no one likes mormons?

I think thats why they spent all that cash against same sex marriage..."if we can't have marriage our way, no one can!"

They tend to force girls into marriage. Also believe they tend to cross incestuous lines.

You use words like "stupid" and "theory blown" and expect people to respect let alone acknowledge your opinion? :error

Murder law(lol love how you describe it) can certainly be discriminatory towards an individual with severe retardation, people in the act of law enforcement, soldiers at war, impaired individuals, etc. Fortunately we have fine tuned your "all inclusive murder law" to be MANY laws that encompass the death of individuals caused by the actions or inaction of others.

The Judge never said Prop8 was "stupid" in his opinion. That is a word he would reserve to be used only to describe you.

And homosexuals tend to spread AIDS... how is it that you can even use that mind of yours to even breathe without a machine AMP?

Im pretty sure more people dont like fags than mormons. Im just saying....

Murder laws discriminate against retarded people, police, soldiers, and the drunk? :1orglaugh

Okay, so you don't like "murder law".... let's see if I can come up with a few others that aren't discriminatory that you might find acceptable.

Jaywalking (discriminates against jaywalkers)
Speed limits (discriminates against speeders)
Term limits (discriminates against incumbants)
Burglary laws (discriminates against burglars)
CP laws (discriminate against kids trying to break into the porn biz)
Alcohol laws (discriminate against those under 21)
Drunk Driving laws (discriminate against alcohol retailers)

Are you fucking retarded or something? :1orglaugh

Straights spread AIDS too. Let's ban them from getting married.

What the fuck does ass-fucking have to do with marriage?

I was responding to someone using generalizations against a religious group of people so I used a generalization against a sexual preference group of people. Trying to drag me off subject because of you own ignorance of the true issues at hand are weak AMP.

Uh, unless you're claiming homosexuality is normal, in which case you'd be a moron on drugs. There is nothing normal about homosexuality, that's why people have a problem with it. I guess the male and female bodies are designed randomly. Just stop posting. With that said, he was openly gay before the ruling and I have respect for Supreme Court judges. I have no doubt he was being objective, I just don't agree with his decision.

Lets see if you can actually find a SOCIAL law that isnt discriminatory.

I'm not dragging you off subject. I'm just trying to keep up with all the insane laughable things you are saying. You said Homosexuals spread AIDS. I informed you that straights do too. That nullifies your statement. (not that your statement had anything to do with marriage anyway)

You said ALL LAWS. I proved you wrong. Don't try to change your parameters now. It's too late.

Oh fuck off already Fuck.

No one gives 2 shits about you. You in the "Adult" industry. Take you fucking views elwhere to preach you fucking fuck.

Fuck.

According to YOU and "those people". They probably find you to be very not-normal as well. I know I do.

Some people say that people choose to be gay. So for them it could be broken down into simple steps, such as: if you dont like it, dont choose to be gay. Which only makes sense if a person is capable of choosing their sexual orientation.

That is a clearly incorrect presumption. But even if someone wholeheartedly disagrees and insists that it's a choice, they can still employ logic to realise the other sides position. To the other side it's a simple matter of birth. And you need look no further than ANY other consequence of birth to make the legal analogy. Should black people be banned from being married if the majority of voters say that they should be? Of course fucking not. It's a right.

Furthermore, the very fact that it's "up for a vote" is proof that equality doesnt yet exist for them. It's a 1 to 1 replacement analogy, and it's fucking painfully simple. One side thinks it's a choice, and therefore you can regulate it like having to be this tall to ride the ride. The other side knows that they were born that way, and say fuck you idiot, you dont even understand the argument.

Oh jesus, you're delusional. Even homosexuals admit they're not normal. The ones that are trying to rationalize their choices came up with "there's nothing wrong with it!!" You're right though, your retarded opinion trumps science!

You're right though. Most stupid people are in denial and therefore find everyone else to be abnormal. :)

The truth hurts I know. Go smoke a bong you will feel better.

Please point out any conclusive scientific study that says homosexuals were born that way, and not resulted from the product of their environment.

When I was a kid (I'm 48) the "will of the people" in my state was to slap "Whites Only" signs on drinking fountains, restrooms, restaurants, etc... it was not a vote of the people that ended it. The Supreme Court ended school segregation in October '69, against "the will of the people". Were those "activist" judges? Were they wrong?

