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directfiesta 07-06-2010 06:10 PM

He is a very bad man ...

What's next ... leaking presidential info on a breakin of a political party ...

Bad man he is indeed ..


PS: can I post a nazi swastika here ?

directfiesta 07-06-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17312719)
The way I understood it, Reuters was TRYING to get access to the video via a FOIA request and were denied. AFAIK nobody had it before wikileaks released it.

oh ... so it materialized and got encoded by a miracle ... Immaculate conception, part 2

djswivle 07-06-2010 06:13 PM

nothing going to happen to him

Sharky 07-06-2010 08:34 PM

these soldiers clearly thought those guys were armed. You guys are judging based on video from a single event. These soldiers were obviously concerned and probably in an area where other attacks on soldiers have been carried out. From the distance they couldn't tell a camera from a weapon.

I think its very tragic, and one of the horrific side effects of war. But it is war and mistakes do happen. Soldiers who have been fired upon in the past, are probably not too eager to be fired upon again. They are human.

The soldier who leaked the video should be tried accordingly for leaking a confidential video.

Poindexterity 07-06-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17312656)
sounds like a true patriot to me. US needs less sheeple and more people like this.

what you said.

_Richard_ 07-06-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17315028)
I agree with you on how things are not working out the way we want them to. But its hard to plan a war and have it go the way you want it to go.

I understand that, but i am more talking about an attitude shift on a 'conditioning' level. Being completely explanatory, Americans generally have an, attitude, when it comes to dealing with people not American. I have seen examples of that attitude getting in the way of communication with the people billions are being spent to 'win over'.

hard getting the trust of someone while you 'disrespect' them etc.


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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17315028)
Common sense? Orders and objective is how these solders are trained. Kill, Kill, Kill or be killed. Follow orders, and complete the objectives. Don't ask questions do what you are ordered to do. "No Ifs, and, or buts".

Do i think that is right?? Doesn't matter what i think. It does seem to work towards the over all objective. Which is??? Not sure, but killing a lot of people must lead to something right? lol

These guys see death day in and day out. They see and experience things that nobody will ever experience. Laugh? Sometimes that is all you can do.

While i agree with you regarding orders, and personally i sit on the fence in regards to this issue based on security, but these events are very effective at making sure a population will always stay angry and always revolt.

even to this day, there is bombs going off in Iraq and you guys are trying to pull out

maybe if one less tank rolled over a civilians car, one less rape... that would have been one more American soldier going home

worth finding out anyway.

Dirty Dane 07-07-2010 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17315046)
The civilian courts cannot protect him from a military Court Martial. It is military law that he violated....in addition there was not a "war crime" committed.

When I was in military many years ago, we learned that taking out the enemy by injury was better strategy than killing them, because then we could wait for more soldiers to arrive and shoot at them too. But that didn't include civilians, kids and driving over people when the place were secured.

But ok... it's US soldiers and they "can't" commit a crime... right? We should only applaud when the leaks are coming from China, Iran or Somalia...

There are international courts and it should go there if he is life time jailed for something that wasn't even a military secret. This is about politic and our moral, not security. It's the military that need better disciplinary, not him.

Coup 07-07-2010 03:59 AM

http://collateralmurder.com/

If you can watch that and honestly say what you just saw wasn't criminal then you're fucked in the head.

It's pretty clear those soldiers have been there way too long and have become blood thirsty animals. And the people of Iraq and afghanistan are paying the price for it.

bring 'em home. let's stop killing innocent people.

EliteWebmaster 07-07-2010 04:10 AM

This is bullshit, he should not be charged. Although that is one good way to get his ass back to the states where he belongs. Our troops need to come home. End of story.

seeandsee 07-07-2010 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 17312515)
Is he right or wrong, in sharing this with the rest of the world ?

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/07/06...-video/?hpt=T1

Yes, he has sworn allegiance to the Flag etc. but is there a grey area here ? The publics right to know ?

fuck cnn vidoe player is fucked, can't see the shit

Sandokan 07-07-2010 05:05 AM

There is no such a crime in the war.........It`s WAR. Watch your head!!! Especially for the muslims....OHHHH, They are so fucked up you shouldn`t have a mercy for them

Jman 07-07-2010 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharky (Post 17315305)
these soldiers clearly thought those guys were armed. You guys are judging based on video from a single event. These soldiers were obviously concerned and probably in an area where other attacks on soldiers have been carried out. From the distance they couldn't tell a camera from a weapon.

I think its very tragic, and one of the horrific side effects of war. But it is war and mistakes do happen. Soldiers who have been fired upon in the past, are probably not too eager to be fired upon again. They are human.

The soldier who leaked the video should be tried accordingly for leaking a confidential video.

If these guys where armed wouldn't they have fired at the chopper... Honestly Sharky not 1 single shot was fired at the troops during this mission on the video.

I will say it again, this is Manslaughter...


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