous, including if he sincerely believes that the originator, in this case the CiC Obama, is not eligible to issue the order.

Not one of the issues you mimic in your post is relevant.

Coming from the experience of enforcing the order to report. He does not have the right to choose not to report. If you choose not to report then you accept the consquences according to the UCMJ. He is REQUIRED by law to report and then submit his request to be re-assigned. If denied, send it up the chain of command. If denied then he has two options report or stand tall before the man. As of right now Obama is CiC and the joint chiefs are giving him a order. He is not treasonous but he is UA and must face his responsibility.
"Ours is not reason why. Ours is but to do and die."

xxweekxx 04-07-2010 09:44 PM

do you guys think the USA secret service, fbi, etc didnt check out Obama before letting him be president? LOL

you dont wanna know how much they dug into his background.. the usa govt knows all about obama, from what time he was born, and in what hospital, to how many parking tickets, and how much he paid in taxes 10 years ago.. jeez.. this is usa you talking about here.. it'll take the gov 20secs to verify if obama is a usa citizen or not..

besides that general or whatever is an asshat.. your job is to follow orders, not question the validity of the person giving u the order.. dumbfuck

Brujah 04-08-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dcat (Post 17015208)
5. The University of Chicago released a statement in March, 2008 saying Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) "served as a professor" in the law school, but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed in 2008.

When they don't reveal a source, yet it's from "a spokesman for the school" you know it's not credible, especially when written on a blog like the Examiner.

And, who is Doug Ross? Why should I believe what he says, without proof and credible sources? More importantly, why do you?

If even Ann Coulter thinks you're nuts on the birther agenda, you really gotta step back and take a look at where your mind is. Mike Huckabee just laughs at you guys.

crockett 04-08-2010 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by USS Clownpenis (Post 17012814)
This man is a Lt Col, he's not some basement dwelling GFY idiot.

AND a doctor, a real doctor; a flight surgeon.

I bet they back down and rescind the orders.


No he will be charged for disobeying an order. The Military will not put up with that shit. It doesn't matter who the president is you still follow the chain of command.

Beerbar 04-09-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17014571)
Birthers = Lunatic Fringe

:thumbsup

Anyone that has been in the military knows, this guy is toast, career over, and a trail no way, he?s not a civilian, court martial. And he is a peon fucking LT. Col, deciding whether or not to obey the Commander in Chief is way above his pay grade.

Luscious Media 04-09-2010 06:38 AM

Big O
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uno 04-09-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 17014609)
Here is the potential problem with doing that. It is basically a small fringe group that is demanding these documents. If he gives into this group's demands it most likely will not make them happy. Most of them hate him and will find some other technicality to attack him on. Regardless of that, it would open up a can of worms and set a precedent. Then any crazy group with an agenda could go after him demanding this and demanding that and we end up burning even more tax dollars trying to fulfill these demands.

Palin is a pretty good example of this. One of the reasons she says she left office was that her administration was under siege. People were requesting every single little document she had ever touched and her office had spent over 600K fulfilling these demands. There was no end in sight. Her haters were going to go through every letter of every document and find things to attack her with.

While I think there were other bigger reasons for her stepping down (IE millions to be made with books, speeches and TV shows plus the fact that she may have lost her re-election bid) it doesn't change the fact that these things happened to her and would/could happen to Obama. He has produced the document that is required, he has satisfied the legal requirement and he isn't going to bow to a small, vocal and angry group. As soon as he does that he may well be opening the flood gates.

The problem with that is that he has produced all the relevant documentation. They simply don't care or it's never good enough.

JP513 04-10-2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Luscious Media (Post 17018822)
Big O
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:error

Eh. That's not entirely accurate. The Joint Chiefs are made up of 4 star generals promoted to be the Chief of Staff of their branch, so it is prestigious, but they are actually not in the operational chain of command between the Sec of Defense and the 4-star generals. Their role is to advise the president and administer their branches, including policy, planning, training, etc.

