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Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-25-2010 03:18 PM

I'm 100% sure that if it was Palin/Mccain duo we would be all rolling in dough right now.

sortie 05-25-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbomb (Post 17173434)
I'm 100% sure that if it was Palin/Mccain duo we would be all rolling in dough right now.

Yeah, pizza dough after we crash trying to make our 30 minute delivery deadline in
our Toyota Prius. :1orglaugh

mountainmiester 05-25-2010 04:14 PM

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Until now, Mr. Bush ran up the biggest deficits and the largest amount of National Debt in U.S. history. The National Debt increased $4.9-trillion on his watch. The new budget plan shows the title of biggest spender will fall to Mr. Obama.

If his numbers prove true, the debt will have soared $6.3-trillion during his term. Double it if he wins a second term. - CBS News
What more needs to be said...

u-Bob 05-25-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 17173067)
The truth is that it's obvious that both parties are slaves to corporate interests and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Ron Paul!

DudeRick 05-25-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzzyQ (Post 17173049)
A month after Katrina, everyone was all over Bush for his slow response. Here we are a month after what will be the worst environmental disaster in history and everyone is giving Obama a pass on this.

Just an observation.

Barrak Obama does not care about white people!

Relentless 05-25-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17173018)
Just wondering, any regrets?

There is no such thing as an 'Obama Supporter'
There are millions of people who understand Obama was the best of the choices listed.
That remains true today and was true on election day.

Palin is an idiot, McCain does not know what email is... Edwards can't keep it in his pants long enough to care for his wife who has cancer, Hillary would never have won a general election in the last cycle.... American elections are multiple choice... you don't get to write in who you think would be best at the job.

So far he has done less good than I would have liked... but he has also done infinitely less bad than the previous regime. Hopefully that is the start of a trend, where each administration is better than the prior one... though coming after Bush makes it pretty much impossible to do worse. :2 cents:

dav3 05-25-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mountainmiester (Post 17173548)
What more needs to be said...

Just this:

http://i44.tinypic.com/5bo9j8.jpg

icymelon 05-25-2010 04:25 PM

I'm pretty annoyed about the oil spill. but I imagine the economy could have ended up really in the shitter had he not been president

IllTestYourGirls 05-25-2010 04:29 PM

The only way to get the corporatist out of the White House :2 cents::2 cents:

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17173561)
Ron Paul!

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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 17173575)


Gouge 05-25-2010 04:30 PM

During first 36 days of Katrina, Bush made 7 visits to Gulf Coast.

So far on Day 36 of BP oil leak, Obama has made 1 visit to disaster area.

And to add to that Obama will be the first presednet in US history to skip Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery.

Just saying...

SykkBoy 05-25-2010 04:34 PM

I'm kind of upset that the world hasn't ended yet...the McCain/Palin robots promised that if Obama won, the world would end...but, nothing...come on, Apocalypse!

Relentless 05-25-2010 04:34 PM

A vote for Ron Paul was no different than a vote for Ralph Nader or Ross Perot....

Picking the best non-viable candidate is fun... it also doesn't get them elected. :2 cents:

kane 05-25-2010 04:36 PM

Like many others have said here, he was handed a shit sandwich and has been trying to make the best of it. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he has done, but I think he has done some good stuff to help us get back on track. At the same time I think he has taken his eye off the ball and messed some things up.

I think the hardest part of being president is that first 1-1.5 years. you get into office with big expectations (and none were ever higher than those for Obama) and you have all these promises you have made and things you want to do then you realize that the reality of saying you are going to do them and actually being able to get them done are two different things. Our system is set up in a way that when you want something, if the other party doesn't want it, they have plenty of ways to stop it and there has been no shortage of that.

Could he have done a better job with the oil spill? Maybe, but I don't see it as being his Katrina. They are two very different things. Rules and laws basically forced him to stay out of it if he gave an executive order to let the government step in and take over, the republicans would have shit little green elk because the Socialist was now taking over the oil industry.

All this said, I think he is getting his feet under him and learning how to play the game. He is starting to do things that maybe he should have done a year ago, but at least he is moving towards them. I have a feeling that the republicans will win back the house in the fall so we will have a republican house and a democrat senate and white house. Maybe that will cause him to curb in some of his big spending ideas and focus more on balancing the budget now, instead of 12 years from now. It worked well for Clinton when he had to deal with the republicans.

Overall I give him a grade of a B and I think things are looking up. I think he needs to get on immigration reform ASAP or we are going to quickly see this country start to be torn apart as the red and blue states fight with each other over the different laws they pass.

kane 05-25-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie (Post 17173213)
LOL @ the way the thread title reads in the firefox tab. :1orglaugh

LOL that is great!

TheDoc 05-25-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17173587)
During first 36 days of Katrina, Bush made 7 visits to Gulf Coast.

