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Amputate Your Head 06-19-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17263472)
So what? It's not like he can do anything to plug the oil leak.

You're right. He obviously can't do anything right. He can't follow government regulations, even as lax as they are, he can't tell the truth, he can't provide a plan to prevent this from happening, he can't provide a plan to clean it up, he can't answer questions from Congress, he can't keep a low profile....

I agree, he can't do anything.

2MuchMark 06-19-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17263201)
yea, it looks bad, what exactly did you expect him to do?

After visiting his family for a few hours, the guy needs to be back at work, working with experts, finding ways to stop the spill. WTF is wrong with this guy?

Marcus Aurelius 06-19-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263498)
You're right. He obviously can't do anything right. He can't follow government regulations, even as lax as they are, he can't tell the truth, he can't provide a plan to prevent this from happening, he can't provide a plan to clean it up, he can't answer questions from Congress, he can't keep a low profile....

I agree, he can't do anything.

Look, i'm not defending the guy, he is obviously an asshat.
But at this point there is just nothing he can possibly do.

Amputate Your Head 06-19-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17263517)
Look, i'm not defending the guy, he is obviously an asshat.
But at this point there is just nothing he can possibly do.

If I devised some kind of gizmo that "accidentally" opened up a hole in our atmosphere and all of our oxygen was being sucked out into space, with no way to stop it....

Would you be so indifferent if I decided to take a little time for myself and go have a nice afternoon at the yacht races?

Marcus Aurelius 06-19-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263529)
If I devised some kind of gizmo that "accidentally" opened up a hole in our atmosphere and all of our oxygen was being sucked out into space, with no way to stop it....

Would you be so indifferent if I decided to take a little time for myself and go have a nice afternoon at the yacht races?

Ok, what do you propose he do?

Amputate Your Head 06-19-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17263531)
Ok, what do you propose he do?

His job.

babebuns 06-19-2010 02:29 PM

If you'd ever been to the Isle of White, otherwise know as the Pile of Shite you'd know there's nothing elitist about it.

dyna mo 06-19-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17263216)
I believe the old man that said the oil will leak for 40 years if they don't nuke it already...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17263393)
I love it... another day another fool. Don't spew what is on the news everyday and tell me i'm wrong. Brainwashed fag.

Listen to this video... specifically at 4:36 :thumbsup


matt simmons says it's ok to detonate a nuclear bomb 5000ft down during a media interview and you buy that line, yet tell me i'm brainwashed by the media? he states the russians did that and you believe him, yet i'm brainwashed? lolololol. god help those of us with a brain. do you even know what he's known for? he wrote a book on peak oil, i doubt you even know what peak oil is. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

classic gfy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mmcfadden 06-19-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17263544)
matt simmons says it's ok to detonate a nuclear bomb 5000ft down during a media interview and you buy that line, yet tell me i'm brainwashed by the media? he states the russians did that and you believe him, yet i'm brainwashed? lolololol. god help those of us with a brain. do you even know what he's known for? he wrote a book on peak oil, i doubt you even know what peak oil is. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

classic gfy.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Stop googling your responses to me. You can buy that there is one small 21" diameter pipe that is poisoning the gulf and soon to be atlantic ocean and I will choose to listen to what that guy has to say. He mentioned that to truly stop ALL leaks something LIKE a nuke is required.
Makes a lot more sense and he predicted every BP attempt would fail before they even tried it. I tend to like going to the beach and I don't listen to 5 oclock news to get information I feel is the biggest catastrophe in my life time and will certainly effect my life and my childrens life for years to come.

Why don't you just follow this video for your information and how to plug those LEAKS.


dyna mo 06-19-2010 02:45 PM

here's another mcfaggin post with accurate info-

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17255125)
. do you realize that 40 percent of the gulf of mexico is now covered in oil?

....and certainly wouldn't trust that glorified negro to make a real decision.

Brittanica Encyclopedia estimates the surface of the Gulf of Mexico to be
1,550,000 km2 that is 1,550,000,000,000 m2

so according to mcfaggin, there's 500 billion+ square miles of oil in the gulf, that's just oil on the surface, hopefully he's not so completely retarded he actually thinks 40% of the gulf is now oil.

god.

ahh, but the reality is

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17255029)
I want to understand a reason why a nuke is not exploded into the bottom like the russians did. But then it occurs to me we have a bitch president who can't fight the oil company.

