Interesting ...... :thumbsup


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I would not go as far as to say "much" of the nutrients are destroyed. I would say that sum may be destroyed in the higher RPM process. But keep in mind, you also destroy brain cells when you sneeze.

From what i read and researched you are technically correct. Thats why the slow "Auger" style juicers are preferred. But with what you are drinking in a full glass of juice, you are getting more vitamins, minerals and nutrients than your body can process at one time. What your body doesn't process and use, it will piss out of your system. Think about when you take B12 vitamins and then you go to the bathroom. You piss out florescent yellow, because your body cant processes all of it.


I definitely love your input and value your opinion when it comes to Juicing.

Dont like the taste of V8 or V8 splash. I like the control when it comes to making things taste the way i want it to taste. If its to blan, i add apples, grapes or oranges to it. If its too sweet, i can add celery, or any green vegetables too it. The unlimited combinations that i can make with a juicer is the appeal over buying a V8.

I agree with you. I love eating fruit as is. I did not buy this Juicer for fruit consumption,(thats what my girl uses it for though). I use the fruit to make all of the green vegetables more palatable. If you juice a bunch of green vegetables and don't add any fruits, it will taste like shit. You add an apple or orange to that same drink, it actually tastes really good.

In short, i use fruits to make the green vegetables go down easy, because i couldn't deal with the taste of spinach, celery or broccoli juice alone.



Yea, in your small world you would be right, but you would also be the same guy looking at my Presidential Rolex and say "you could have gotten a Timex cheaper".:2 cents:

This looks like a great way to get your daily dosage of fruits and veggies. If you ever have the time, check out this documentary:

http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Trut.../dp/B001J66JQ8

It talks a lot about the effects of juicing and a plant based diet in regards to thwarting cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc.

I've now got this product bookmark'd. Thanks OP.

Oh, so you just like throwing money down the shitter for the hell of it.

A $10 citizen watch would do the same job as your presidential rolex (if not better)

though you have a point.... investing in rolexes and juicers are two way different things...

Cheap juicers are pieces of shit. Even $100 ones are pieces of shit. If you're going to buy one, buy one that works.

You maroons

Try this

Soda is a serious mother fucker. When i drink it, i seem to crave it that much more. When i cut it out, after 2 weeks, i never seem to crave it. When i drink soda, my thing is Diet Pepsi.

Drink lots of water, it will do you wonders.:thumbsup

Great link, thanks for sharing.:thumbsup

Way agree with you.:thumbsup

ive been thinking of eating raw grass fed beef.. i dont have the balls to taste it... any tips???

blender is the way to go. I'm not as consistent. However, I go a couple times a week. Strawberries, blue berries, oat meal, raspberries, banana, and some ice. :thumbsup

A lot of times you can use the leftovers in tasty recipes like pancakes. It works especially well for strawberries/blueberries/etc.

I've done shots of it. No big deal, you've paid to drink worse, I am sure.

I have an excellent Kenwood juicer, 850W that looks exactly like the one OP bought.
No problems with it. It makes prefect juices and can process pretty much anything i throw at it. It cost a bit less than $100.

850W vs 1200W . . . I don't care what it is, vacuum cleaner, stereo, juicer, 1200 > 850.

Need better argument than that. Looks are not everything.

Best thread of the month. I've been training like I used to and have been having trouble with gnawing down all the green carbs and fiber I need now without cooking it & adding unwanted fat & sugar and denaturing it all to hell.

Where did you get this juicer? And where did you get the bottles that take out the air?

Also, how long out of the juicer is the juice still good? Do you need to refridgerate it? Can it survive a fannypack/backpack or the hot sun? If I eat another gel or protien bar I'm gonna yak.

You have to eat it with some fat. What I usually do is chop up the raw meat and mix it with a chopped up avocado. Sometimes I eat it with raw cultured butter or even fresh pressed flax seed oil. You need the fat so the meat digests properly. Don't eat bread or anything else with it. Wait about an hour and eat veggies or even better, drink fresh veggie juice made from veggies grown in small quanites buy organic farmers so you get the most nutrition. Before drinking the veggie juice you should actually eat a few carrots or any other whole veggie so you get some more fiber and also the chewing signals your body to get ready to digest food. At minimum get the Greenstar juicer. Fat will burn off your body even if you don't really work out much. More than likely you will have too much energy and will have to go out for runs just to burn off all the excess energy as if you are a 12 year old kid. So you question about getting up the nerve to eat raw meat is to just think about getting that youthful power back. This should be enough motivation for just about anyone over 30.

I hardly ever eat raw beef, just buffalo hearts, inside round, and sometimes liver. But when I run out I head to Whole Foods and buy the NY strip grass feed beef. I don't get the same rush but at least I am not eating off my diet. I never eat meat that has been frozen or is not grass fed ass the nutrition is lower and it tastes like dog shit.

Another thing you can do is eat raw eggs from chickens that are fed sprouts, greens, seeds etc. Dpn't bother with any brand that is sold in a supermarket. You have to go to the farmers for these AAA+++ eggs This is a really fast meail if you are busy. If you think raw eggs taste gross then the eggs are most likely low quality. The ones I eat don't have any funky taste at all. You should never refrigerate eggs. They keep perfectly fine at room temp for about 3 weeks after the hen lays it. I usually eat mine no more than a week after they have been laid.