So far on Day 36 of BP oil leak, Obama has made 1 visit to disaster area.

And to add to that Obama will be the first presednet in US history to skip Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery.

Just saying...

That was one more than he ever needed to visit... that one visit, made no difference just like if he visited 10 times, it would have made no difference.

On the other hand, Katrina whipped out half a city and many other towns, people dieing, starving, people stuck. The President coming into a controlled area makes it appear safe, that he is on duty.

Not exactly the same thing going on here... Lord Obama is mighty powerful but he can't do shit to stop the oil.

IllTestYourGirls 05-25-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 17173606)
A vote for Ron Paul was no different than a vote for Ralph Nader or Ross Perot....

Picking the best non-viable candidate is fun... it also doesn't get them elected. :2 cents:

Clearly you have not been paying attention.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 04:55 PM

Ron Paul got all of 35k votes... with all the huge Internet hype, bullshit that people donated millions... he never had a chance, will never have a chance, and couldn't possibly win even if every other candidate dropped dead during the primaries.

KillerK 05-25-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173654)
That was one more than he ever needed to visit... that one visit, made no difference just like if he visited 10 times, it would have made no difference.

On the other hand, Katrina whipped out half a city and many other towns, people dieing, starving, people stuck. The President coming into a controlled area makes it appear safe, that he is on duty.

Not exactly the same thing going on here... Lord Obama is mighty powerful but he can't do shit to stop the oil.

You are an idiot.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 17173680)
You are an idiot.

Sounds like you have all the answers as well.... maybe you should enlighten us to what Obama could or would be doing?

Or you just trolling your mouth as usual?

Minte 05-25-2010 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 17173614)
Like many others have said here, he was handed a shit sandwich and has been trying to make the best of it. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he has done, but I think he has done some good stuff to help us get back on track. At the same time I think he has taken his eye off the ball and messed some things up.

I think the hardest part of being president is that first 1-1.5 years. you get into office with big expectations (and none were ever higher than those for Obama) and you have all these promises you have made and things you want to do then you realize that the reality of saying you are going to do them and actually being able to get them done are two different things. Our system is set up in a way that when you want something, if the other party doesn't want it, they have plenty of ways to stop it and there has been no shortage of that.

Could he have done a better job with the oil spill? Maybe, but I don't see it as being his Katrina. They are two very different things. Rules and laws basically forced him to stay out of it if he gave an executive order to let the government step in and take over, the republicans would have shit little green elk because the Socialist was now taking over the oil industry.

All this said, I think he is getting his feet under him and learning how to play the game. He is starting to do things that maybe he should have done a year ago, but at least he is moving towards them. I have a feeling that the republicans will win back the house in the fall so we will have a republican house and a democrat senate and white house. Maybe that will cause him to curb in some of his big spending ideas and focus more on balancing the budget now, instead of 12 years from now. It worked well for Clinton when he had to deal with the republicans.

Overall I give him a grade of a B and I think things are looking up. I think he needs to get on immigration reform ASAP or we are going to quickly see this country start to be torn apart as the red and blue states fight with each other over the different laws they pass.

He has clearly added a couple of turds to that sandwich. He comes across as always in campaign mode. He drags his feet on every issue that comes across his desk. He clearly waits to see how the polls favor things. His transparency in government is not even a bad joke.
No need to go down the whole list..

Was he a better choice than McCain,possibly.
I would've voted for Hillary Clinton. It would've been my choice to see a woman with real political experience in office rather than what we have today. A junior senator from a basically corrupt democratic state with his only management experience running a daycare for wayward adults.

DudeRick 05-25-2010 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173654)
That was one more than he ever needed to visit... that one visit, made no difference just like if he visited 10 times, it would have made no difference.

On the other hand, Katrina whipped out half a city and many other towns, people dieing, starving, people stuck. The President coming into a controlled area makes it appear safe, that he is on duty.

Not exactly the same thing going on here... Lord Obama is mighty powerful but he can't do shit to stop the oil.

And on the 36th day god said "Plug the damn hole" and all was forgiven. :disgust

IllTestYourGirls 05-25-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173670)
Ron Paul got all of 35k votes... with all the huge Internet hype, bullshit that people donated millions... he never had a chance, will never have a chance, and couldn't possibly win even if every other candidate dropped dead during the primaries.

You need to get more than 35k votes to win two states. :2 cents:

DateDoc 05-25-2010 05:06 PM

It does not matter whether you support him or not and it did not matter who was elected in 2008 as they were 4 years and out from the get go. Too much to fix, too much gone wrong. No one could have made it through these 4 years and get re-elected.

HeadPimp 05-25-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17173042)
yes nobody is perfect atleast he's not trying to kill everyone living in the middle east

Sure hasn't stopped it though.

