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CyberHustler 07-25-2010 06:05 PM

Actually, this one is a lot funnier....

fris 07-25-2010 06:15 PM

im new to this shit, whats a tgp?

ruff 07-25-2010 06:26 PM

I remember back in 2001, I was making easy money with solo amateur girl sites on an AVS. I wish I would have had the hindsight to do some other things, like get the fuck out of the AVS and into my own program. Back then there were already major TPG sites in play and I really had no idea how to compete with those guys. (no submitter programs then) Not to mention the mechanics of setting everything up, managing a server and paying for bandwidth. It's easy now to be critical of decisions made back then with what people know now. For instance, I never even gave webcams a thought back then. I'm not even sure I had an ISP that could handle it. Making thousands of dollars a week, I was even getting shaved every 5th sale and rebill (found this out later). Thought it would never end. $6000 a month and you have to work 40 hrs a week to do wasn't worth it then when there was other ways to make large money. There wasn't any AVN show or webmaster hulabaloos back then, it was every man for himself. Really like the wild west. A lot of you new guys and girls don't realize what those days were like.

Atticus 07-25-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17362564)
When I posted on GFY often :1orglaugh was used all the time. It shows that I am laughing at you, no cover required.

As for the investor / partner deal, I already covered that way up at the top of this thread. There's really not much more to say on the matter and the guy I was talking to wasn't interested. Considering that nobody else has inquired I'm almost positive that it will be a solo operation for awhile.

Also, since you brought it up to make your point I will cover this as well. I know at least one person that prefers to work with someone else even if they don't have to. ME. I absolutely hate sitting at a desk pounding away online with nobody to discuss ideas with. When you have a partner with a vested interest there is at least one other person in the world that gives a shit about what you are doing.

I actually gave up 50% of a business venture to someone on GFY way back in 2003. Know what it cost them? ZERO. Hilariously enough there were about 100 people doing the same thing you are doing now, talking shit. While dozens of people chose to talk out of their ass one person wrote and asked me what was up, we made a ton of money and last I heard he is raking it in albeit on some things I wasn't willing to touch due to US laws. I know there are a bunch of dipshits here with the next big thing but that isn't me. :2 cents:

Edit: Since you're having so much fun in this thread here is the one people made fun of me for way back in 2003. It's much funnier than this one.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=98322

Suckers.

Thanks for the link. You're right, it was a fun read. However I think the two really complement each other. For example you describing creating a porn empire on an AOL email addy back in 2003 really brings out the LOL's when you're asking people to invest under $10k on a cant miss opportunity in 2010.

TeenCat 07-25-2010 11:14 PM

lol that stocktrader pimp is a real treasure for gfy :)

Agent 488 07-25-2010 11:25 PM

http://www.jobs4adults.com/img/sexy_video_marketing.jpg

BigDeanEvans 07-25-2010 11:38 PM

Stockbroker lives in a shitty apartment and drives a 1988 Datsun!!

Chosen 07-25-2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 17362622)
im new to this shit, whats a tgp?

:1orglaugh

Raf1 07-26-2010 12:01 AM

lol at the bullshit in this thread...

crazytrini85 07-26-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17362255)
yeah sure.

:2 cents::2 cents:

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 17362622)
im new to this shit, whats a tgp?

What is a fris? :upsidedow

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 17362634)
I remember back in 2001, I was making easy money with solo amateur girl sites on an AVS. I wish I would have had the hindsight to do some other things, like get the fuck out of the AVS and into my own program. Back then there were already major TPG sites in play and I really had no idea how to compete with those guys. (no submitter programs then) Not to mention the mechanics of setting everything up, managing a server and paying for bandwidth. It's easy now to be critical of decisions made back then with what people know now. For instance, I never even gave webcams a thought back then. I'm not even sure I had an ISP that could handle it. Making thousands of dollars a week, I was even getting shaved every 5th sale and rebill (found this out later). Thought it would never end. $6000 a month and you have to work 40 hrs a week to do wasn't worth it then when there was other ways to make large money. There wasn't any AVN show or webmaster hulabaloos back then, it was every man for himself. Really like the wild west. A lot of you new guys and girls don't realize what those days were like.

I was making that much money as a webcam affiliate! I wanted my own cam site and even asked many of the credit card people around town but they all told me they couldn't process it. I didn't know anything about iBill much less coding, server management etc. Soon after the laws started getting scary so I didn't want anything to do with it anyhow. A lot of the new guys in 2003 didn't have a clue either. :1orglaugh

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Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17362778)
Thanks for the link. You're right, it was a fun read. However I think the two really complement each other. For example you describing creating a porn empire on an AOL email addy back in 2003 really brings out the LOL's when you're asking people to invest under $10k on a cant miss opportunity in 2010.

Dude, I pulled $20,000 per month of off AOL without chat spamming, stealing accounts, etc. Talk all the shit you want but AOL was where everyone with a credit card hung out to talk about sex. You don't know shit. :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 17362949)
lol that stocktrader pimp is a real treasure for gfy :)

Finally, someone gets it.