See, if a nuke was dropped, it would collapse the spill but also stop billions of other wells. So what we do is bitch that oil is not stopping (teencat words blah, blah)

yet calls me brainwashed. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

dyna mo 06-19-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17263557)
Stop googling your responses to me.

umm, yeah, i'll start referencing youtube for the accurate information. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

mmcfadden 06-19-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17263565)
umm, yeah, i'll start referencing youtube for the accurate information. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

All your posts are meaningless crap regarding this issue recapped what the media is saying. Is worthless information and you are buying it.

You can listen to the media, I will listen to the old man who makes a lot more sense. Maybe he said enough oil has spilled to cover 40% of the surface, I don't know, don't feel like listening to it again. Point is its a lot of oil and it is not stopped.

Why don't you just play with your dick for a while.

dyna mo 06-19-2010 02:58 PM

here's a physicist's view on it, i know he's not an expert like mcfaggin, and i did find this via google, not the upstanding and respected news source known as youtube, so don't get brainwashed by what he states.


There was brief speculation in the media about using nuclear weapons to seal up the raging oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. I think this is a bad idea, from a physics point of view. Let me say that my mentor while I was in high school and at Harvard, Edward Teller, father of the H-bomb, was a firm advocate of using nuclear weapons to dig out canals and other grand engineering projects. The logic is this: when an H-bomb is detonated underground, most of its energy is in the form of soft X-rays, which deposit most of their energy in a large sphere, where it is absorbed and the energy turned to intense heat. (In the air, this ball of hot ionized plasma rises rapidly, with cold air coming in from the side, which gives rise to the familiar mushroom cloud).

Underground, we then have a hollow sphere of vaporized gas, with walls that have been glassified from the sand. This hollow sphere is stable from a few hours to a few days, but eventually the weight of the rock collapses the sphere. The result is a sudden collapse of the sphere, often releasing radioactive gas into the environment. In the wake of this explosion, we now have a huge hole, often over 1,000 feet across, which, as envisioned by Dr. Teller, could be used to create canals. The Soviets actually experimented with this method to seal gas leaks during the 1960s and '70s.

If this takes place under the sea floor (which has never been done before), there are bound to be complications. First, there would be the release of dangerous, water-soluble chemicals such as radioactive iodine, strontium, and cesium, which would contaminate the food chain in the Gulf. Second, the "seal" created by the glassified sand is probably unstable. And third, it might actually make the problem worse, creating many mini leaks on the ocean floor. Determining the precise effect of such an underwater blast would depend on crucial computer simulations of the various layers of rock under the seafloor, which has never been done before.

In other words, this would bea huge science experiment, with unintended consequences. Furthermore, with hurricane season upon us, and predictions of eight or more hurricanes for this season, it means that seawater several hundred feet below the surface of the water could be churned up and then deposited over the South. This seawater, containing oils and radioactive fission products, would magnify the environmental problem.

In summary, it is not a good idea to use nukes to seal up oil leaks.

dyna mo 06-19-2010 02:59 PM

i won't bother with the international issues that would result from violating treaties, etc from exploding a nuclear weapon in the gulf of mexico, that would probably pop the 1 brain cell mcfaggin has.

GAMEFINEST 06-19-2010 03:18 PM

his a moron..

GregE 06-19-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17263472)
So what? It's not like he can do anything to plug the oil leak.

Yeah, he's kinda proved that already.

It might be a good idea for him to avoid being photographed having fun in the vicinity of large bodies of water however.

_Richard_ 06-19-2010 03:24 PM

he's a dick, but who cares about a little boating? at least he can stand there and think about the job that needs to be done on the 'other side of hte pond'

dynastoned 06-19-2010 03:37 PM

http://www.bpoilspillgulf.com/bp-oil...live-feed.html

2 months after this shit happened and its still spewing at the exact same rate it was to begin with. without a care in the world.

ThumbLord 06-19-2010 04:46 PM

give the guy a break, this could be the last time he is able to use his yacht.

















god what an idiot !

dyna mo 06-19-2010 04:55 PM

i want to apologize to mmcfadden.

it's not my style to name call and i try hard not to do so in the real world and on message boards.

i reacted to the name calling with name calling and i apologize.

bronco67 06-19-2010 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263175)
As oil spews in Gulf, BP chief at UK yacht race - Jun 2010

(06-19) 10:06 PDT LONDON, United Kingdom (AP) --


Spokeswoman Sheila Williams said Hayward took a break from overseeing BP efforts to stem the undersea gusher in Gulf of Mexico so he could watch his boat "Bob" participate in the J.P. Morgan Asset Management Round the Island Race.

