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gideongallery 04-27-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17048370)
Gideon, you haven't answered my questions. i'm not interested in your vcr story, call it ignorance if you want. making one copy for yourself or a friend on a tape does not give you right to distribute it to millions and does not give some random 3rd party to do it without obtaining license for distribute that copy.

but that were the vcr analogy works perfectly
sony didn't obtain a licience to make copies

and btw torrents don't distribute copies they distribute pieces of copies (sampling)
the client put those pieces together.

seeders are committing as much of a copyright infringement as a guy shredding a book and putting it in his garbage.

it the leacher who may or may not be committing a copyright infringement
it depends completle if the act is fair use authorized
if he is one of the 99.5% of the population that own at least 1 tv then downloading such a tv show is in fact the fair use act of timeshifting

if he is not than it is a copyright infringement

like i keep saying

leave the tracker alone
leave the seeder alone
leave the leacher with fair use right alone
go after the leacher without fair use rights

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unlike you I recognize there is an issue with piracy on massive scale and do hope and believe that it will get tougher for pirates to deal on the web with time. i'm sure your VCR rights won't be changed.
you do realize the reason why a torrent recorder is the best pvr is because of the network effect.

every machine in the swarm is a redundant backup for every other machine.
it provides both timeshifting and backup at the same time.
it gives me abilities that a normal pvr doesn't give me
like catching up on shows i didn't realize i would like (like supernatural)
it the 5th season of that show i never watched it even though i paid for it for that entire time.
this year a friend told me to check it out since i was talking about how much i missed buffy and angel and wished they would bring back stories like that.

i torrented all the old episodes, and now space has me as a new viewer.

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Hollywood didn't give PirateBay right to be their redundant backup solution, so who gives them the right, is it instant because you purchased Win7 or Avatar you can share your copy with world on premises of redundant backup? wake the fuck up.
total bullshit statement

microsoft doesn't give permission to seagate to be the backup
if copyright holder had that right microsoft could extend their monopoly on the desktop to sms server and backup solution by simply saying we don't give permission to company x to backup our software

companies would be forced to by microsoft sms server to back up windows desktop.

you don't need permission from the copyright holder to perform fair use services. every copyright holder gave that permission when they accepted the exclusive rights from the government.

That the point

copyright holders are given a special monopoly in exchange for authorizing all fair use rights as not being an infringement of that monopoly.

papill0n 04-27-2010 10:14 PM

gideongallery :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I mean have you ever read more shit in all your life ? :Oh crap

gideongallery 04-29-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 17081323)
gideongallery :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I mean have you ever read more shit in all your life ? :Oh crap

as opposed to the guy saying that you only have the right to backup with "authorized" backup providers.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 04-29-2010 04:56 PM

oh no, tough piracy law enacted in country. move to next country. profit...

Dirty Dane 04-29-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies (Post 17047653)
The key is. To TAKE their domain after many infractions.

:2 cents:

Serge Litehead 04-29-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17087959)
as opposed to the guy saying that you only have the right to backup with "authorized" backup providers.

backup on any type of devices you want, personally.
what torrent sites do - they distribute it to people they have no means to verify purchase of license from of legit content in order to provide backup and access to it. - isn't simple concept?

before you can backup or access it = you have to have a license in the first place.

open your torrent tracker, build in mechanisms of license validation, then no one will say a word that you freely distribute it to masses and backup all you want with others legit license holders for that particular piece of intellectual property that you purchased in the first place. no one will stop you then and take your vcr rights away.

if you want to have this redundant backup - do it legitimately. freely (including some private trackers) accesible torrents is not the way as they are hubs for piracy

icymelon 04-29-2010 05:26 PM

I dont understand the illegal tube thing. Why not just use sponsor content and put a text link under it. 3 minutes is plenty long

Serge Litehead 04-29-2010 05:30 PM

you need some sort of license validation mechanism in place before you can demand your vcr rights extended on the internet.

marcop 04-29-2010 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Denny (Post 17046608)
Tube sites steal our money/traffic:pimp

It's called competition, and though what they're doing is nominally illegal, they're still competing with people who are doing things legally. It may be unfair, but who said life was fair?

Fletch XXX 04-29-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 17045982)
Good, the US needs to crack down as well.

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as soon as we deal with this medical marijuana, and illegals immigrants, we will get right on it.

PenisFace 04-29-2010 06:00 PM

as a canadian, i am far too busy watching hockey to care about these new laws. what were they about again?


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