Yay, someone else that isn't a complete piece of shit. The people bitching may as well call them sun hahahahahahas since that's what they really mean.

There are far easier ways to limit the number of illegals coming across the borders.

1. In the late 60s I saw the border between Czech and Austria. I saw it's remains again in the late 90s. It was a km wide "no mans" land type border with barbed wire fences on both sides and traps to stop cars or lorries from busting across. It also had machine gun towers with guards. Later learned a lot of it was mined and had motion sensors. If the poor Eastern Europeans could do it why can't the US?

It stopped most from getting across. I've seen the border between CA and Mexico, it does not compare. This type of border will also reduce a lot of drugs being smuggled across.

2. The incentive to come across is economic. They want work. So penalise anyone giving them work. People employing illegals as maids, gardeners, field hands, laborers or is any other capacity. Fine them heavily or/and imprisonment. Fines should be enough to fund the border control police. You may have to pay more for your produce or labor to pay for the higher labor costs, but it will deter more form employing them.

3. Anyone in a country illegally has no right to any social benefits. No hospital, welfare, eduction etc.

4. Anchor babies can go back with their parents or be adopted. The choice is with the parents.

Uh technically they are immigrants too.. :-)

No, they run meth labs.

Yes, I'm certain the AZ police will be asking white & black people to prove their citizenship. Because, you know.... the cops are so fair & balanced, just like Fox News.

is not adding a new law, it's a state law enforcing federal ones

By asking for a drivers license? Or State ID?
And if you want to see all the news, you have to watch Fox, other networks don't report things that are negative to the president if they can help it

You don't know what an immigrant is.

I was born in the USA from parents who were born in the USA who's parents were born in the USA.

We are decedents from people that immigrated to what is now the USA.

That doesn't make me or my parents or my grandparents immigrants.

Fox is the TV version of the Weekly World News. I'm waiting for O'Reilly to run the Bat Boy story.

Yes, and do you think, let's say there's a group of blacks hanging out on some street corner. They aren't driving and they aren't carrying ID. Will they be arrested and deported for not being able to prove they are here legally? No.

A bunch of white guys hanging out talking outside Home Depot. Will they be questioned and asked to prove their citizenship? Not likely. Will they be arrested if they don't have it? Not likely.

A second group (Hispanics) 30 feet away... will they be asked to prove their citizenship? Probably. Will they be arrested if they don't have it? Probably.

LOL, go away.

Bash Fox all you want, they are number one for a reason, they report the stuff MSNBC won't


Have you ever been asked for an ID from a cop?

is this the extent of your input to this thread or are you just being an asshole?

They are #1 because America is full of conservative idiots that are scared of their own shadows. They lie, they make up stories, they hate black people and hillbillies love them.

Fox News does not reflect real life. Only an idiot would think it did. Only a bigger idiot would be a Fox News watching porn promoter. :1orglaugh

More than a few times. Sometimes I gave it to them, sometimes I didn't. The times that I didn't did not lead to me being arrested until I could prove my citizenship.

time for rough justice! 4 days!

OK, ASSHOLE, you want to call me names, lets dance shit for brains
WTF does porn have to do with it?
I would rather watch Fox knowing that MSNBC won't show any news that shows the president in a bad light, it's been well known that most all news outlets are liberal, and that's fine, but one conservative new organization comes up and ASSHOLES like you play the fucking race card, show me where you fucking troll?
You're just one of the shit for brains liberals that have nothing left because your fucking leader BARRY is so fucked up he can't lead the country without bashing conservatives, without bashing voters in Arizona, without bashing a white cop because he had the nerve to arrest a black teacher, remember the Beer summit?
You calling them racist shows me that your a low level racist yourself, you think that when all else fails, you aways have the racist card, well a big FUCK YOU.
The country is fucked up and the NAACP is condemning people like Shirley Sherrod because of a blog posting of an edited tape of her speech, a tape that the NAACP owned. Then getting fired over fears of what Glenn Beck is going to say. The story came up on fox after she was even fired.

And why did Obamanation try censorship of the news with Fox? And you think any censorship is good when you work in this business, if you do, you're fucking retarded!

and they asked for it because of the color of your skin?

I've been asked too many times, by law, you don't have to show it to them unless you are driving a car or trying to get into a bar or buying liquor or getting arrested I think, but they can just fingerprint you and get your ID that way

Actually, MSNBC has been criticizing the Obama admin quite aggressively lately.

Just call him a hahahahahaha and get it out of your system already.

The media being liberal is a lie perpetuated by conservatives and Fox News. In fact, the complete opposite is true and this is an issue that has already been hashed out in detail many times.