Wow, dude's so rich he can't even be bothered to drive his own fucking boat. He's like, "hey Jeeves get me some people to drive my fucking boat, bitch!"

Gouge 06-19-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263175)
As oil spews in Gulf, BP chief at UK yacht race - Jun 2010

(06-19) 10:06 PDT LONDON, United Kingdom (AP) --

In what one environmentalist described as "yet another public relations disaster" for embattled energy giant BP, CEO Tony Hayward took time off Saturday to attend a glitzy yacht race around England's Isle of Wight. BP spokespeople rushed to defend Hayward, who has drawn withering criticism as the public face of BP's halting efforts to stop the worst oil spill in U.S. history.

Spokeswoman Sheila Williams said Hayward took a break from overseeing BP efforts to stem the undersea gusher in Gulf of Mexico so he could watch his boat "Bob" participate in the J.P. Morgan Asset Management Round the Island Race. "He's spending a few hours with his family at a weekend. I'm sure that everyone would understand that," Wine said Saturday. "He will be back to deal with the response. It doesn't detract from that at all."

Still, hobnobbing with millionaires and their yachts is likely to be a hard sell in the Gulf, which is struggling to deal with up to 120 million gallons of oil that have escaped from the blown-out well.

LINK

:2 cents: Glad Hayward isn't losing any sleep or anything. We know how hard his life is.

Obama hits golf course with Biden on another hot, humid weekend
By Bridget Johnson - 06/19/10 03:37 PM ET

President Barack Obama hit the golf course Saturday with Vice President Joe Biden.

The White House pool report noted that Obama left at about 1 p.m. for the course at Andrews Air Force base, and his golfing parters included White House Trip Director Marvin Nicholson and David Katz, the energy efficiency campaign manager at the Department of Energy.

Obama left the course shortly before 6 p.m.

Nicholson and Katz, along with Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, joined Obama for four hours of golf last weekend. The Republican National Committee released an ad soon afterward taking aim at Obama's golfing during the ongoing BP oil spill crisis in the Gulf of Mexico.

The temperatures in the Washington, D.C., area Saturday were similar to last weekend, in the low 90s and humid.

Obama attended the Washington Nationals game Friday night wearing a cap for his hometown Chicago White Sox. Sources told the pool reporter that Obama sang "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" and left in the ninth inning, before the White Sox edged out the Nationals 2-1 in the 11th.

LINK

:2 cents: Glad Obama isn't losing any sleep or anything. We know how hard his life is.

maccsta 06-19-2010 05:51 PM

It's always a good day for a sail. Let those meaningless worries drift away!

crazytrini85 06-19-2010 06:24 PM

Obama went to a ball game.

You guys just don't get it. There is a reason 13 countries have been denied to assist in the stopping of this leak and it has nothing to do with The Jones Act. This is about turning an accident into an agenda and pushing through new laws.

Wake up people.

Brujah 06-19-2010 06:26 PM

It doesn't bother me that Obama or BP Ceo plays golf or goes boating. Their individual specific presence 24/7 isn't going to solve anything. They have "experts" working on these problems 24/7. The top guys would only get in the way and distract from the matter at hand.

The Porn Nerd 06-19-2010 06:26 PM

It's actually a Conspiracy, you see: flood the world's oceans with oil and your yacht will go 2.3 knots faster.

PS: Why is the second 't' in 'Thames' silent? Shouldn't it be TH-ames? Tthink about it...

Helix 06-19-2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17263782)
Obama went to a ball game.

You guys just don't get it. There is a reason 13 countries have been denied to assist in the stopping of this leak and it has nothing to do with The Jones Act. This is about turning an accident into an agenda and pushing through new laws.

Wake up people.

Bingo ! We have a winner !

Amputate Your Head 06-19-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17263747)
Obama hits golf course with Biden on another hot, humid weekend
By Bridget Johnson - 06/19/10 03:37 PM ET

President Barack Obama hit the golf course Saturday with Vice President Joe Biden.

The White House pool report noted that Obama left at about 1 p.m. for the course at Andrews Air Force base, and his golfing parters included White House Trip Director Marvin Nicholson and David Katz, the energy efficiency campaign manager at the Department of Energy.

Obama left the course shortly before 6 p.m.

Nicholson and Katz, along with Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, joined Obama for four hours of golf last weekend. The Republican National Committee released an ad soon afterward taking aim at Obama's golfing during the ongoing BP oil spill crisis in the Gulf of Mexico.

