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last show i went to there was like MAYBE a handful of actual affiliate webmasters there. what do they expect when the show is held at a hotel that charges like $250/night. badges are like $300. flights usually run you $250-350 round trip. so you're like well over a grand before you even hit the show floor. were not even talking food and drinks or anything either. all the shows i've been to have been like that. |
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One of the biggest parts of the porn industry was magazines. They dominated the porn industry for decades, produced a few billionaires, lots of multi millionaires and never had a show ever. To my knowledge.
If you have something worth selling you don't need to go to a show to do it. |
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Looks like there was a record turnout of beach balls this year.
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one of the reasons i think avn does the show here in fl is they make more money off season then they would trying to get the hotel in say feb. |
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you know i like you but Seriously? you dont want people to post their opinions on a show if they are bad because someone might actually agree with them? sorry i didnt say Hi at Internext. say you several times but was tied up each time. ohh and twofiddy shows |
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and BTW its Tarks not Terks. I would think your old ass would remember that for as many times as i have taken you there over the years :winkwink: still the best Dolphin sandwich in town |
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I enjoy the food and the entertainment there. |
I don't know why people keep expecting there to be "affiliates" at shows... Why would an affiliate want to go to a show? The very fact that program owners/reps want affiliates at shows would scare an affiliate away :1orglaugh
Affiliates do not like being spammed at, online or in real life. |
I will go to a show if I have business to do, but I do not go out of my way to create the business just to attend the show. Once I do that business the rest of the time I attempt to relax. The AVN Miami show was great because the hotel was great, soft beds, great food and location - and lots of locals to connect with outside the show. It was probably the best party/relax location we had, that still allowed for decent business.
Business wise, other than last show, the rest had the same people year after year and even different shows. The same people that visited the west coast already. If you visit more than a few shows a year, it isn't hard to figure out which shows you should drop. If you want to get business done you hit the Forum and the Expo's. If you want to party, hang with friends, get lucky on business if it happens to fall in your lap, then anv, xbiz, etc is your flavor. |
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One company had a stage doing live strip dances with the girls being allowed to use dildo's, etc. One girl took out a pair of silver metal beadballs from her pussy and put them in the guy she brought up on stage's mouth :1orglaugh , I got video of it Freeone's of course had their massive booth out there with an arsenal of hotties doing stripteases and shows. We won't discuss the video I have of a certain incident Roald put me in :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Even attendee's were wearing very little clothing. It is what a porn consumer show should be, and its a shame the US shows cannot put on the same and show hardcore video even when the attendance is 21+ requirements. |
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No? A few rare products sell themselves and people get rich. The rest of the rich folk had marketers. |
i would only go to do a bump with robbie.
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You guys misunderstood my sheep comment.
There are people out there that will believe anything they read on a chat board. They will sometimes base their business decisions and show attendance on the rantings and mob mentality. It's unfortunate because that pool of potential attendees for this or ANY show can be poisoned, and that sucks. If you went to the AVN Show and tried hard to find business, and thought it sucked, well then yeah, your opinion matters and you are completely justified. If you went to the show, bitched and whined the whole time and hung with the same 3 or 4 people and didn't really try to meet new people, well, then not so much. If you didn't go at all, and are just taking pot shots at AVN and going off "what you heard" well then that's just weak. I'm sure there will be a way for my words to be twisted around again and potshots taken at me for YNOT and Cybernet and whatever. Bottom line is this... The AVN Show was not overly crowded, but it was good for business and fun. I networked with a ton of people and plan on closing several deals. And in the final analysis, that's all that really matters. |
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In offline stuff i've never got instant results from a trade show. We always came away not really knowing if it was a complete waste of time sales wise but generally will have found someone purchasing wise you never knew existed that just about gives a reason for going.
Then 3 months later you can get a phone call that justifies everything :) |
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When I began in this industry a short 5 years ago my show schedule was 4 to 5 shows a year with all of them being in the U.S. I attended the shows for two simple reasons...
to secure new affiliates for our webcam product Secretfriends and to perpetuate our company brand AlmightyContent. A pure and simple business approach? :upsidedow Between 2006 and 2008 I attended 13 shows from coast to coast hosted by 5 different organizations. Each offered something new and different with plenty of buyers and sellers attending. Then I noticed the big shift in show attendees in 2009 with the major difference being that fewer and fewer affiliates were attending... no matter what the reason. If you take away the affiliates from a show then you might as well take away the companies that are there specifically attending to do business with affiliates... and what do you have left??? I have discussed this with two of the major show promoters and asked why there are no shows geared towards attracting a large number of affiliates and I can't seem to get a clear answer as to why. Based on my research, an average of one third of the attendees at mainstream affiliate marketing conventions are affiliates with plenty of business for everyone! Bottom line I think that all show promoters would serve themselves best by continuing to listen to those like myself that want to attend as many of the industry shows as possible but cannot justify so due to the lack of potential customers. I know that it is nearly impossible to design a show that would accommodate the needs of everyone in this industry but I still feel most are trying to do so with less and less luck:( Maybe the answer is simply make the shows smaller and more targeted then look at going to a regional schedule. As many stated there are webmasters dying to pull themselves away from the monitor for a few days to attend a friendly, fun and affordable webmaster gathering. Just my :2 cents: _ |
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http://www.venus-berlin.com/en/box/3...p=fachbesucher have a look yourself, the only big show booths that are left are live-strip.com and freeones you see any big DVD companies? Marc Dorcel & Pleasure maybe - that's it. and trust me - consumers will be really disappointed this year, thats why i said the real problem will be next year. also i don't believe that the consumers are the real cashcows - when 50% of the hall space remain empty they are missing out on a few 100k Euro in revenue. that has to hurt. i have been through a couple discussions about this with a dozen companies who used to exhibit at Venus and i kind of feel bad for the Venus organizers. but not listening to your clients is what makes this happen. |
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anyone going to Montreal for www.qwebec.com later this month?
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Lets see how this year plays out, looking forward to it but it looks like its getting less and less. Think we are the only one who got a bigger booth again lol |
Lets see how this year plays out, looking forward to it but it looks like its getting less and less. Think we are the only one who got a bigger booth again lol[/QUOTE]
See you there :thumbsup |
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