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J. Falcon 08-01-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17379327)
How is that? I'll never kill you because you're an infidel or because you're gay or of a different faith. Religion is the most dangerous superstition on the planet. Atheists have so much less "baggage" and are intelligent enough to resist indoctrination. I view all religious people as mentally ill, stupid or both.

Not all religious people are zealots. Some actually believe in peace and the real teachings of their religion, and won't try to convince you that their beliefs are the only true beliefs. Your hatred of all religious people just shows the same intolerance you are supposedly against.

Wars are not started over religion. They are started over greed and lust for power, territory and money. Religion is only an excuse.

TheSenator 08-01-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17379346)
stalin wasn't a christian.

if anyone thinks that religious people have a monopoly on barbarity are as fucking stupid as some slack jawed bible thumper.

Weak argument.....

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...ury_atrocities

Since atheism per se has no dogma, it is difficult to find a causal link between atheism and immoral behavior or the commission of atrocities. It is often much easier to find a cause rooted in some other belief held by the perpertrator. For example, the statement "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he was an atheist" is, on its face, a non sequitur. On the other hand, "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he thought they represented a threat to the establishment of communism", while irrational and abhorrent, at least enjoys a certain internal consistency.

TheSenator 08-01-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17379357)
Not all religious people are zealots. Some actually believe in peace and the real teachings of their religion, and won't try to convince you that their beliefs are the only true beliefs. Your hatred of all religious people just shows the same intolerance you are supposedly against.

Wars are not started over religion. They are started over greed and lust for power, territory and money. Religion is only an excuse.

Sorry but if you believe an invisible being up in the clouds then there is something mentally ill with you.

J. Falcon 08-01-2010 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17379364)
Sorry but if you believe an invisible being up in the clouds then there is something mentally ill with you.

If you feel the need to attack people because they believe in a certain religion, not only is there something mentally ill with you, but you are just as intolerant and and ignorant as the people you attack. Do I need to spell it out for you?

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pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:08 AM



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Agent 488 08-01-2010 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17379359)
Weak argument.....

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...ury_atrocities

Since atheism per se has no dogma, it is difficult to find a causal link between atheism and immoral behavior or the commission of atrocities. It is often much easier to find a cause rooted in some other belief held by the perpertrator. For example, the statement "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he was an atheist" is, on its face, a non sequitur. On the other hand, "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he thought they represented a threat to the establishment of communism", while irrational and abhorrent, at least enjoys a certain internal consistency.

never said atheism made him a monster. straw man.

Babaganoosh 08-01-2010 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17379357)
Not all religious people are zealots. Some actually believe in peace and the real teachings of their religion, and won't try to convince you that their beliefs are the only true beliefs. Your hatred of all religious people just shows the same intolerance you are supposedly against.

Wars are not started over religion. They are started over greed and lust for power, territory and money. Religion is only an excuse.

I thought you had me on ignore, simpleton? :1orglaugh

Whoa, kiddo. I never said I hated religious people. I pity them. I don't hate them. Why is it that religious people love to claim persecution?

Yngwie 08-01-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17379275)
Stupid fuck texts me in Arabic though so I have no idea what he is saying :upsidedow

what he's saying is "a/s/l? Wanna cyber?"

he's just lonely so don't hold it against him. :1orglaugh

Badmaash 08-01-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17379364)
Sorry but if you believe an invisible being up in the clouds then there is something mentally ill with you.

I dont know about a being in the sky, but I do believe that there is something that we cannot describe that made us and that undescribale to me is the notion of God.....

So who made the "materials" to make us, the universe etc etc, from your point of view?

pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17379423)
So who made the "materials" to make us, the universe etc etc?

Why do you need someone?

Badmaash 08-01-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17379425)
Why do you need someone?

Or something...... what "thing", "idea", "equation" "undescribale", made us?

pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:32 AM

Even if there is a god, why the christian or the muslim one?
And why all these rules?
From where they are coming from?
Only because you have to have SOMEONE who created the universe?
And who created him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur

ottopottomouse 08-01-2010 08:34 AM

Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?

pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:34 AM

God created the world: thou shalt burn the quran!

Sorry i don't see the point

pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17379433)
Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?

They are both infidels

Badmaash 08-01-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17379431)
Even if there is a god, why the christian or the muslim one?
And why all these rules?
From where they are coming from?
Only because you have to have SOMEONE who created the universe?
And who created him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur

He was made of himself, he made himself

Badmaash 08-01-2010 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17379433)
Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?

There is no such thing as a muslim god or a christian god but only one God, the God of all gods! We just have a few religions that teach us how to get there but we ourselves have caused conflict and say no this way, no that way, instead of just getting on with whatever path you have picked

pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:39 AM

Did he jerked off to create himself while he didn't exist?

ottopottomouse 08-01-2010 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17379437)
They are both infidels

It's all fairy stories anyway but-
  • Christian god gives ten commandments to Moses while he is off his tits up a mountain
  • Muslim god gives Mohammed a set of revelations while he is off his tits up a mountain

Badmaash 08-01-2010 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17379446)
Does he jerked off to create himself while he didn't exists?