The temperatures in the Washington, D.C., area Saturday were similar to last weekend, in the low 90s and humid.

Obama attended the Washington Nationals game Friday night wearing a cap for his hometown Chicago White Sox. Sources told the pool reporter that Obama sang "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" and left in the ninth inning, before the White Sox edged out the Nationals 2-1 in the 11th.

LINK

:2 cents: Glad Obama isn't losing any sleep or anything. We know how hard his life is.

Obama isn't the CEO of the company that is poisoning the Gulf, but Hayward is. :)

Gouge 06-19-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263826)
Obama isn't the CEO of the company that is poisoning the Gulf, but Hayward is. :)

But he is the one who appointed Elizabeth Birnbaum to over see Minerals Management Service who gave Deep-water Horizon a clean bill of health for safety before the accident. According to Barry himself anything that goes on under his watch is his responsibility...but why bore you with facts right?

mmcfadden 06-19-2010 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17263220)
you are a wealth of bad/incorrect info.

do you see where my point was coming from?

I accept your apology but I have my thoughts... you have yours. I will choose to listen to what I want, and you will as well.

But my statement comes from somewhere and not from the 5 oclock news but rather what makes sense in my head.

roly 06-20-2010 03:54 AM

the guy's entitled to have a day off with his son. the fisherman in the gulf have got the whole year off.

dyna mo 06-20-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 17264106)
do you see where my point was coming from?

I accept your apology but I have my thoughts... you have yours. I will choose to listen to what I want, and you will as well.

But my statement comes from somewhere and not from the 5 oclock news but rather what makes sense in my head.

well, no, i don't see your point in clinging to detonating a nuclear weapon in the gulf of mexico. regardless of whether or not you realize that it's never been done and therefor would be one huge science experiment, i feel that this sort of thinking actually misses the salient points, which are-

how do we make sure this never happens again and how do we move forward on correcting the fiasco down there. fact is, there are 2 relief wells being drilled and when one of them gets there is when the oil will stop, there's simply no other way. did bp mislead everyone about stopping the gusher, yes. trying this, that and the other was all posturing, we all get that. but the important points are self-regulation of the oil industry does not work and there are no contigency plans in place to handle a situation like this.
not to mention that our government is in bed with big business.

those are what we all need to be focused on.

Emil 06-20-2010 07:29 AM

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GregE 06-20-2010 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17264496)
well, no, i don't see your point in clinging to detonating a nuclear weapon in the gulf of mexico. regardless of whether or not you realize that it's never been done and therefor would be one huge science experiment, i feel that this sort of thinking actually misses the salient points, which are-

how do we make sure this never happens again and how do we move forward on correcting the fiasco down there. fact is, there are 2 relief wells being drilled and when one of them gets there is when the oil will stop, there's simply no other way. did bp mislead everyone about stopping the gusher, yes. trying this, that and the other was all posturing, we all get that. but the important points are self-regulation of the oil industry does not work and there are no contigency plans in place to handle a situation like this.
not to mention that our government is in bed with big business.

those are what we all need to be focused on.

You're right about relief wells being the only proven remedy, but most times it takes more than one attempt and sometimes more than that before a leak can be stopped.

Waiting until August (or thereabouts) to see if either of the two relief wells presently being drilled can stop the leak makes sense.

But what if they both fail?

In that event, we'll be looking at Christmas before another relief well can be completed and, based on everything I've read, they'll be nothing left to save by then.

When a patient's heart stops beating on the operating table a good surgeon will throw caution to the wind and try anything and everything to keep him alive.

Don't be so surprised if Obama okay's a nuclear detonation in the event that the first two relief wells fail.

Amputate Your Head 06-20-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17264672)

Don't be so surprised if Obama okay's a nuclear detonation in the event that the first two relief wells fail.

It will never happen. Obama isn't going to disregard the advice of every physicist on the planet. Nuking that shit will take it from horrible to unimaginable.

Vendzilla 06-20-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17263374)
waiting for a TeaBagger apologist to straighten out the Libsss on this issue....

Obama called this in from the golf course
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius (Post 17263531)
Ok, what do you propose he do?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263534)
His job.

LIke Obama from the golf course?
Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord (Post 17263694)
give the guy a break, this could be the last time he is able to use his yacht.

















god what an idiot !

Like Obama, he has more pressing things to do

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 17263747)
Obama hits golf course with Biden on another hot, humid weekend
By Bridget Johnson - 06/19/10 03:37 PM ET

President Barack Obama hit the golf course Saturday with Vice President Joe Biden.