All I have seen is a string of broken promises.

Where is the transparency we were promised? Televised debate on health care? What about no closed door, secret negotiations?

Lies, lies and more lies. But what should we expect, he is a professionally groomed politician?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-25-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17173587)
During first 36 days of Katrina, Bush made 7 visits to Gulf Coast.

So far on Day 36 of BP oil leak, Obama has made 1 visit to disaster area.

How many people died in goalf coast so far? How many did in katrina?

Just saying.

IllTestYourGirls 05-25-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 17173719)
Sure hasn't stopped it though.

All I have seen is a string of broken promises.

Where is the transparency we were promised? Televised debate on health care? What about no closed door, secret negotiations?

Lies, lies and more lies. But what should we expect, he is a professionally groomed politician?

While campaigning he promised to have troops out of Iraq last week. I wonder why MSNBC and CNN are not reporting on that lie?

brassmonkey 05-25-2010 05:15 PM

wheres bad dogg did he doze off :helpme

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-25-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17173746)
wheres bad dogg did he doze off :helpme

Probably rinsing dentures after dinner.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17173703)
You need to get more than 35k votes to win two states. :2 cents:

"In the 2008 general election, Paul still received 41,905 votes" That's with write'ins too, he only got like 35k votes during the election. Source is Ron Pauls wiki page.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeRick (Post 17173699)
And on the 36th day god said "Plug the damn hole" and all was forgiven. :disgust

Only way someone is going to plug that hole is if god steps in... I just hope the guys at BP are on top of the ball as much as you are with calling god in.

kane 05-25-2010 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17173693)
He has clearly added a couple of turds to that sandwich. He comes across as always in campaign mode. He drags his feet on every issue that comes across his desk. He clearly waits to see how the polls favor things. His transparency in government is not even a bad joke.
No need to go down the whole list..

Was he a better choice than McCain,possibly.
I would've voted for Hillary Clinton. It would've been my choice to see a woman with real political experience in office rather than what we have today. A junior senator from a basically corrupt democratic state with his only management experience running a daycare for wayward adults.

Given the choice I too would have voted for Clinton over Obama. I also agree that he has added some turds to the sandwich. I think his major failure has been that he saw the super majority and decided to push hard to get things through that the democrats have wanted for decades instead of focusing on solving the problems at hand. His number one priority should have been the economy and jobs. We shouldn't have seen him doing health care and gitmo and don't ask don't tell and other things first. It should have been jobs first and everything else afterwards.

We didn't have a great choice when it got down to him and McCain. The choice was the guy with very little experience or the guy that might die in his first year and leave a crazy woman in charge.

Like I said, I think he started off rough, but I think he is coming around and starting to get his feet under him. He is a populist and needs to get over that, his approval rating won't be going up much from where it is now no matter what he does. Pretty much every president hovers around 50%. He needs to forget trying to make everyone happy and just do the job.

Amputate Your Head 05-25-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 17173719)
But what should we expect, he is a professionally groomed politician?

I prefer 2 professionally groomed politicians in there running things than that unqualified idiot Palin. It still gives me cold chills just thinking about how close that woman came to the White House.

J. Falcon 05-25-2010 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17173687)
Sounds like you have all the answers as well.... maybe you should enlighten us to what Obama could or would be doing?

Or you just trolling your mouth as usual?

Pay no attention, "You are an idiot" represents 90% of his posts.

TheDoc 05-25-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17173818)
Pay no attention, "You are an idiot" represents 90% of his posts.

Ahh, the typical drive by trolling mouth on gfy..... one of the worst features of gfy is the pathetic trolls.

BlackCrayon 05-25-2010 05:47 PM

Regardless of regrets or not, do you think McCain would be doing any better? I VERY much doubt it.

Deej 05-25-2010 06:04 PM

obviously without a reply since posting... baddog was just kicking the barrel ;)

Rabble rabble rabble...

Helix 05-25-2010 06:08 PM

The two party's put forth some really lame candidates last election. Ron Paul looked good to me on financial, government, and foreign policy but he needs somebody strong to balance him out and bring him back to center and make him more palatable for mainstream America. I hope he picks a good running mate next election.

LoveSandra 05-25-2010 06:30 PM

dont cares

MrBottomTooth 05-25-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17173746)
wheres bad dogg did he doze off :helpme

http://www.youn00b.com/youn00bimage1229890800

brassmonkey 05-25-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 17173719)
Sure hasn't stopped it though.

All I have seen is a string of broken promises.

Where is the transparency we were promised? Televised debate on health care? What about no closed door, secret negotiations?

Lies, lies and more lies. But what should we expect, he is a professionally groomed politician?

are you kidding this stuff cant be fixed in 4 years this isnt a game.


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