He was definitely employed between Jan 2008 and August 2008, if that's not enough for him to pay back $ 500 I have my very own thoughts about him, moreover if he had the guts to come over to me in August and give me back the rest of the loan all would be clear, yet he blew it on drinks and partying with girls, so I ended up chasing silly $ 150 for long months

He wasn't able to pay me in 28 months untill I called him out - how do you call that? A problematic lender?

He was definitely employed from Jan 2008 tilll Aug 2008 and he definitely bought himself a macbook two weeks ago, that's enough to know for me

You know, if someone promises to pay you and doesn't, I have no more sympathy, and if you call him fucking with me for 28 months "loan sharking" then I'm really out of arguments

If he lived around the block I'd get my money on the day HE promised to pay that, no excuses, but I'm not gonna fly to Toronto to chase him for beer money, so I was senteced to endless months of more and more bullshit and payment plans and macbooks sorry


Really? You seem to care

It's not a bullshit skewed story, he took my money, kept it, and was unable to pay back killing me with bullshit excuses

Quagmire added that I was joking with him, and I give him credit for that. But the day after he promised to pay me and was unable to do so for 28 months requesting a payment plan for $ 150 and buying a new macbook.

I don't know how do you feel, but the way I was raised, not paying someone, lying to someone and then even making a jackass from someone is a major insult and not something to laugh about.

He used a very personal information trying to ridicule me, you have a point Keith, but some things you never bring up in public, and I'm very ashamed of myself that I trusted him.

I'll prefer cancer research for my very personal reasons though, thanks for the suggestion.

I'm off for now.

You should try to collect on your debts especially if the person is still in business. The only debts I ever have given up on are the ones when the company is no longer in business like Ibill.

The way you handle your finances or lack of is really irrelevant. While you think you are posting something that makes you sound better than Carlos because you are owed so much and don't bother going after it, I think it makes you look worst than him for not trying to collect your money. GFY is a great debt collecting tool, more people get repaid by outing people here than any debt collection company or even lawsuits.

Carlos was one of the participants, you're a non involved third party, completely different. Yes I can be stubborn when I know I'm right, lets just agree that you're wrong and move on. :winkwink:

I completely agree with that and I do believe I tried to relay that... Im not with Dwreck every step of the way here...
I as well dont have sympathy... that of which is for drunken mistakes... people that skew stories in their favor ... people that dont accept their actions and blame others.

lets not repeat each other over and over instead lets just ask each other the LAST questions and be done with it.

Do you feel youre at fault for any of this?

Do you feel calling someone a thief is worse than posting personal info?

Were you drinking when you made this thread?

Was it really the principle or is that just sheep food?

I as well am stubborn when im right... So obviously youre wrong :winkwink:

Actually I'm just having fun not letting you go to bed.

Oh you have hours to test me there...

My previous good night statement was just an attempt to watch a movie or play nintendo. or layer PB on my balls for some perverted reason.

No, a loan is a loan, if I take money from someone I pay back, not sure why shouldn't he do the same, no matter how you take the money

I've stated my reason why I called him a thief - unable to pay back in 28 months fucking with me and he admitted that

Nope. I've been completely sober through Jan - Aug 2010 while I also made my 90 days intense fitness program

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=966887

and I have a drink here and then with friends over the weekend from that time on, all of that which was strictly my decision. Planning to switch to tea drinking again in September as I plan to return to boxing after 9 years.

His under the belt personal remark probably made me overly emotional, but some things you don't touch.

Call it any way you want, but I got seriously offended by the "$150 payment plan" and "buying a new macbook" and of course no money on account

Enough is enough, how long would you wait? Another 30 months of constant "communication"?

Now I really need to go.

Haha, well I'll stop posting and let you get to the PB asap.

You didnt answer my first qeustion, but i know the answer so no need...

I dont really consider this "transaction" a loan... he did in the end owe you money... but I sure as fuck wouldnt consider it a loan.

Ive agreed with you one the payment plan thing.

Right on for the health and I too feel for your and anyone's loss. Not to be fucked with. Though, what was said was more about your state of mind rather than fucking with your kin.

I have, am and most likely will wait for debt that far exceed yours. I dont have them public and im also not the one that made the whole thing a problem in the first place... well besides doing my work.

If and when I lay my story out, calling the person(s) out... I will lay it out as it is... Not whats in favor of my personal outcome. I always admit my faults within confrontation.

YOu cant seem to.

Have a good night dude. No hard feelings.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WchpzmtYIHg :2 cents:

I agree with this as well... I dont disagree with "Making" this thread... just be forthright about the whole thing.

Last statement as i just went and picked out the extra chunky...

I wonder how many people Carlos told this story to and told them that Dwreck straight up stole that chip from him and just heard in this thread just now that it didnt go down like that at all, in fact the chip was pushed at dwreck 3 times...

How much bullshit has been said behind the scenes over a fabricated story?

