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J. Falcon 06-02-2010 05:24 PM
Only difference is, things like that are uncommon over there.

brentbacardi 06-02-2010 05:59 PM
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In or about 2006, there were about 60 million (actually closer to 58M, but we'll use the rounded-up number to be kind to hopolophobes) people in the UK as a whole, including Scotland.

In England and Wales alone — discounting Scotland — there were over 163 thousand knife crimes.

By the end of 2006, there were more than 300 million people in the US as a whole.

In the US as a whole, there were fewer than 400 thousand gun crimes.

In the UK, based on these numbers, there was one knife crime commited for every 374 people (rounded down).

In the US, based on these numbers, there was one gun crime committed for every 750 people — less than half a gun crime per 374 people (about 0.4987 gun crimes per 374 people, actually).

That means that, based on these statistics, you are more than twice as likely to be a victim of knife crime in the UK as you are to be a victim of gun crime in the US.

Source: http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=1323


When you want someone dead, it doesn't matter if all you have is a knife, a gun, a rock, a car... you will kill them LOL

Joshua G 06-02-2010 09:19 PM
Guns are not the problem. Psychopaths are.

Mcveigh didnt use a gun. Neither did Osama.

Big Red Machine 06-02-2010 10:08 PM
Have you heard?....Bird is the Word

roly 06-03-2010 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by brentbacardi (Post 17204020)
Source: http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=1323


When you want someone dead, it doesn't matter if all you have is a knife, a gun, a rock, a car... you will kill them LOL
those figures are very misleading. its illegal to carry a knife in the UK, so the vast majority of that 163,000 is kids getting stopped by the police carrying a knife. and its very rare that 12 people will be killed by a madman with a knife. if a nutjob is walking dows the street shooting randomly with a gun you run for cover, if he was carrying a knife, you'd pick up something and batter him.

roly 06-03-2010 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17203863)
is it?

ok, its rare for somone to go wild like this.

but people get shot all the time in the uk.

i suspect at least once a week somone is shot or killed with a gun.

but often its in poor areas.

in manchester its not uncommon, and nottingham there is a big gun crime.

the only reason its made such news is that its a 'nice' area.

lets face it, how often does it happen in the usa? sure from time to time some nut goes wild, but when you consider the size o9f the usa. if you look at it per state i bet its not that common.
the vast majority of gun deaths in the UK is black on black gang crime. as a normal man on the street you're very unlikely to be a victim of gun crime.

fatfoo 06-03-2010 12:37 AM
Just a few grams of the wrong thing in your body and you will die. A bullet only weights 10 grams. Good luck with putting the right thing in your body.

madawgz 06-03-2010 01:16 AM
wow thats fucked up...going to give people more anxiety for sure...

Jarmusch 06-03-2010 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 17204723)
Just a few grams of the wrong thing in your body and you will die. A bullet only weights 10 grams. Good luck with putting the right thing in your body.
:1orglaugh

John-ACWM 06-03-2010 02:30 AM
Heard it on the news, what can you say, people going mad are anywhere.

mrwilson 06-03-2010 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 17203126)
wow, England?
Yup not to far from me either.
Pretty scary to think shit like this happened :|

trevesty 06-03-2010 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17203114)
Yes more people with more guns is the way to stop gun crimes. :upsidedow
I live in SW Missouri.. lots of rednecks.. almost on par with Texas.

City I live in is a city of about 80k.. not too big... whatever.

The tweakers around here usually only have a successful break in when the person isn't armed.. and last I heard on the local news, about 90% of this area at least has a hunting rifle.

Now if your point is to stop only GUN crimes.. sure, may work.

My point is to protect myself and those I love. If I have a .45 which I know how to operate quite well and the tweaker has a switch blade... better chance I'll win. And if I don't, I've got bigger problems :1orglaugh

Though I'm aware the UK and most of Europe is much less of a "gun culture".. but unfortunately with the US being the "melting pot", we also get all the shit bags for immigrants too.

Half of our problems would be taken care of by legalizing drugs but most people can't see outside of the bubble. Unless it's weed. :error

trevesty 06-03-2010 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by roly (Post 17204714)
the vast majority of gun deaths in the UK is black on black gang crime. as a normal man on the street you're very unlikely to be a victim of gun crime.
same for the US..

punkpred 06-03-2010 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17203039)
If only some of the surrounding citizens had concealed carry, it all could have been prevented by the good samaritan cowboys.
Not even the pigs carry here

ottopottomouse 06-03-2010 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17203766)
i suspect the goverment will panick (in the uk) and bring in new laws.
Kneejerk stupid new law will most likely be a ban on taxi drivers.


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