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Originally Posted by Raf1 (Post 17362992)
lol at the bullshit in this thread...

GFY has always been full of idiots, like the haters in this thread. :)

John-ACWM 07-26-2010 02:08 AM

At least it's a funny thread :)

Paul Markham 07-26-2010 03:29 AM

Never throw anything away if it's making money. Develop it so it makes more.

CYF 07-26-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17363192)
Never throw anything away if it's making money. Develop it so it makes more.

best advice in the whole thread right here :2 cents:

will76 07-26-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17362183)
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I also shut down a nearly hands free business when it dropped to $1,200 per month.

Damn times have changed.

if it was nearly hands free, as in took less than 5 hours a month to make you a profit of 1200 a month why would you turn down $250 a hour ? Or you could have hired someone at $10 hour and paid them $50 a month to run it and not bother you and you still cleared an extra $8000 a year.

will76 07-26-2010 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17362239)
I run a couple of offline businesses that I've been expanding for 2 years during a downturn in the economy. I have a partner in those businesses and all 'extra' money we get goes right back into growing them further. Myself, I just get a little old weekly draw that I use to take care of my family and my own life. I had a decent pile of money stockpiled but I have a couple of family members with serious health problems that I'm helping out and I'm not in the mood to tap into that either.

As for the post you referenced, I was purposefully vague but you've misunderstood what I was saying. I do have a mainstream business (not just a site) that I am in the process of getting off the ground. It is going up no matter what, I don't need anything. It would however benefit from a few ($x,xxx to $xx,xxx not $1,000) for design, coding, initial promotion, etc. It's not necessary but it would make my life easier. Besides, I like working with others. The internet is a boring place when you're plugging along by yourself and I actually hate it at this point.

In short, I would happily share this business with an interested party but it's not required. Once they see it, they'll shit bricks. :upsidedow

Cheers

email me the info, I have money to invest.

Pipecrew 07-26-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17364955)
if it was nearly hands free, as in took less than 5 hours a month to make you a profit of 1200 a month why would you turn down $250 a hour ? Or you could have hired someone at $10 hour and paid them $50 a month to run it and not bother you and you still cleared an extra $8000 a year.

I have seen stuff like this before, usually means you were in jail.

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17364955)
if it was nearly hands free, as in took less than 5 hours a month to make you a profit of 1200 a month why would you turn down $250 a hour ? Or you could have hired someone at $10 hour and paid them $50 a month to run it and not bother you and you still cleared an extra $8000 a year.

I started making $15,000 to $20,000 per month on eBay in 1999 but I worked 100 hours a week and my wife worked around 70. That started to slow down so I started looking for other things. I found Clickcash in 2001 and made somewhere around $800 in 3 days talking people into signing up by hand. I started dropping computers online into AOL chatrooms and bumped that up to $20,000 to $30,000 per month. The only work I was doing was adding more computers to my pile and dealing with the networking. Eventually AOL had enough and booted all of my accounts, as well as the new ones I started with friends credit cards.

I had already been exploring new traffic and when things died I went into overdrive. I bounced everything over to Yahoo and picked right back up at $20,000+ per month. This was the easiest money I ever made in my life. It took around 1 hour per day (usually less) to reboot all of my computers, start up software and leave. I was renting an office by this time and kept my computers online there. Eventually Yahoo shut down the area I was exploiting and my income from that went from $20,000+ per month to around $1,200 per month literally overnight. After deciding that they were not going to 'fix' the stuff I was using to get sales I pulled the plug, left my lease and used some of the cash I had saved to start an offline business.

There are a few reasons I decided to leave it all offline. I was worried a bit about being sued by Yahoo and $1,200 wasn't worth the risk where $20,000 or more was. Also, it's hard to explain this to broke people here but maybe you'll understand. I was extremely young at the time and confident as you can be. I knew that anything I threw my time into would pay off so I was damned sure going to find something to get back on top. I was used to making a ton of money on everything I attempted and going from $20,000 to $1,200 seemed about the same as going from $20,000 to $0. It was equally devastating in my opinion. I had a new business to start, a newborn to deal with, a fairly new wife, a new home to attend to with a big yard to maintain, and I was doing something every waking hour of the day. I said 'Fuck It' and that was that.

stocktrader23 07-26-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17364966)
email me the info, I have money to invest.

I have no problem discussing this with you but you're going to have to give me a few days. No offense but you seem to be one of the handful of people here that might have the funds and desire to drop something similar online without my assistance. :1orglaugh

Let me get a bit of a head start then I'll check to see if you are interested. ;)

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 17364973)
I have seen stuff like this before, usually means you were in jail.

:1orglaugh

lazycash 07-26-2010 04:55 PM

That same tgp making 6k/mo in 2001 is now making $200/mo in 2010.

fris 07-26-2010 04:55 PM

Jail jail jail

Agent 488 07-26-2010 05:01 PM

that's the worst part of going to jail, the criminal record makes it almost impossible to get a legit job so the only way the ex-con can survive and provide is going back to their old shady ways.


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