Damn let it rest.

It's black and white that he took $500 and hasn't yet repaid it, despite it being 2 years.

You obviously didnt read the thread...

Yes, I did.

Who gives a shit about the backstory.

The dude took $500, whether it was "given" to him or he just took it, it need not matter. Fact is, Derick admitted he owed the $500, which is reason why he already paid $350 of it.

This shit is black and white. If he didn't owe anything, he wouldn't have paid anything.

the backstory does matter... how it played out here matters... he has eliminated the debt all together if you didnt catch it all...

my only issue is the painting of him being a run by thieving scammer rather than a mutual victim from a retarded drunken mistake on both parts.

it amazes and baffles me that so many people dont read all of ones words before trying to counteract their words with their own.

you have a valid point in the end... but your belittlement is off...

thats really cool, i like you. :thumbsup

What answer do you know? Tell me?

What evidence do you have?

The only thing I know is that you have Dwreck in your avatar and try to tell me that he didn't "took from me" $ 500 which he wasn't able to give me back although I was playing back and forth with him and I've heard myriads of bullshit excuses.


If you have my money and I want you to pay back - how do you call it?


Not me, no one will be taking my money and fuck with me, as I said if he didn't fuck with me for 28 months I'd never bring this to the boards, if he paid everything that was oustanding in Florida at the same venue where I got my first $ 350 nothing would go wrong, I'd eat it, that's what a regular folk would do if he owes money

But I'm totally sick of jokers that wear Prada trousers and then tell you they need a "payment plan" for $ 150

Sorry

What didn't I admit, tell me what I don't know?

Search the thread and tell me what I didn't admit, I've even admitted Quagmire's addition to the story that I didn't remember, it's totally irrelevant though, someone ended up with my money, promising to pay back, unable to pay back for 28 months, fucking me left and right, needing a "payment plan" for $ 150 and at the end even trying to insult me in the worst and creepiest possible way

It's exactly four people, one knowing him very well, one not in the business anymore, and two very close friends.

And what exactly did I fabricate? Tell me?

Holy shit! A mutual victim!

Oh Poor Derek ended up with $ 500 that belonged to someone he knew two years prior and who was drunk, he took those chips in the first place, then fleed to the airport, what's more - poor Derek was forced to give it back!

Unfortunately, it wasn't possible to send the money overseas, Paypal is too complicated for a blackbelt in Webcams, so poor Derek had to wait eight months till August until I fly personally over to Florida so he can graciously give me back some of those money that he held in such a grief he couldn't repay it to me during those 8 months, and he couldn't pay the rest to me cause that would be too much money.

And the rest - even in two years he couldn't repay it to me,

Poor Derek needed a payment plan for $ 150 so he could pay his rent and even afterwards wasn't the same poor Derek able to send me the money.

Yes, that's a true victim, I bet he had to borrow that $ 150 from his grandmother so he could send it to me yesterday, or he would have to take his new MacBook to a pawnbroker.

And yes, I feel bad for joking with him, that's what you shouldn't do with people that have no problems taking money that don't belong to them and that have major problems paying back.

congrats to the losers.

See, now you're just being a douchebag who is clearly off his meds.

Fled to the airport? Yeah Carlos, you caught Derek in his scam. He grabbed your $500 chip, ran to his room, quickly packed his bags and caught a cab to the airport so he could get the next available flight back to Toronto.

You got paid yesterday, and yet you keep coming back in to the thread trying to make him look worse by making stupid flipant comments. It stopped being about principle once you got paid.

You were both (extremely) drunk at the time of the incident, so man up and take responsibility for your involvement in the situation. Quit being a dick and move on with life. :2 cents:

Hey! CarlosTheGaucho...
 

trolling someone banned is gay.

Holy Christ you should all just shut up and move on.

+1

Carlos, you need to be a bit less verbose. You don't have to reply to every paragraph that someone posts, especially if they (or you) have already said the same thing 5 times. Just sit back for a while... :thumbsup :pimp

:2 cents::2 cents:

this thread can be offcially closed now :2 cents:

you are showing yourself to be as much a loser and bum as dwreck at this point.

i bet a lot more attention could be received for more money in many different fields.

oh boy, the baller days are over now arent they. the real ballers aint using their real names here anymore. survival of the fittest.

HAHA I got that shirt.

Fuck this thread is stupid in sooo many fucking ways :Oh crap

obviously not :1orglaugh!!! glad you got your money though carlos.

Slow down man.

Ok sorry for getting emotional, that guy touched something you never do. He touched my mother.

No one of you can relate to that I suppose.

Quit being a dick? You think it's funny to fuck with someone's money, pride and even family?

Ok I'll get over it. I don't want to see that joker again though, I don't think he wants to see me neither.

I apologize for being rude.