Obama and anyone else with a brain should stay the hell away from Fox News. They should lose their access to the White House and it has fuck all to do with censorship. They have started and ran with multiple false stories without any assistance from the outside world. Organizations posing as news organizations should not be allowed access to Obama just so they can ignore facts and make up more lies. If the fact that 99% of their commentary is proven incorrect isn't a tip off to you then the fact that they sued for the right to lie (and won) should.

Again, it takes an actual idiot to believe anything on Fox News. But hey, it's not your fault. It's also proven that conservatives have an irrational fear of damn near everything and they literally believe the bullshit they spew. This doesn't mean I'm going to watch you blatantly lie and let it slip. Imagine that this post is for others that might read this thread and not you.

The funny part is that Bush got a free pass on everything from everyone. The same people freaking out about Obama doing anything are the ones that had their mouths shut when Bush was doing something 100 times worse. :1orglaugh

And for those curios about his claim that Fox News didn't even touch the Sherrod story until she was fired, more conservative lies from a simple mind.

Here is the timeline, same way these things always play out.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007220004

If you don't want to follow American laws, go fucking home:321GFY

They were not given a choice because of dropping ratings, that is how they make their money
Where are you pulling this 99%, out of your ass? You have to take all the news with a grain of salt, you think that the liberal press is any better than the conservative press? You'll have to back that up.

Bush got a free pass? Are you fucking high? I guess you didn't see all the commentary on the Iraqi and Afghanistan war? The liberal press hammered the shit out of him during his presidency, but he never singled liberal press, the only guy that did that was Barry

Fox Nation linked to Breitbart's Big Government piece, thats hardly reporting on it

I find it funny that the NAACP bashed them for their taping of it and that a government official fired her because of what Glenn Beck might say. All knee jerk reactions because they are playing politics with Fox news

OK, prove it
100 times worse?
spending?
sending troops?
Jobs?
Economy?
The US is in a shit storm, I want facts of what you are saying
Please enlighten us

Now it's not Bush that sent us into a downward spiral? Oh you monkeys have such short memories.

You do know that it was BUSH that was President for the bailout right? You know, the one that was done to stop the world from assploding?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Oh yeah, lets all blame everything on Bush, is that the best you have? you really are an ignorant troll
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You are quite literally insane. The economy is blamed on Bush because he is the one that blew the motherfucker up. It will be years before everything recovers, everyone with half a brain is aware of this. Obama isn't perfect but he's doing OK and he's 1000 times better than that fucking retard you worship.

I didn't like Bush, because he was a GOP, not a conservative, maybe you should google what being conservative is and get a fucking clue you moron

Obamanomics is based solely on Keynesian economics, which most economics blame for the great depression lasting so long

John Maynard Keynes was one of the first economists to advocate government deficit spending as part of the fiscal policy response to an economic contraction. In Keynesian economics, increased government spending is thought to raise aggregate demand and increase consumption.

Classical economists and Austrian economists, however, believe that increased government spending exacerbates an economic contraction by shifting resources from the private sector, which they consider productive, to the public sector, which they consider unproductive. According to Austrian economists, the reason the Great Depression lasted as long as it did was because of significant government spending and government regulation of the economy.




Maybe if you had HALF a FUCKING brain, you would understand how fucked this president is.





You're one of thses people that will dig thru a pile of horse shit looking for a pony, just what Obama needs in the Obamanation, no matter how shitty things get, we can still blame it on Bush, what a fucking MORON!

fixing the economy isnt instant it will take a while.

You copied and pasted an entry from Wikipedia word for word and you are telling someone to get half a brain?

Hahahahahhahaha.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_spending

Have YOU even read 1070, you boob?

The law specifically mentions legal ethnic profiling for purposes of immigration enforcement. It will apply to Mexicans only.

"In stark contrast to the prohibited use of race profiling in criminal law enforcement, the U.S. Supreme Court stated in 1975 that "Mexican appearance" constitutes a legitimate consideration under the Fourth Amendment for stopping a person to verify his or her immigration status. (See United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U.S. 873, 886-87 (1975).) "

Double ownership - I should read GFY on Saturdays more. 150 times more!

There are many American laws I don't care for, and I'm already home. Where do I go now?

pf changs :1orglaugh

True.. BUT MOST of us here are LEGAL ...

Only because we declared ourselves legal.

Think about this: If tomorrow we declared all illegal aliens currently inside the US as officially legal.... at that moment, there wouldn't be a single illegal alien left in the country!

Hey asshole, instead of blowing it off as a copy and paste, why don't your show your fucking intelligence is higher that a tree stump and comment on it, fucking troll

18 months and everything points to it getting worse, or do you believe the only people that think it's getting better? The democrats and MSNBC?

guess who has a large number of illegals in this country? Hispanics but you know this if you've ever been to a home depot. :1orglaugh

dude we are fighting a war that is a great cost.