The White House pool report noted that Obama left at about 1 p.m. for the course at Andrews Air Force base, and his golfing parters included White House Trip Director Marvin Nicholson and David Katz, the energy efficiency campaign manager at the Department of Energy.

Obama left the course shortly before 6 p.m.

Nicholson and Katz, along with Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, joined Obama for four hours of golf last weekend. The Republican National Committee released an ad soon afterward taking aim at Obama's golfing during the ongoing BP oil spill crisis in the Gulf of Mexico.

The temperatures in the Washington, D.C., area Saturday were similar to last weekend, in the low 90s and humid.

Obama attended the Washington Nationals game Friday night wearing a cap for his hometown Chicago White Sox. Sources told the pool reporter that Obama sang "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" and left in the ninth inning, before the White Sox edged out the Nationals 2-1 in the 11th.

LINK

:2 cents: Glad Obama isn't losing any sleep or anything. We know how hard his life is.

Glad to see some people get all the news
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85 (Post 17263782)
Obama went to a ball game.

You guys just don't get it. There is a reason 13 countries have been denied to assist in the stopping of this leak and it has nothing to do with The Jones Act. This is about turning an accident into an agenda and pushing through new laws.

Wake up people.

pretty much Obama doesn't give a shit
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17263785)
It doesn't bother me that Obama or BP Ceo plays golf or goes boating. Their individual specific presence 24/7 isn't going to solve anything. They have "experts" working on these problems 24/7. The top guys would only get in the way and distract from the matter at hand.

And when their experts come up with anything, they can take a break then
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17263826)
Obama isn't the CEO of the company that is poisoning the Gulf, but Hayward is. :)

Obama is the CEO of a country
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17264679)
It will never happen. Obama isn't going to disregard the advice of every physicist on the planet. Nuking that shit will take it from horrible to unimaginable.

Russia used a nuke 5 times, it worked 4 times

Amputate Your Head 06-20-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17264699)
Obama called this in from the golf course



LIke Obama from the golf course?


Like Obama, he has more pressing things to do


Glad to see some people get all the news

pretty much Obama doesn't give a shit

And when their experts come up with anything, they can take a break then

Obama is the CEO of a country


Russia used a nuke 5 times, it worked 4 times

1. Obama didn't cause this leak, BP did.
2. Obama is the President and as such has many, many other things to focus on as well.
3. Hayward only has one thing to do right now... fix the leak and clean up his mess.
4. Obama is doing what he's supposed to be doing. He got BP to fork $20 billion to an escrow account, he's visited the region several times, he's spoken to the country more than once. I'd say that's progress. What progress has Hayward made?
5. Russia never nuked a gushing oil leak 5000 feet below the surface of the ocean, and when every physicist is warning against it, I'm going to side with the physicists, not some story about Russia.

dyna mo 06-20-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17264672)
Don't be so surprised if Obama okay's a nuclear detonation in the event that the first two relief wells fail.

there's simply no way a nuclear weapon can be detonated in the gulf, aside from the fact it would be an experiment, just how would we snub the nuclear treaties? no neighboring country would sit back and let the u.s. go forward willy nilly with a nuke.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17264699)

Russia used a nuke 5 times, it worked 4 times

see amputate's comment below, it's never been done. i'm surprised you state this ven, i thought you were better read than that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17264709)
5. Russia never nuked a gushing oil leak 5000 feet below the surface of the ocean, and when every physicist is warning against it, I'm going to side with the physicists, not some story about Russia.


Linguist 06-20-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden View Post
I believe the old man that said the oil will leak for 40 years if they don't nuke it already...
Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17263220)
you are a wealth of bad/incorrect info.

Well, with your wealth of good/correct info, the oil is still spilling.

While nuking may not be the best course of action, go read that article on the oil drum about possible consequences of this. Relief wells only have about 60% chance of working due to structural damage below seafloor.

They said it'll take about 30 years for the well to deplete and there's not much we can do about it.

dyna mo 06-20-2010 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linguist (Post 17264752)
Well, with your wealth of good/correct info, the oil is still spilling.

While nuking may not be the best course of action, go read that article on the oil drum about possible consequences of this. Relief wells only have about 60% chance of working due to structural damage below seafloor.

They said it'll take about 30 years for the well to deplete and there's not much we can do about it.

what do you mean? where did i say a relief well has a 100% success rate? or even a 90% or 60% or any statistical outcome.

i'll answer for you- i didn't.


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