I'd like to close this thread with a short resume:

Here's what happened, an updated story:

Vegas January 15 2008

I'm gambling, cashing out $ 1200

Derek comes over, grabs a $ 500 chip from my hand palm, I'm checking him out and I don't think it's funny

He's doing those silly grims and I'm joking that he can "keep it", he knows me for two years, but he might as well know that I'm pranking people all the time, he might as well know that it's not a good idea to keep other people's money, before I cash the $ 700 I'm looking around the casino but he's gone, gone with my $ 500. Over here, if someone would tell it to you it means "do you really think you can touch my money?"

After a while I'm looking for him and he's nowhere to find, I can't get in touch with him,
next morning around 11 AM I call his cell number to find out he's on a plane to Toronto

He promises me he'll pay back once he's back.

I'm back on January 19th and hitting him up on ICQ, asking if he can send it over to my paypal

His excuses:

- can't use corporate account
- doesn't have his own account
- has to wait till another pay period is over

etc. etc.

If you really want I can still find countless ICQ logs how he makes up one excuse after another for 8 months.

We're repeating this routine up until August where I tell him that I'm going to Florida so he's telling me that we'll catch up

August 2008 Hollywood Florida, the second day of the show we bump on each other and I'm saying hello what's up, didn't you forget about me I'm smiling I'm easy. So he gives me $ 350, I don't want to bother him for the rest of the show but of course I expect that he'll come over and pay the rest, he doesn't.

So I fly back work on some things and say this is not a priority, that I don't need to chase him down like crazy for $150, since it's a beer money. I'm trying to hit him up like three or four maybe five times in the meantime, every two or three months or so, after a couple months, so I don't scare him off, but he doesn't reply at all, so I'm saying don't sweat it guy is ok he's gonna pay you.

early 2010 I'm going through my Excel spreadsheed putting down contacts and sums owed, his money is the last priority, last priority since it's a personal money and not business money, I'm trying to hit him up in the meantime yet he doesn't respond

He finally responds in June 2010 as he probably forgot about it already, so I have this ICQ convo and telling him that $ 150 is not exactly a huge sum of money but we should make it clear.

Once again, I've made good money between 2005 - 2009, and continue to do ok in 2010, not exactly a super baller like most of GFY, but $ 500 has never been a question of life and death, yet I have this Jewish mentality and I won't let anyone yank with my money.

He Agrees once again and comes up with a "payment plan" - I agree (as in the ICQ log) but I tell to myself this guy was giving me bullshit excuses for long months and then he didn't even bother to reply to me for long months so I tell to myself ok he might be in trouble let's take it easy.

All of a sudden I see him buying himself new Macbook and whatever while the money are NOT on the account.

So after 28 months when he's unable to pay back and obviously lying to me, I decide to come to the boards, no regret.

That's the last straw, enough is enough, I make this thread, whereas he:

- immediately uses every personal information I ever told him to insult me
- admits he owes me money from Jan 2008
- pays me $ 150 that he wasn't able to send to me between August 2008 till July 2010 on the same day which just says something about his attitude to paying debts

I admit I've over reacted, and I apologize for that, I don't want to beat a dead horse, but his remark regarding someone that was the most important person in the world for me just triggered me and sorry, as impotent as it is I just overreacted on a message board. He wanted to irritate me and he touched my Achilles stand.

If I could I'd flush those money down the toilet but I'll rather donate them to cancer research, so this whole hassle has some sort of benefit for someone.

http://trinitypastor.files.wordpress...ken_record.jpg

Carry on... :1orglaugh

ADG

yeah we get it.

Come on Carlos, just drop it, everything you just said has already been rehashed throughout the thread.

Don't shoot the messanger. I really don't care about this thread.

Apparently "I can't believe Carlos, the guy gives me 500 since he made money, he was drunk and even though i kept telling him no repeatedly he said that he would be pissed if i didn't take it! So i took it and then ended up losing it on the tables"

:thumbsup

Dwreck?.

completely amazing Carlos... YUou are still so fucking innocent...

You look far worse in this thread IMO than dwreck now since youre obviously overly bitter and completely irrational while trying to sideskirt your own faults in this incident.

Madalton... I completely respect you dude. It was great to actually meet face to face and bullshit in PHX last year... but tell me why it should be closed? Because your friend now looks like a douche for not standing up to HIS mistake as well?

Answer this honestly... when quagmire posted his side of what happened... did your whole outlook on the incident change at least a little? Its not the fucking same at all when you find out the chip was pushed onto dwreck is it?

Also he may have touched on your family and im sure that hits a point... but you have to realize that it wasnt your fmaily he poked at but your state of mind and that is all personal to you which only you can fret about...

You however came here to our industry where we all eat and sleep and called one of our colleagues a run by, fly by night, thief. YOu can backpeddle all you want. You did that. You DID recant it, but had you not your banning im sure would have been more swift...

Is Carlos not in this industry?

as far as I know he still is :2 cents: