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TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410720)
not at the airport

it was probably t shirt day when those people showed up

What? It's not normal for people to meet the president at the airport but he does do it to the "Governors" not the people running in the rat race. What took place was a scheduled time that Obama setup. Yes, Obama - allowed it, why aren't the Republicans saying how nice he is? White had nothing to talk about... it's not a conspiracy that he didn't take time out of the Presidents day to talk about nothing.


Source Dallas Morning News: "They said what they could arrange is a greeting at the airport," Cesinger said. "While it may be brief the governor is hoping to share his concerns about border security with the president." It is customary for presidents to invite governors to meet them when they arrive in their states.

Cesinger said she had no details about the meeting.

Perry's Democratic opponent, Bill White, says he has no plans to meet Obama while he's in Texas.

"The plans have not changed," White spokeswoman Katy Bacon said. She also took a swipe at Perry, saying the governor had "failed for ten years to get the resources for the border."

Earlier Friday, Perry said he welcomed the opportunity to meet Obama even if for a brief moment outside the president's plane.

"Being the president, we'll obviously meet him on his terms," she said.

Tom_PM 08-12-2010 01:08 PM

Politics. It's just politics.

On foxnews this hour they're covering what they call a protest for more jobless benefits. Their guest said that taking care of people is not the governments job, and that giving more unemployment benefits to people who've been out of work for 99 weeks is at the direct expense of our children.

It's just politics. It's all tactics because there's an election coming up in November.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410597)
Well it has to get going first, wouldn't you think? And I wasn't aware he said it would instantly reduce anything.

the promise was that it wouldn't go up if we passed it, it got passed, I'm waiting


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That's not really a continued policy and it really didn't hurt anything. It's not like our President hasn't gone to other nations and bad mouthed the situation.
you forget all the apologies

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I haven't read it but I've seen parts of it talked about... is he worse than Carl Rove?
Haven't read his book, probably won't... Barry's book was scary enough
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No, I'm saying you took the total amount given up to it and divided by jobs produced to get your number. When not all of the money was directly used to create jobs, some was given to states.
I can in no way see that the money spent on that was any kind of success


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Then every president, vp, and every polition in the world has lied.. heck, Mc Cain would be the leader of this bullshit then. It's not possible for them to do everything they want, with the house, senate, etc that does stop things and wanting things, changing things, etc.

Acting as if he was responsible when people like McCain give him the damn thing.
He promised he would be different
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Hahaha, He said he had visited 57 states with some to go... he was correct. Come on, I really don't have to explain this one to you do I?
no, 57 states of Islam


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Why are you pissed then? He did exactly what you wanted... of course it was abused first, then corrected but hey, it was corrected.
I don't think anything was corrected, by leaving it out of the bank reform, I think they have a plan

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Well he did say he would let others have time to read it... the boss pushes hard to get a job done, it got done. What the hell is the issue with that?

I hope you don't really think he goes on vacation and doesn't work.
it didn't get signed during his vacation

Minte 08-12-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410597)
Well it has to get going first, wouldn't you think? And I wasn't aware he said it would instantly reduce anything.




That's not really a continued policy and it really didn't hurt anything. It's not like our President hasn't gone to other nations and bad mouthed the situation.




I haven't read it but I've seen parts of it talked about... is he worse than Carl Rove?




No, I'm saying you took the total amount given up to it and divided by jobs produced to get your number. When not all of the money was directly used to create jobs, some was given to states.




Then every president, vp, and every polition in the world has lied.. heck, Mc Cain would be the leader of this bullshit then. It's not possible for them to do everything they want, with the house, senate, etc that does stop things and wanting things, changing things, etc.

Acting as if he was responsible when people like McCain give him the damn thing.




Hahaha, He said he had visited 57 states with some to go... he was correct. Come on, I really don't have to explain this one to you do I?




Why are you pissed then? He did exactly what you wanted... of course it was abused first, then corrected but hey, it was corrected.





Well he did say he would let others have time to read it... the boss pushes hard to get a job done, it got done. What the hell is the issue with that?

I hope you don't really think he goes on vacation and doesn't work.

