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dyna mo 08-12-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17409797)
theres only one country in the world to ever use atomic weapons on people

saved a lot of lives in the process too. and ended a world war.

Antonio 08-12-2010 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17409311)
I would like to hear a good argument that he is not. If Bush was the worst president in history and Obama has expanded his policies, how is Obama not the worst?

There's some truth in that - I expected much more drastic changes, at least as far as the foreign policy goes...

The Demon 08-12-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17409651)
Bush lied?

It is up in the air if Bush lied to get us in the war. Many forget he was using Clintons intelligence.





Many forget Clinton supported war against Iraq. His opinion must have been formed with information he gathered during his presidency right?



http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...2618559385027#

The list is endless of the polices Obama has kept and expanded. You are smarter than that.


Edit: I should add it was what Clinton said during the 1990s about Iraq that made me a supporter of the war when it was first started.

Or that that Clinton removed the caps from bank loans to start the financial crisis. Or that the majority of Democrats agreed to go to war when Bush declared it.

The Demon 08-12-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17409814)
to those talking out of their asses:

all of obama's debt is a byproduct of the bush and clinton administrations. if you don't understand the road the country has taken to get where it's at, please don't take part in conversations like this. you just look silly to those who follow politics.

Lovely rationalization, but Obama has had plenty of opportunity to reduce the debt. Instead, he's going to triple it and more, if he hasn't already(not sure if exact figures). You don't need to lie to yourself.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...722830706.html


It's Bush's fault!!! Stupid liberals

xholly 08-12-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17409817)
saved a lot of lives in the process too. and ended a world war.

no. It cost a lot of Japanese civilian lives and saved a lot of US military lives, but of course a Jap life is not worth the same eh. And the war pretty much over already.

The Demon 08-12-2010 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17409841)
no. It cost a lot of Japanese civilian lives and saved a lot of US military lives, but of course a Jap life is not worth the same eh. And the war pretty much over already.

No, the war in the Pacific was nowhere near ending. It was actually getting worse with the Kamikaze bullshit. I have no problems with the nuke being dropped in a time of war to effectively end the war over there. Instead of blaming the US, blame the ignorant Japanese. Even the Emperor wanted to concede the war.

12clicks 08-12-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17409755)
Again, intelligence? Here let me help, the entire cost of the War was added onto the debt after Obama took office. He corrected the books, I know that's hard for you to gather in that vast mind of yours but blaming Obama for a correction is about the stupidest thing a person could do.

And let's not forget under Bush we have the $280b to Citygroup, $700b asset relief, $25b auto industry, $400b Mae/Mac bailout, $30b Bear Stearns and $20b to the Airline Industry.

That's a lot of Money... 1.46trillion before the illegal war costs or all wars being correctly on the books.

Obama.. $787b bailout, most of the money injected straight into the Economy. Wow, that bad bad Obama. heck, I guess in some far out reach world that some how, some way, in some stupid way.. makes Obama worse than Bush.

silly little leftist. putting the war on the books adds $960 billion. by 2015, the deficit is expected to be 20 trillion dollars and you leftist idiots want to explain how the evil George Bush was responsible for 1/20th of it.

don't worry, you're going to get exactly what you deserve for supporting this clown:thumbsup

xholly 08-12-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17409856)
No, the war in the Pacific was nowhere near ending. It was actually getting worse with the Kamikaze bullshit. I have no problems with the nuke being dropped in a time of war to effectively end the war over there. Instead of blaming the US, blame the ignorant Japanese. Even the Emperor wanted to concede the war.

yeah the Japanese were real militaristic pricks for sure and I do blame them too.. I was just making a point and think it wasn't really necessary except to scare the shit out of the russians maybe but its nothing to do with your conversation here so ill leave it alone.

12clicks 08-12-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17409752)
I love how GFY armchair generals talk about Iraq without having ever set foot on Iraqi soil. You wouldn't know an IED if it blew your legs off.

I love how the unintelligent and unaccomplished think that being a grunt elevates your intelligence to the level of the rest of us with a clue.

a grunt is a grunt for a reason. get back to me when you or the other grunts get promoted.:1orglaugh

lazycash 08-12-2010 08:53 AM

Hey if Ben already knows how to "drive traffic" then he's got my vote.

