Agreed 100%.

It is true this place over emphasizes things.

Any affils now days prob know who sells as well as the prog owners themselves and arent promoting most of those now going under. Most dont go under overnight.

Trini, I bet all those closing are prob not being promoted anyhow. And please :) noone who sells is dropping the affil model unless they flunked Business 101. :) You cant convince me or 488 of that. :)

BF, you have been anti affil since day one :)

nobody according to the mayans

What's the probability of MasterCard/Visa cracking down on rebilling for "high risk" category transactions like online adult?

What would the effect be, long term and short term, on the industry?

:)

Sly, we all know that people like Don have no clue about the industry in a grand scale. Him simply using "big pps programs", "weg", "perfect gonzo", "quickbuck", "rehab dollars" and "adult profit" in the same sentence completely disqualifies him as a knowledgable person in adult in my oppinion...

The least you should know is who the big players are that actually CAN afford the high PPS. Small programs with very little exclusive content and small member base can simply not support high PPS without heavy cross sells. Big programs however definately can do so without heavy cross sells...

How many program owners or webmasters in general do you know who actually know anything about business? Not many. They all got lucky and rode the luck and timing train in the industry. Now that it takes some business mind to run a business, they are failing.

Most people in this business flunked business 101. :2 cents:

Thanks for the information. I like this idea.

Does the "$xxx bonuses on every x sale" work? :2 cents:

LOL That's funny :) Well if that is true then we are indeed in trouble.

Anyhow not arguing. Whenever someone says "affils are dieing ect ect" I show up with my litle speech. BF shows up and says his little :2 cents: that they are. And life goes on.. just a little more time wasted. :)

So I am no longer knee jerk on that topic. Sheesh.

We are all so predictable. :)

I just know I am starting this month real slow but I did the same thing last month. Then took off on the 4th.

I am starting to believe in that batch processing theory someone had.

Hmmm interesting conclusion.

The decline in the Adult Internet started long before the recession. That just made it worse. Will those lost to free porn come back to paying?

The guys who can't afford $30 a month are a small percentage. Tubes are still surviving so someones spending money on "Adult" or they would be falling as well.

So will those who can't afford $30 a month come back to buying porn? Not unless we give them a very good reason to come back.

Very true. Most people in this business had very little clue about the porn business and the product. They know how to program a site and send traffic. As for business 101, most never took that class. :1orglaugh

How much income is from people who signed up and forgot about being members for months after months? Yes very little. They're members who are consuming the product. If they don't rebill they will on another site. So it will mean more leave as more join.

Well, my friends, it's time to promote a Program that's on the RISE - PeabodyCash! We're actually GROWING and making more for our affiliates then ever so check US out and then complain. LOL :)

we still pay $75 PPS, up to $5 per free

Lets go back to 99 and i would be happy, wait what, tubes cant go back, o fuck, we are fucked

$30 - $35 pps is a payout that we can sustain for the forceable future.
It helps to have years worth of recurring...

Fear and self-loathing in Michigan.