I help people out with this diet and ask for nothing in reteurn. I helped out one of the guys from a major program last year because he was in his 30's, with kids, and felt burnt out to the point he was a worried about his future. After a few months of working with him he was a new person. Good luck to you!

I already eat raw pasture eggs...

the problem is the grassfed raw meat.. i know its good just need to get brave enough to eat it.. what have u noticed since eating raw diet?

Yes eat it ground.
Used to eat small portions of ground pork sausage as a kid.
In hindsight knowing how dangerous that can be with bacteria would not do it today. But as far as taste its not bad.

Fuck it just put it in your mouth and chew. If it tastes gross then the meat is not fresh enough. You eat sushi right? Well really fresh grass fed beef tastes as good as fresh raw fish does.

As far as your question as what have I noticed from a raw diet....... I go on and off my diet. I usually go off my diet due to social reasons. When my GF and I are over and friends I don't bust out the raw food, I eat the same as the people around me. Going on and off the diet is still good but to get the full effect you need to get as close to 100% raw diet as you are able. What happens to me when I am strict is:

1. about 1,000% more energy
2. mental clarity
3. build muscle much faster
4. burn off fat
5. Want actual sex all day long (not just jerking off). I get the urge to stop being lazy and instead of just rubbing one out I feel motivated enough to spend hours pounding my GF.
6. Just feel more powerful as a person in general. When I was single I would eat a buffalo heart before going out to pick up on women.

It is very difficult to stay on the diet. Even I go off it sometimes for months.

Dude... gnarly. Sold. Where is the best place to buy raw meat fresh enough?

i love juices too

here is the gold http://www.northstarbison.com/ but I guess you are in SoCal so I can turn you on to a place to buy small amounts. Check your email.

*******, thanks for the posts/information.


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my pleasure, good night!

So, I bought a Juicer...

and 3 days later are you still using it or is it no longer a novelty in a similar way to 99% of all home gym equipment only gets used once?

Great info, thanx for sharing.


Nope, still juicing. I really research things before i do them or buy them. This was a 4 week process before i started it. Never was into the home gym thing, but i have had my 24 hour fitness membership for about 22 years. Does that count? I pay about $25 a year.

I have a 2 1/2 year old daughter and i am about to have a son in August, not dying has become a serious health motivator.:thumbsup

That gym membership is cheap!

Think my brother is paying £80 A MONTH.

I got a few questions man.. how do i hit u up

I have access to all of the 24 hour fitnesses across the US. I paid in full for 3 years up front with a cheap yearly renewal. It was about $500 i payed up front. They do it like that thinking that people will just not go and not bother renewing. If you miss a renewal, you lost the cheap yearly rate.


I bet there are a few here that roughly have the same deal.

haha my friend has that juicer, he loves it.

Was prepared to order it online when I discovered they have a store in Manhattan Beach. $50 cheaper and no shipping costs, so I will save $100 +/-

haha yes good point
my juicer just stands there now and collects dust..

I had a killer $50 a year Golds Gym membership but switched Gyms to train people at and had to cancel my credit card because LA Fitness charged us trainers $300 a month to train people there and I couldn't get out of the contract and lost my yearly cheap renewal.

Some Gym memberships are better than a hotel or even a house: The TV is always on but you can't sit down and watch it, you gotta be on a machine. The water, gas, cable and electricity is always on and air conditioning always works. You can shower, shave, work out, swim, tan, and be there 18 hours a day and never get kicked out! Alot of Gyms even have yearly locker rentals, bars & lounges, resteraunts, daycare, and pet boarding as well. Someday I'll live in an RV and the gym and keep my money in the bank where it belongs.

Dave - you never said where you got your juicer or the airtight bottles or if the juice keeps in the heat. I had these backpacking containers like toothpast tubes that you squeeze food out of, will that work for storage & quick consumption?

I got the exact same one a few months ago. It's awesome. Farmer's Market is your friend. Oranges are super cheap when you buy them 20 pounds at a time. The high speed stuff like carrots I notice leak out a little bit. I put a paper towel to the side before I put the locking clamp down. Otherwise the wall is splattered with carrot.

There is a much better juicer that uses a press technique that is supposed to get a lot more mineral content but it was like $2400.

Awesome. The William Sonoma store is where i went. They are at all of the major malls. I bet you can find it at the Del Amo Mall. Let me know how it works out for you. Carrot, celery, apple and orange is a great combo!!!





Cheap gym memberships are pretty trick if you can keep them.

I got my Juicer at William Sonoma. They are the only one that have the 1300 watt one. Its exclusive to them only. The 1000 watt one you can find $100 cheaper and pick it up at Bed Bath and Beyond with a %20 mailer coupon and save an additional $60.


In short both work well, i just went for the 1300 watt one. I am loving it. Juice all through the day the last 4 days. If you were into your health before, this will be easy for you and will really make sense too. ICQ me any time you have any questions, will be glad to offer any advice.:thumbsup

The Manhattan store sucked. I called them and they said they had it, but when I got there I discovered was not the same thing at all. Single disc, 1000W, same price of $399.

I just came home and ordered it online. We will have to trade recipes once I get started. ;)

Wheatgrass.

by posting your email

I just mowed my lawn... I'll save it for you. Yuk! You can't even plug your nose and shoot that shit like liquor because if you lift finger from one nostril - it's a technicolor yawn all over Jamba Juice.