Minte 08-12-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17409797)
theres only one country in the world to ever use atomic weapons on people

They didn't kill people any deader' than the chemical weapons in Iraq did.

Minte 08-12-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17409808)
Yep and Doc actually served his country.

So did I,during Vietnam

Tom_PM 08-12-2010 08:55 AM

Potato. That is all.

Minte 08-12-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17409805)
I don't understand what you agree with. Most of the "leftist" in those post have actually seen a war zone.

Based on what you said though, we should have kept Saddam in power, meaning Bush shouldn't have killed him, making the war even more wrong, making it the reason why the region is the way it is. Basically slapping the Republicans in the face in this thread.

If you don't understand.try re-reading the post. Based on what I said,the US made the right decision to rid Iraq of the Husseins. Is that clear enough?

Rochard 08-12-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17409311)
I would like to hear a good argument that he is not. If Bush was the worst president in history and Obama has expanded his policies, how is Obama not the worst?

Because.... Obama hasn't landed us into two wars while allowing Iran to do whatever it want, and the worst recession in the past fifty years hasn't happened on Obama's watch.

The truth is a new president moves forward with a lot that the past president put into place. Why? It's simple. Right now we are still paying for shit the last guy did. Most of the stuff Obama is passing won't hit us for another 2 - 4 years. It's called passing the buck. That's the way it's always been done. "Pass a law now, but have the next guy pay for it in four years".

Tom_PM 08-12-2010 09:04 AM

Thats how it always is. Someone fucks it up, the others spend 8 years restoring it while all 8 years the someones throw themselves on the ground and kick their legs and flail their arms.

The Demon 08-12-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17409948)
Because.... Obama hasn't landed us into two wars while allowing Iran to do whatever it want, and the worst recession in the past fifty years hasn't happened on Obama's watch.

The truth is a new president moves forward with a lot that the past president put into place. Why? It's simple. Right now we are still paying for shit the last guy did. Most of the stuff Obama is passing won't hit us for another 2 - 4 years. It's called passing the buck. That's the way it's always been done. "Pass a law now, but have the next guy pay for it in four years".

We're in the worst depression since the Great Depression, so Obama has Bush on that one. Also, Minte if you really did serve in Vietnam, much respect. Finally, ignore Doc and Amputate. They don't deal with facts or common sense.

Pics Traffic 08-12-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17409910)
They didn't kill people any deader' than the chemical weapons in Iraq did.

great excuse.

Slappin Fish 08-12-2010 09:10 AM

Saddam was a murderer, he was also the most "westernized" leader in the region. Islamists never liked Saddam, his daughters wore more make up than a $5 whore, he didn't spend money on Mosques, Saddam only spent money on Saddam.

All mouth and no teeth, we will never know if it was the right decision to remove him, but as the saying goes, sometimes "better the evil you know...."

directfiesta 08-12-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17409748)
I love how the leftists talk about the peaceful country of iraq

Definitively more peacefull then the US :2 cents:

pornstar2fag 08-12-2010 09:13 AM

seems a fitting place before this goes too far.

http://api.ning.com/files/TAQisU8LBD...heinternet.jpg

The Demon 08-12-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17409998)
Definitively more peacefull then the the US :2 cents:

Not only can you not spell, but you aren't even good at making shit up.

Pics Traffic 08-12-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17409906)
I love how the unintelligent and unaccomplished think that being a grunt elevates your intelligence to the level of the rest of us with a clue.

a grunt is a grunt for a reason. get back to me when you or the other grunts get promoted.:1orglaugh

Teflon. :warning

Quagmire 08-12-2010 09:16 AM

http://www.banginamateurs.com/chops/ben-quayle.jpg

12clicks 08-12-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt (Post 17410012)
Teflon. :warning

since before you knew what the internet was.

