Agreed.
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Shut up faggot.

This was a stunt done by a group of kids to be ironic on Cinco De Mayo, in their largely mexican filled school.

I thought we were having an adult conversation.

Serious answer... Mexican's don't give a shit if anyone wears red white or blue or whatever they like. Again, the actions of these few kids produced a potential for worse things to follow.

You don't make any sense at all. It's like talking to a Muslim about the terrorism and Islam and getting all these vague evasive answers.

Move to fucking Mexico!

I've saw MANY July 4th Celebrations up here in Canada, just American's celebrating their holiday. I would never in a MILLION years try to interupt or be so ignorant as to show up there boasting my countries flag on my back and looking for a fight.

I'd have to be a complete fucking asshole to do that, or from what I've saw in this thread, American.

I already live in California. :)

Exactly, it's a matter of mutual respect.

How is this concept so hard to understand for some? Simple... If you want to behave like an asshole, get ready to be treated like one.

I don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. Anyone who goes up to Canada to celebrate the fourth of July deserves to have their fucking ass beaten.

The problem with special interest groups are they are just like religious groups. They are hypocrites who always find a way to twist things around so that the violations they commit can be justified in their own minds.

I really have to stop responding in this thread because I feel it's going to turn me into a Nazi. :1orglaugh

Mutual respect is not going into someone else's country and spitting on their customs to begin with. Again this is hypocrisy at it's finest.

But would you be AFRAID to wear the maple leaf in your own country? Would your child be sent home for it? Kids will be kids, the human brain doesnt finish growing until mid 20's. And nothing in the story said those kids "tried" to do anything or even spoke to anyone except the principal sending them home that day.

Plain and simple, regardless of intention, the school is in the wrong for celebrating a mexican holiday and expecting all of their students to do the same.

It's a US holiday dude. Now are they not wrong?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo

I don't believe a public school should have any agenda for any holiday or any religion. So yes they are still in the wrong.

Fuck that shit man! If you live in the United States of America and you are here LEGALLY... You are a fucking AMERICAN! RED - WHITE - BLUE are the colors of THIS COUNTRY. Great... You can have pride in your heritage, that's just fantastic, but if it is so great, why are you in America? And why would you "start shit" because someone is proud to be American? That's fucking bullshit, and that School should be fined for interfering with student's right to have pride in their own Country.

Damn, no Christmas break? That's strict.

Who gives a fuck if it's some US holiday or not? Do you send a Jew home from school because he wears his beanie on Good Friday or Ash Wednesday?

It's called winter break, you know like summer break and spring break?

Some people can afford to travel, and to go away to cottage country, or where ever during National Holidays, not everyone just sits around and cries about how unfair shit is.

They weren't doing it to be proud to be an American man. Can't you see that? They were doing it to be assholes. ASS - HOLES! Once again, the point is that the actions of these few kids produced a potential for worse things to follow, and that's the reason administrators put a stop to it. Nothing more, nothing less. Not to stomp out patriotism, not because they aren't proud Americans, not because they don't respect the flag, not because they like Mexicans more... simple because they recognized that the situation had the potential to escalate.

Who gives a fuck about some US holiday or not? Are you a patriot or not? You don't give a shit about US days of observance? Move to fucking Mexico then. :1orglaugh

Or Canada. Up there I can celebrate the fourth of July! :1orglaugh

Unfortunately (or fortunately really) there's no law against being an asshole, just against discrimination and civil rights violations.

I am not sure what the word freedom means these days:( Our country has changed so much and keeps changing so fast.

Mr. Romance

right, but at a high school being an asshole can easily lead to a fight.

Let's not kid ourselves here, the only reason cinco de mayo has any resemblance to a holiday in the US is due to Corona/Dos XX and Jose Cuervo spending tens of millions on marketing to prop up Mexican branded alcohol sales.

Wiki does make note of your observation but does include other reasons as well.

