If i didnt really know him and he put a 500 dollar chip in my hand, I would have threw it back in front of him and walked away.

That's fucked up... although I do think you should NEVER have made that joke. That's just asking to get fucked, especially in this industry. That kinda gives him a free pass, especially since you were drunk and there's nobody here to back your story up.

I suggest you get this thread removed. I think Dwreck will pay you back, plus this will put both Dwreck AND you in a bad spotlight. Everyone obviously has a different opinion about this.

Good luck :2 cents:

This is all irrelevant,

I don't care if he doesn't gamble

I don't care if he thought that I'm serious when I fucked with him when I was drunk, yes I use to be overly sarcastic

- He kept the money and went to the airport without getting in touch, he had my cell number

- he promised to pay back in January 2008 the day after when I called him

- Then it took me another eight months of bullshit excuses to strip him off the $ 350

- Now he wants a "payment plan" for $ 150 28 months later

And he's even posting personal insults

These are the facts

The consequences of this thread will never... be... the same. END of conversation! :mad:

you should be the last one speculating about things like this. :2 cents:

this thread is about someone who has admitted that he needs to give money back, promised to do so for countless times and failed to do so. who makes payment plans for $150, doesn't keep them and then goes and buys a laptop.

lets drink! :)

Best reply through the whole 3 pages...

I'm reallllly drunk, anyone want $500? I'm just kidding. Maybe. Kinda. Not really. But perhaps just a little.

oh no Carlos....

$150 is $150.

A lot of money has been made and lost in this industry and the people that have lost it all are usually the one's that had the "$150 is nothing" attitude.

There are a lot of people that end up dying wealthy who never found it above themselves to bend over and pick a penny up off the ground.

That and the principle of it all.

One thing that's missing - I knew DWreck personally for like two years already once that happened, I trusted him, especially since he was connected in the past with someone I respect a lot.

So let's say an industry "friend" comes over to you, grabs a $ 500 chip, you shoot a joke with him, and then you try to get that money from him for 28 months.

Finishing with a "payment plan" for $ 150

That's also a way to paraphrase it.

I'm off gotta drive downtown

Dude, someone in the industry took 11k from me i didnt make a thread about it, Just Yet. Cmon now

Learn to read and comprehend. :2 cents:

The ONLY thing that is obvious is that you enjoy speculating. :2 cents:

My bad, obviously it was you who was there, and I wasn't. Clearly you know the score.

Let's all just sit down around the campfire now and have old man baddog whip us up a tale of power, intrigue and money involving two program reps at the 2008 Internext.

I'm in so long as there are s'mores.

Wow, you are a cunt. It is really funny to me how you brag about how you are an expert in promoting cam sites yet you can barely pay your rent and you fuck over friends like this over such small amounts of money. Even funnier when I look at your resume. Spread4u was a piece of shit and only marginally successful because of how long ago the site launched and your new gig... The most hyped cam site with next to no live models that I have ever seen.

There are so many "experts" on this forum that are totally full of shit. I could out a couple scumbags right now that would open some eyes.

This reminds me of the movie 'Payback' with crazy Mel Gibson.....

It is $150 bucks.. He got $350 back from him at somepoint.


Everyone keeps saying $500, read the complete ran :)

jman is a fat clown. no one cares what he thinks.

This thread is very surprising and I dont know Carlos, but this dosnt sound like Dwreck at all.

Well cept leaving for airports early :winkwink:

If anything he has bought me beers and never taken nor asked for money.

Now im not his best fucking friend... but I do feel knowing what I know and reading this thread that Dwreck is not to blame fully here.

Carlos. You too are to blame as your drunken joke is what got you here. If quagmire says he was there and you initiated this whole incident then you should have kept this private and worked it out. Plus, if you did sit there and say here have this, no keep it I have made plenty... IF.... If you said that... then where the fuck do you stand at all on this?

Do i think Dwreck should keep the money, no... but should you get it when you want it? Fuck no! None of this would have happened if it werent for your weird euro "humor"

You say its about character and not the money... well you fucked up because you have assassinated both of your characters to an extent here.


Im only going on the assumption of Quagmires story as it seems he was present and it also dosnt reflect Dwrecks characteristics...

well then solve it with a 20 dollar per week payment plan and ring in 2011 as bros.

So fucking banned?

I don't get why do you even get emotional about this? It's very clear:

- if he doesn't understand I was being sarcastic once he grabbed $ 500 bucks out of my handpalm that's his problem

- He promised to pay me the day after this happened, and I was looking for him on the same night, since he obviously didn't get the joke OR tried to keep the money, the result - he didn't get in touch nor did he try to return them, do you find it funny?

Do you fuck with your friend's money ? Is it funny?

- fucked with me for 8 months until I met him personally and stripped him off all cash he had on himself

- fucked with me for another 20 months resulting in a "payment plan" for $ 150

- money not received

Those are the facts

Are you serious, should I wait for another 28 months or make a payment plan for $ 5 a month so he can buy himself another MacBook?

Ok so I'm to blame if I want to out a guy who's not able to pay back a personal loan in 28 months and constantly fucks with me?

Christ

Good for you, since you obviously choose to ignore the facts

FYI I read it all very carefully.
YOU should re read it
The issue is about 500 and the way it was handled by the person that owed it

There was a very personal information posted by DWreck in this thread regarding a death of beloved one on my side.