Amputate Your Head 08-12-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17409906)
I love how the unintelligent and unaccomplished think that being a grunt elevates your intelligence to the level of the rest of us with a clue.

a grunt is a grunt for a reason. get back to me when you or the other grunts get promoted.:1orglaugh

I was awarded 5 military medals for my combat service in Iraq. Your biggest accomplishment is spending 9 years belittling people on GFY. I'll take title of "grunt" over that any day freak. :1orglaugh

The Demon 08-12-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17410021)
I was awarded 5 military medals for my combat service in Iraq. Your biggest accomplishment is spending 9 years belittling people on GFY. I'll take title of "grunt" over that any day freak. :1orglaugh

Sure you were. If that's the case, I'm assuming you were shot in the head many times to the point where your brain cells are lacking. But I was in the NFL just like you were awarded 5 medals:)

brassmonkey 08-12-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17409319)
every president is worst of all time :)

i think jimmy carter was ok. :)

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 09:35 AM

Barry Soetoro aka Barak Obama is the worse president in history

Well lets see, he passed healthcare on the promise that it would lower the cost of healthcare, it's gone up over 10% for most people this year

Arizona got so tired of the government not protecting them from illegal aliens, they passed a law, Obama sided with the Mexicans

Obama came in as the get uniter, yet the two parties haven't been this polarized in decades, even the liberals are getting pissed at him

Racism debates are at an all time high, Michelle give a speech at the NAACP and the next day, the NAACP declares the Tea Party as racist


There is no doubt that we've been living beyond our means and we're going to have to make some adjustments." -- Obama during the campaign.
, then send Michelle to Spain to close down the beach for her swin

The recovery act is making new jobs at a cost of about $650K per job

Cash for clinkers did more to help japanese companies

Obama did the bank reform thing, leaving out the two biggest mortgage firms, Fannie and Freddie


Obama criticized pork barrel spending in the form of 'earmarks,' urging changes in the way that Congress adopts the spending proposals. Then he signed a spending bill that contains nearly 9,000 of them


"Mr. Obama is an accomplished orator but is becoming known in America as the 'teleprompt president' over his reliance on the machine when he gives a speech."


Executives at AIG get $165 million in bonuses, despite receiving an $173 billion taxpayer bailout.


"After pushing Congress for weeks to hurry up and pass the massive $787 billion stimulus bill, President Obama promptly took off for a three-day holiday getaway before signing it."


"Obama soared to victory on the hopeful promise of a new era of bipartisanship. During his inaugural address he even promised an 'end to the petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn-out dogmas, that for far too long have strangled our politics.'

"Too bad it took all of three days for the promise to ring hollow.

"Start with Obama's big meeting with top congressional leaders on his signature legislation -- the stimulus -- on the Friday after his inauguration. Listening to Republican concerns about overspending was a nice gesture -- until he shut down any hopes of real dialogue by crassly telling Republican leaders: 'I won.' Even the White House's leaking of the comment was a slap at the Republican leadership, who'd expected Obama to adhere to the custom of keeping private meetings with congressional leadership, well, private.

"It's only gone downhill from there. The stimulus included zero Republican recommendations, and failed to get a single House Republican vote.

"It's not just the tactic of using Republicans for bipartisan photo-ops, and then cutting them loose before partisan decisions, that irks Obama's opponents. The new president wasted no time rushing forward with policies and legislation guaranteed to drive Republicans nuts. The first bill he signed into law was the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act -- a partisan hot-button that drew all of eight Republican supporters in the entire Congress. Then there was the swift reversal of Bush policies on abortion and embryonic-stem-cell research -- issues dear to the Republican base.

"And when Obama and the Democrats in Congress took up SCHIP -- the children's health-insurance bill that Republicans say vastly expands government's role in health care -- they had an easy chance for real bipartisanship. After all, the bill had been hashed out in the previous Congress, and a bipartisan accord was reached before President Bush responded with a veto. Did the Obama team push for the compromise version in the 111th Congress? Nope. They went back to the drawing board, ramming through the Democrats' dream version.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz0wPTf1Te3


Nixes a "buy American" provision in the stimulus bill.


In their first meeting, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown gave Obama a carved ornamental penholder from the timbers of the anti-slavery ship HMS Gannet. Obama gave him 25 DVDs that don't work in Europe

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz0wPUEdxgr

Pics Traffic 08-12-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17410017)
since before you knew what the internet was.

now teflon x 2

Amputate Your Head 08-12-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17410046)
Sure you were. If that's the case, I'm assuming you were shot in the head many times to the point where your brain cells are lacking. But I was in the NFL just like you were awarded 5 medals:)

DD214's don't lie. Demon's do. :)

cwd 08-12-2010 09:41 AM

some interesting stuff going on with ol Ben...

http://thedirty.com/2010/08/vote-for-ben-quayle/

Tom_PM 08-12-2010 09:45 AM

Ben Quayle cancelled an interview on MSNBC today.