Lol - I dunno, I guess you can ask him when your time is up, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock......

pornmasta 08-01-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17379459)
Lol - I dunno, I guess you can ask him when your time is up, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock......

According to my spinning top i'm in a dream, see you later :upsidedow

Badmaash 08-01-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 17379465)
According to my spinning top i'm in a dream, see you later :upsidedow

Just smoke some pot, cause every little thing is gonna be aright.....


Babaganoosh 08-01-2010 08:56 AM

God didn't create man.

Man created God.

Sausage 08-01-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17379359)
Weak argument.....

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...ury_atrocities

Since atheism per se has no dogma, it is difficult to find a causal link between atheism and immoral behavior or the commission of atrocities. It is often much easier to find a cause rooted in some other belief held by the perpertrator. For example, the statement "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he was an atheist" is, on its face, a non sequitur. On the other hand, "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he thought they represented a threat to the establishment of communism", while irrational and abhorrent, at least enjoys a certain internal consistency.

Tons of Athiests are guilty of some obscene crimes against humanity. Does it mean all Athiests are evil psycopathic nutjobs ... no. Just because a SMALL fraction of religious people are murdering assholes doesn't mean all religious people are.

Your argument is gaping full of holes.

So since a few porn webmasters sell child porn that means we all do???!

Badmaash 08-01-2010 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17379477)
God didn't create man.

Man created God.

Then who/what created man?

MaDalton 08-01-2010 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17378402)
So this guy wants to add more fuel to an already crazy bunch of people, he should have more sense to use Christian values to bring about peace not start dissing religions and burning Qurans.... this guys seems very unintelligent!

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29...id=T6hC27NlH6c

guy reminds me of someone...

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com...s-beck-cre.jpg

MaDalton 08-01-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17379491)
Then who/what created man?

Evolution :2 cents:

Babaganoosh 08-01-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17379491)
Then who/what created man?

Evolution made us what we are today. We were not created. There is tons of scientific evidence to back that up.

There is absolutely no evidence that we were blinked into existence 5,000 years ago as the bible tells it. Anyone who ignores fossil evidence that we did, in fact, evolve over millions of years is ignorant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hominina_fossils

Grapesoda 08-01-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17379433)
Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?


Islam is based on an older form of Judaism than Christianity, and went down hill from there

Grapesoda 08-01-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17379507)

the weird old dude in phantasim

Badmaash 08-01-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17379587)
Evolution made us what we are today. We were not created. There is tons of scientific evidence to back that up.

There is absolutely no evidence that we were blinked into existence 5,000 years ago as the bible tells it. Anyone who ignores fossil evidence that we did, in fact, evolve over millions of years is ignorant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hominina_fossils

Yeah, but what my question is where did the material come from to create anything in the universe.... forget about who we were made, how did the material come into exitence to make us..... I am talking about energy, protons, nuetrons and electrons?

$5 submissions 08-01-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 17379357)
Wars are not started over religion. They are started over greed and lust for power, territory and money. Religion is only an excuse.

Exactly. Religion is just one of a set of excuses used throughout history. Other excuses focus on ethnicity/culture, fake wars of "liberation", etc.

Babaganoosh 08-01-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17379738)
Yeah, but what my question is where did the material come from to create anything in the universe.... forget about who we were made, how did the material come into exitence to make us..... I am talking about energy, protons, nuetrons and electrons?

I think it all came from a huge cosmic vending machine that takes waffles instead of coins.

The thing with believing in a "God" is that my asinine theory of where the building blocks came from is just as valid as yours.

J. Falcon 08-01-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17379477)
God didn't create man.

Man created God.

Wow, very deep.

GatorB 08-01-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17379491)
Then who/what created man?

Once again if God created everything who/what created God? If you say god has just always existed so why can't the universe just always existed also?

Badmaash 08-01-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17380053)
Once again if God created everything who/what created God? If you say god has just always existed so why can't the universe just always existed also?

Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....

Babaganoosh 08-01-2010 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17380087)
Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....

Nobody knows. You know that nobody knows. I'm curious how the religious jump to the conclusion that it was some kind of deity. Is there any evidence to make someone jump to that conclusion? Is it simple indoctrination or willful ignorance (aka faith).

GatorB 08-01-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17379433)
Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?

Yep. Both trace their "history" back to Abraham. That's when the split occured.

GatorB 08-01-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash (Post 17380087)
Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....

Who knows, who cares, no one will ever know so why fucking worry about it? Doesn't mean make up "god" so you can have an answer. The fact is science could come up with the answers for everything and the religions of the world will dismiss it because it would put them out of business. I find ironic that people won't believe in science but will believe God made man out of some sand and woman out his rib and Noah built a huge boat that fit every fucking animal on the planet on it. By the way since the boat couldn't move until the floods came how did Noah get to Australia to save the kangaroos before the water killed them all?


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