In the United States Cinco de Mayo has taken on a significance beyond that in Mexico.[16][18][19][20] The date is perhaps best recognized in the United States as a date to celebrate the culture and experiences of Americans of Mexican ancestry, much as St. Patrick's Day, Oktoberfest, and the Chinese New Year are used to celebrate those of Irish, German, and Chinese ancestry respectively. Similar to those holidays, Cinco de Mayo is observed by many Americans regardless of ethnic origin. Celebrations tend to draw both from traditional Mexican symbols, such as the Virgen de Guadalupe, and from prominent figures of Mexican descent in the United States, including César Chávez.[21] To celebrate, many display Cinco de Mayo banners while school districts hold special events to educate pupils about its historical significance. Special events and celebrations highlight Mexican culture, especially in its music and regional dancing. Examples include baile folklórico and mariachi demonstrations held annually at the Plaza del Pueblo de Los Angeles, near Olvera Street. Commercial interests in the United States have capitalized on the celebration, advertising Mexican products and services, with an emphasis on beverages,[22] foods, and music.[23][24]

it is not a US holiday, it is celebrated here is all, not out of some respect for the Mexicans winning a battle against the French, it is just an excuse to party. Read the link you posted, here is more for you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_..._United_States

It dont matter why they wore what they wore, the school admin should have explained that to the kids that complained in the first place. The same right that allows them to celebrate a holiday that has nothing to do with this country, is the right that allows the others to wear what they wore. The school administrator should have taken the opportunity to explain to kids what this is all about and instead took the approach of someone with little education, at least when it comes to educating children.

This whole thing should never have happened, but things being what they are it did happen, but put the blame where it belongs, with an inept school administrators that used either their own prejudice against the country that gives them a job, educated them and protects them to make his decision or they are just that fucking stupid and should not be in the position of educating kids.

What a brain, let me show these kids they are being assholes wearing their own countries colors on a Mexican holiday, thats just trying to cause trouble because the Mexican... decedents (of course all here legally) could be offended, so we will just take their rights away. We have the power, we are the school! Say the kids planned it, still changes nothing at all, the reaction was ignorant.

But hey, it is cool to bash the USA... all together now

The holiday is not celebrated nor observed in Mexico, only here in the US. Might not technically be a US holiday but it's definitely not a Mexican one. I went to school in the next town over so i'm familiar with how these things work up there. This isn't the first time administrators deal with things like this. Something similar happenned when I was in high school 18 years ago :). They acted to prevent a fight from happening, that's all. Lots of fighting up there in those small towns, administrators have to err on the side of caution at the slightest hint of provocation.

Anyway, this is the kind of thing that increases memberships in the Tea Baggers, Minute Men and Militia Movements so I hope you're happy with what went down.

That high school administrators should prevent fights from happenning? Yes, Im fine with it

Totally expected. Live there and youll understand how it is in Cali whenit comes to this stuff.... they want to make the schools Spanish speaking only.

I agree, everyone thinks its such a cut and dry argument. You really need to put yourself in the shoes of the high school officials... Do you let these kids wear these colors (meant to mock the 40% of Hispanic students in the school), or ask them to turn them inside out... Its pretty simple question when it comes to the safety of those students that they did the right thing. Think about if students celebrated Independence Day at school and some group of Hispanic kids wore Mexican flags... Its pretty obvious the kids were trying to be disrespectful to all the other kids not of their origin... I'm pretty sure the exact same thing would have gone down if the roles were flipped and no one would have said anything. If we saw THAT type of story on the news you guys would all say "fuck off, they were being disrespectful to America" You can keep arguing about the constitution and our rights, which were obviously broken.. but that doesn't mean the school didn't do the right thing in this situation. :2 cents:

try to at least know the facts, the kids have mexican parents. The fucking kid looks and sounds hispanic! you are making them sound like racists, when they are MEXICAN! You can be patriotic and be mexican, you do know that right? LOL

Ya I'm sure this group of students all decided to wear American flags on Cinco de Mayo to pay homage to their Mexican heritage and not to get a rise out of the other students. My bad.

According to your logic, The next time I see someone wearing an obama t shirt I am going to call the police because I feel it has the "potential for worse things to follow" Remember the day of the inauguration? allot of people were wearing obama t shirts... I was offended.. What about my rights? According to your logic..:2 cents:

you specifically said: "not of their origin" - so whats that mean? They are of the SAME ORIGIN. Fail.

They are Hispanic too.

You just want to point the finger and scream racism, try again.

I never did play the race card, I was simply giving an example of a different scenario and how it would have been a totally different turn of events. I am not calling these kids racist, I just think its funny how when the school does something to protect kids who were trying to stir shit up in a school system (regardless of how they did it) they get shit on. If they didn't ask for them to remove their shirts it could have seriously escalated to a much bigger story of a hate crime. I probably would have done the same thing in their shoes.