I've asked GFY to edit it

It's really painful

Thanks

Sounds like stupid drunken situation to me Carlos. Trust me I know because I've been in a few, but to drag it all out here on GFY over $150 is pretty embarrassing. And the ass kissers of GFY can kiss MY ass. I call it how I see it.

You are absolutely right about it being out of character for Dwreck, and again, I just want to be clear on a few things for the GFY peanut gallery.

1> Dwreck is not my best friend. I Have not seen Dwreck in person since my last day of employment at webcamcash in early 08. Not from lack of want, but I live in bumblefuck north, and Toronto is not my favorite place so I rarely make trips there.

2> I have absolutely zero to gain by playing Dwreck's bro and lying about what went down. 90% of my webmaster work is mainstream these days. I have no current business relationship with Dwreck or the company he represents. I don't even touch cams anymore because of the silly chargeback games 3 & 4 months down the road, for me it just is not worth the effort.

3> I have no beef with Carlos in any way, shape or form. Never have. I have met him at numerous shows, and gotten shitfaced loaded with him and had a great time. I am disappointed that he brought this issue to the board, nothing more.

4> If someone wants to call me a liar, there isn't a thing I can do to stop them from jumping in the thread and saying what they want. The people who matter know my credibility.

Money received half an hour ago

After 20 months

Seems like even DWreck doesn't need a "payment plan" for $ 150

I'm gonna donate this money to cancer research

After all the shit I had to go through, even getting ridiculed for outing someone, getting ridiculed for wanting my money

Christ, yeah, calm down it's just GFY

Did you read the thread already?

No beef, you brought in something I didn't remember

I give you credit for that

But it doesn't change the fact that someone fucked with me for 28 months and the last straw was the "payment plan" for $ 150

Those money are not enough for an apology, I won't even spend them, I'm gonna donate them.

most ppl a full of shit when it comes to how much $ they have

I understand your dilema Carlos. But you are biased to it and IM standing on the outside.

Never has Dwreck shown character like this... unless im oblivious to it. I implore people to speak out if so.

Since you arent the fullest aware oif your actions Im going with Quagmire's recount. He said Dwreck tried to give it back not once but multiple times on the spot.

If someone 'pushed' a 500 chip at me repeatedly you bet id take it.


this may not be the case, but its what I see sop far.




I do understand if I wqas owed money and I hear about the ower buying shit and sporting it... it would tick me off. But Id be more ticked at myself for making a thread like this If im the one that initiated it by "making a joke" during a drunken night of gambling.

Im not saying it like this because i know Dwreck and not you... IM no Bro :winkwink: It is my unbiased opinion.... of which you do not have. YOure talking Facts when you arent even giving them all out.

Also I never said any of this was funny.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I don't remember Dwreck ever saying he was a pimp or a baller, or has lots of money :2 cents:

This didn't happen, or if it happened we knew each other for two years prior, he could also realize I'm drunk

It's not the case, how do you imply this happened?

If someone's dumb enough not to understand that $ 500 is never a joke I have no sympathy for him

If someone's dumb enough to think he can fuck with me for 28 months without returning me the money, I have no sympathy for him

Fact no.1 - promised to pay back the day after this happened

Fact no.2 - fucked with me 8 months with bullshit excuses, till I got to meet him personally in Florida to get all the cash he had on himself which was $ 350

Fact. no.3 - fucked with me for another 20 months resulting in a "payment plan" for $ 150 which was the last straw

Fact. no. 4 - didn't pay even crappy $ 50

The low amount of money in this case is what makes me bring it to the boards.

Seriously

Fact no. 5 - he sent me $ 150 half an hour ago, which obviously means he could have used paypal and pay anytime during the past 28 months

If $ 150 is too much for him all I ask is not to spit in my face with bullshit "payment plans" and excuses, if he would say I need the money man I'm gonna give it to him and laugh at him anytime I'd see him

And if it lasts for two and a half year, I have no sympathy nor regret I did this

Seriously

From a complete stranger? Sure.

From a colleague, who was so drunk you couldn't even make out what he was saying? No.

I remember him saying he needs a "payment plan" for $ 150 that I received half an hour ago after just 20 months, I'm so disgusted with this already

Off for today.

:thumbsup

As I said, I am not questioning whether the money should have been returned, and since I don't dislike either of you and don't have a horse in this race, I don't want to even get involved in that side of the conversation. My chief concern was that people were getting the impression that Dwreck was some sort of lowlife pickpocket who walked off with your money.

Given the circumstances and mindset of both of you (totally fucking wrecked) at the time of the incident, I would tell both of you to chalk it up to 'stupid shit that happened when I was drunk' and move on. If it would make you feel better and you'd like to blame me for not slapping you both in the head for being stupid, feel free. I apologize for not intervening when something stupid was going down between two drunks. :upsidedow

edit - I would have paid off his debt to you in a heartbeat had I known it still existed. Not that it is really anyone's business, but Dwreck is not the best with his finances, but he will always make good on what he owes. That I know for a fact.

One last thing - if I were overseas I'd go and solve this personally same way how I did it in Florida two years ago, you'd never heard about this and he would be happily pushing his cams.

But if he has the balls to fuck with me online over and over and over, and a "payment plan" and total bullshit..

Sorry I have zero tolerance for this, I was patient enough with him

Would you wait for two and a half years? I did

I Was wondering what true beauty was...until I realized it was myself

Dude. this is how drunk both of them were. I can't be any more clear than this.

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