Pussification.

sortie 08-12-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17409160)
Ben Quayle, the son of former Vice President Dan Quayle

/thread

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 08-12-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17409841)
no. It cost a lot of Japanese civilian lives and saved a lot of US military lives, but of course a Jap life is not worth the same eh. And the war pretty much over already.

keep in mind, if anyone lost it would be 'unconditional surrender'. back then no one knew what the hell that meant, thus guaranteeing the war was going to be fought till the last.

if we took terms, the world would probably be a different place

TheDoc 08-12-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17409893)
silly little leftist. putting the war on the books adds $960 billion. by 2015, the deficit is expected to be 20 trillion dollars and you leftist idiots want to explain how the evil George Bush was responsible for 1/20th of it.

don't worry, you're going to get exactly what you deserve for supporting this clown:thumbsup

Putting the war on the books added about $1 trillion dollars to the debt, then it's expected to add another trillion if nothing changes. And then you guys sit here and argue about removing the tax cuts for the rich, yet think this shit is some how going to pay for itself. Bitch about it in one breath and again, expect something to magically happen that corrects it.

Btw, you're talking about speculation. Speculation that has already been incorrect, Obama himself did not double in debt and our country didn't fail in the first or second years - and it was said he would. The Speculation has already been proven incorrect and "assumes" no policies change, no laws change, no tax changes happen, it assumes he does exactly the same thing for the next 6 years as he did his "first" year in office.

Man the sheep mentality in you right wingers is off the chart.

CamJack 08-12-2010 10:21 AM

Any sperm from his dad Dan must be as lame as that numbnut's

The Demon 08-12-2010 10:24 AM

Sheep mentality defines the liberals. No need to think, ever.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
Well lets see, he passed healthcare on the promise that it would lower the cost of healthcare, it's gone up over 10% for most people this year

Of course it didn't increase because of his healthcare bill... no part of the bill could have possibly increased healthcare costs yet.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
Arizona got so tired of the government not protecting them from illegal aliens, they passed a law, Obama sided with the Mexicans

Even though he continued the polices that allows growth in border patrol and more guard on actual duty than ever before and more federal arrests, etc. Basically the largest beef up on the border in history and he's not doing anything?

You ignore the constitution when it benefits you? Agree with the law or not, he's correct.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
Racism debates are at an all time high, Michelle give a speech at the NAACP and the next day, the NAACP declares the Tea Party as racist

The majority are racists. I've hung around my family in Texas, I've talked to people in the bars... They have no issue saying what they think and it's damn sure racist until a black man or camera comes around. That isn't to say the NAACP isn't racists.



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
The recovery act is making new jobs at a cost of about $650K per job. Cash for clinkers did more to help japanese companies. Obama did the bank reform thing, leaving out the two biggest mortgage firms, Fannie and Freddie

You can't take the total set aside and divide it by the jobs, it only works that way if you ignore every possible factor of what the was spent on within the economy. Cash for clunkers was to replace shit cars, it did that.

They still do home mortgages? Had no idea.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
Obama criticized pork barrel spending in the form of 'earmarks,' urging changes in the way that Congress adopts the spending proposals. Then he signed a spending bill that contains nearly 9,000 of them

Oh my, double talk from a politician? Oh shit that makes him the worst president, eva!


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
"Mr. Obama is an accomplished orator but is becoming known in America as the 'teleprompt president' over his reliance on the machine when he gives a speech."

What in the hell does this mater? How in hell does this make him the worst president vs. one that sounds like a bumbling idiot, whom was also reading from a teleprompter.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
Executives at AIG get $165 million in bonuses, despite receiving an $173 billion taxpayer bailout.

So you would rather the Gov tell a corporation what to do now? Wouldn't that be an issue for you if he did that? Even though he did later correct the problem, but I guess we can ignore that.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410063)
"After pushing Congress for weeks to hurry up and pass the massive $787 billion stimulus bill, President Obama promptly took off for a three-day holiday getaway before signing it."

Transparency? You had time to read it and he couldn't change it, and you bitch?

TheDoc 08-12-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17410217)
Sheep mentality defines the liberals. No need to think, ever.

This is what all the communists say... they want to do the thinking for you and ignore any truths. Take your communist traitor thoughts back to the mother land! :GFYBand


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