And you are the one that gets to decide what's normal and what's not? Good to know. :1orglaugh

Please point out any conclusive evidence that they are not born that way.

Wait so you are saying they think they should allowed to be married against current moral society wishes simply based on an unscientific fact that they think they are born gay and have a "right" to be married because they didnt CHOSE to be gay? WOW just wow I really hope thats not the argument they will bring before the Supreme Court.

Please point out any conclusive scientific study that says homosexuals were'nt born that way, and not resulted from the product of their environment.

Hahahaha and as I've predicted, the typical liberal "who are you to.." argument. That just shuts down any attempt at intelligent debate. You're right, science and society don't know dick. You're also probably stupid enough to believe in moral and cultural relativism so you can use that as an excuse to do anything you want.. Too funny.

Tom, you're used to being called stupid but really? You want me to prove a negative to you? The burden of proof is on you because there hasn't been any studies that prove homosexuality is anything other than a choice. I made a mistake by typing to you now I feel dumber, my mistake.

whatever man the people spoke, and they don't want gays getting married. if they believe in the bible or not i haven't a clue.

Hell no man because anyone who opposes same sex marriages are bigots/religious fanatics/KKK members!!!

Did the straights have to scientifically prove they were born a certain way before marriage was granted to them? Why do straights feel they have a "right" to marry? Who the fuck do you think you are? Suck a cock homophobe.

There's nothing "wow" about it. Your sides' premise is faulty. You've never seen someone you knew was gay before they told you? hah.

Now you're catching on. Fuck, there may be hope for you yet.

You're wrong. The burden of proof is on you to prove a person is not a citizen deserving of rights because........... blank. Jackass. Done with you now, you didnt deserve the attention.

Ironic that you're asking someone who the fuck they are, while making hilarious arguments regarding the normality of straight people and the alleged normality of homosexuals. You are one stupid child, thanks for the laughs. I'll use your logic. Who the fuck are you to insult someone for believing in the sanctity of marriage and the normality of heterosexuality!!

http://www.galilean-library.org/site...rden-of-proof/

Educate yourself you moron.

This whole thread is pointless. Who cares if the judge is gay? Calling him out on that is pushing it, even for me. He made what I think is an objective decision, because I doubt he would compromise his oath for his personal beliefs. We who don't agree with it will just look forward to the tough battle in the Supreme Court. The end.

So reinstate the ban then. Fine by me.

Of course, if that ban is going to mean anything at all, everyone must prove they don't spread AIDS, they haven't undergone a sex change, and that they've never had a homosexual thought in their life. If they are discovered later to have had a homosexual thought, their marriage is instantly nullified and they should do time in prison. That's fair.

We can start by arresting all the ass-pumpers that are also priests.

you are wrong...

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...ound-gay-gene/

from your favorite news outlet...

also, how do you explain homosexual behavior in animals? and i am not talking about dogs that mount each other to show domination, i am talking about stallions that will not mate and will only get aroused mounting other male horses..

you talk a lot of shit, but you never seem to be able to back that lip service up with any facts..

i will be off fucking your mother in the ass for the next few minutes, but i shall return to do battle with you if you wish...

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Another jackass with no understanding of burden of proof. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I stopped at the title because it proved my point and made you look stupid. Notice the question mark at the end? That indicates a question. Notice what the word conclusively means? Probably not. Even if I were to ignore all that, the irony is that you ignore fox news unless it possibly supports your views..You're just as dumb as Tom:)

Wtf?

I-R-O-N-Y

The voters the state of California collectively decided that same sex marriage should not be allowed in their state.

Federal marriage rights are only afforded between a man and a woman, ostensibly based on the preservation of procreation.

Since homosexuals cannot procreate between two people of the SAME sex they should not be afforded the rights and protections of marriage.

Burden of proof? LOL... You want gay marriage to be illegal. Did you forget what illegal means since this morning? If it's illegal, then there must be penalties, otherwise it's just "frowned upon". Like masturbating in a plane. (Thanks Bin Laden.)

No penalties, no law. Therefore, my suggestion makes perfect rational sense. If a man & woman are married and he later comes out of the closet, he must be punished. Gays can't marry. He is a criminal.