Did you even read it? It is a mexican holiday.
Cinco de Mayo is a regional holiday limited primarily to the state of Puebla. There is some limited recognition of the holiday in other parts of the country.[17] For the most part, the celebrations combine food, music, and dancing.

yes, you did. You charged them with not being of hispanic origin before you knew the facts in an effort to create a racial element to the issue, which has nothing to do with race.

Sorry but please do not attribute that bad analogy as being my logic. It is not.

This isn't about politics or rights for that matter. It's about trying to prevent a fight from happening on a high school campus.

I bet you got in a lot of fights in high school..

Yes I did...

History of observance

Cinco de Mayo dancers greeted by Former U.S. President George W. Bush.
According to a paper published by the UCLA Center for the Study of Latino Health and Culture about the origin of the observance of Cinco de Mayo in the United States, the modern American focus on that day first started in California in the 1860s in response to the resistance to French rule in Mexico.[16] The 2007 paper notes that "The holiday, which has been celebrated in California continuously since 1863, is virtually ignored in Mexico."[16]

No, only 2. But there were near riots on campus and fighting on campus was a big problem.

well played though, I like that. :)

Changes nothing, the school admins acted wrong, 18 years ago or yesterday. The approach was wrong, plain and simple. A failed opportunity to educate kids. Instead what have they accomplished? Let's see, now instead of it being educational it is a big deal. Kids have learned what? The Amexs have learned if they piss and moan they will keep getting their way. The other kids learned if they pitch a bitch to the media they will get heard. So it solved nothing, if anything only causes more bad feelings and has heated things up even more.

It is just another day that part of this nation chooses to celebrate while others have the right to not celebrate it. The actions of the school is the issue and yes others above them are to blame, including the parents. I doubt the ones wearing the flags parents gave it a second thought as they got ready for school.... why should they?

American kids sent home for wearing American colors, in an American school on Cinco De Mayo?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

The United States of American, in terms of a great nation, is over. :2 cents: :(

sooo ridiculous

The insane point is that anyone living here would have a problem with the flag of our country....

So one set of Mexican-American kids wore an American Flag on Cinco De Mayo and this would cause potential problems with other Mexican-American kids????

I don't give a damn what day of the year it is.... How is it your right to control other people by being offended and COMPLAINING to the teacher about someone wearing an American flag???

Either it is an American holiday, in which case, no problem; or it isn't, in which case, please respect our country and our right to be proud of our culture/flag just as we respect your right to celebrate your foreign holiday.


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The insane point is that anyone living here would have a problem with the flag of our country....

Of course that would be insane. Good thing is, nobody had or has a problem with the flag. It was the context in which the flag was being used on a specific day in which another group of Americans celebrating a day of cultural observance, that was perceived to be antagonistic.

So one set of Mexican-American kids wore an American Flag on Cinco De Mayo and this would cause potential problems with other Mexican-American kids????

Yes. Fighting is a big problem at public high schools in that area. Administrators deal with it every day, not just that day. It's not an enviable job and since kids play funny games and then go, "What? Who me? I'm just a patriot? I'm totally innocent," it doesn't make it any easier.

I don't give a damn what day of the year it is.... How is it your right to control other people by being offended and COMPLAINING to the teacher about someone wearing an American flag???

Whether you give a damn about what day of the year it is your own preference. Many other Americans do give a damn about days of cultural observance.
It is not anyone's right to control other people and what they prefer to wear. It is a duty of the administrators to step in when they view something as having potential to start trouble.

Either it is an American holiday, in which case, no problem; or it isn't, in which case, please respect our country and our right to be proud of our culture/flag just as we respect your right to celebrate your foreign holiday.

I agree. Still, the administrators were not disrespecting the country nor being no proud of being an American. They simply recognized that this group of kids planned a provocative act and stopped it before another child might have been provoked into acting out against them. You can't just let kids do whatever they want, no matter what the circumstances. The decisions that were made were based on policies that were likely shaped by incidents that have occurred in the past. Administrators are use to seeing kids try to get an inch and take a mile. They're use to seeing what has the potential to start a fight and what doesn't. They didn't just act on the fly and make up some judgment yesterday because they hate Americans and love Mexicans. They did what they did based on what they know about how children behave and how to control those kids based on what they've experienced in the past.

All in all... kids do stupid shit and try to be funny and provocative to get attention all the time. This was a simple case of the adult going, "we know what you're trying to do, stop it."