The chain of command runs from the President to the Sec of Defense directly to the 4-star generals of the various operational commands around the world. The most direct of which are the unified commands, i.e., US CentComm, US NorthComm, US EUCOMM (European Command), etc.

The rest of your post--good point. A Lt. Col is an accomplished military officer generally of approximately 17-25 years experience, but when it comes down to his overall authority on matters of policy, the constitution, etc., their role is to carry out orders as assigned by their superiors, which generally includes supervising and commanding subordinate personell.

theking 04-10-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 17020932)
:error

Eh. That's not entirely accurate. The Joint Chiefs are made up of 4 star generals promoted to be the Chief of Staff of their branch, so it is prestigious, but they are actually not in the operational chain of command between the Sec of Defense and the 4-star generals. Their role is to advise the president and administer their branches, including policy, planning, training, etc.

The chain of command runs from the President to the Sec of Defense directly to the 4-star generals of the various operational commands around the world. The most direct of which are the unified commands, i.e., US CentComm, US NorthComm, US EUCOMM (European Command), etc.

The rest of your post--good point. A Lt. Col is an accomplished military officer generally of approximately 17-25 years experience, but when it comes down to his overall authority on matters of policy, the constitution, etc., their role is to carry out orders as assigned by their superiors, which generally includes supervising and commanding subordinate personell.

It is my understanding that this Lt. Col is a doctor and doctors are commissioned as Captains thus he is not an accomplished military officer...merely a doctor.l

USS Clownpenis 04-10-2010 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17020939)
It is my understanding that this Lt. Col is a doctor and doctors are commissioned as Captains thus he is not an accomplished military officer...merely a doctor.l

god damn, you are stupid :helpme

MasterBlow 04-10-2010 01:25 AM

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theking 04-10-2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by USS Clownpenis (Post 17020941)
god damn, you are stupid :helpme

I just verified the fact that the man is a doctor and it is a fact that doctors are commissioned as a Captain...thank you very much. You are now dismissed.

Luscious Media 04-10-2010 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 17020932)
:error

Eh. That's not entirely accurate. The Joint Chiefs are made up of 4 star generals promoted to be the Chief of Staff of their branch, so it is prestigious, but they are actually not in the operational chain of command between the Sec of Defense and the 4-star generals. Their role is to advise the president and administer their branches, including policy, planning, training, etc.

The chain of command runs from the President to the Sec of Defense directly to the 4-star generals of the various operational commands around the world. The most direct of which are the unified commands, i.e., US CentComm, US NorthComm, US EUCOMM (European Command), etc.

The rest of your post--good point. A Lt. Col is an accomplished military officer generally of approximately 17-25 years experience, but when it comes down to his overall authority on matters of policy, the constitution, etc., their role is to carry out orders as assigned by their superiors, which generally includes supervising and commanding subordinate personell.

My bad, you are correct. Learn something new every day.

MaDalton 04-10-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17020989)
I just verified the fact that the man is a doctor and it is a fact that doctors are commissioned as a Captain...thank you very much. You are now dismissed.

everyone who saw M.A.S.H. would know that :winkwink:

CosmicTang 04-14-2010 11:30 AM

It's official: court martial

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archi...3/2267021.aspx

BFT3K 04-14-2010 11:34 AM

Imagine how much coverage this story would be getting on Fox if the political roles were reversed?

Waterboard the fucker, and send him off to Guantanamo!

2012 04-14-2010 11:37 AM

teabag alert !!! to the batcave !

_Richard_ 04-14-2010 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17032624)
Imagine how much coverage this story would be getting on Fox if the political roles were reversed?

Waterboard the fucker, and send him off to Guantanamo!

definitely.. i hear waterboarding isn't torture

CosmicTang 04-14-2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17032643)
definitely.. i hear waterboarding isn't torture

Don't you mean 'enhanced interrogation technique'?

theking 04-14-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicTang (Post 17032615)

There was never any doubt in my mind that he would be...if he failed to obey orders. The Courts Martial will be swift with a conviction.

2012 04-14-2010 01:06 PM

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saucygirl 04-14-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17014846)
Yikes that bitch is ugly.



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