You and a few others here spend an extraordinary amount of time defending this administration. Is this a diversion of time for you,or do actually believe the things you type here?

I won't waste my time looking at old threads,but I don't remember any of the republicans spending this much effort defending their choice during the last administration.

Amputate Your Head 08-12-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17410759)
You and a few others here spend an extraordinary amount of time defending this administration. Is this a diversion of time for you,or do actually believe the things you type here?

I won't waste my time looking at old threads,but I don't remember any of the republicans spending this much effort defending their choice during the last administration.

I defended & cheered Bush when he was "re-elected" because it was so unpopular around here, it was the obvious choice for my "position" at the time. It's the one that would generate the most views. :)
(IRL, I don't really care about either side.)

TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
the promise was that it wouldn't go up if we passed it, it got passed, I'm waiting

So you're waiting for last years budget that already set the increase into place to be different because a new bill past that isn't actually going?

Are you joking?



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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
you forget all the apologies

We do have a lot to apologize for.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
I can in no way see that the money spent on that was any kind of success

That's because you haven't looked... it was without question a success, it just wasn't as big as a success they hoped for. Republicans/Dems alike ALL used the stimulus money given to them, did the local projects, etc... and very happily took the money, saved lots of jobs, etc.

Like here in Tucson last summer the stimulus money saved Teachers jobs. I saw it directly do it with my own eyes, so saying it wasn't a success is just straight up stupidity.




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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
He promised he would be different

He is different, that's why you don't like him... however he isn't the Black Jesus and he can't make everything happen.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
no, 57 states of Islam

Hahaha, no oh god no.. how funny. He had actually visited 57 states. Being that he revisited some States more than once and the count was correct. Oh funny shit, 57 states of Islam, what a joker.




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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
I don't think anything was corrected, by leaving it out of the bank reform, I think they have a plan

Anyone that takes a bailout is restricted... the bank reform didn't need to add it twice.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17410752)
it didn't get signed during his vacation

Of course he didn't but that doesn't mean he wasn't working. He was doing other work while you and others had enough time to review it. If he just signed it, "you would without question" be bitching about him not giving anyone enough time to read it.

cambaby 08-12-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17409814)
to those talking out of their asses: all of obama's debt is a byproduct of the bush and clinton administrations. if you don't understand the road the country has taken to get where it's at, please don't take part in conversations like this. you just look silly to those who follow politics.

Obama is passing the buck as well, so when Bobby Jindal is elected are you going to say he inherited Obamas debt too? Yeah didnt think so.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17410759)
You and a few others here spend an extraordinary amount of time defending this administration. Is this a diversion of time for you,or do actually believe the things you type here?

I won't waste my time looking at old threads,but I don't remember any of the republicans spending this much effort defending their choice during the last administration.

I didn't vote for Obama, so I'm not defending a choice. You're spending your time here trying to prove he has done something wrong, how is it any different if I'm here saying you're wrong?

Everything I've said can be backed up with facts, I posted articles that backed up things I've said for months and in this post. If you're going to pretend you know something, then speak up.

Trust me... a shit ton of people Defended Bush and his policies, wars, etc. The same people bitching today about the War's support it with Bush, on this forum. The same policies (other than the patriot act) most of the Republicans on here supported with Bush, and now they think it's evil. This forum was lit up for 8 years with Bush's crazy crap, election stealing, and criminal wars.

Minte 08-12-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17410782)
I defended & cheered Bush when he was "re-elected" because it was so unpopular around here, it was the obvious choice for my "position" at the time. It's the one that would generate the most views. :)
(IRL, I don't really care about either side.)

I always thought that was for Labret's benefit. :winkwink:

Minte 08-12-2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410815)
I didn't vote for Obama, so I'm not defending a choice. You're spending your time here trying to prove he has done something wrong, how is it any different if I'm here saying you're wrong?

Everything I've said can be backed up with facts, I posted articles that backed up things I've said for months and in this post. If you're going to pretend you know something, then speak up.

Trust me... a shit ton of people Defended Bush and his policies, wars, etc. The same people bitching today about the War's support it with Bush, on this forum. The same policies (other than the patriot act) most of the Republicans on here supported with Bush, and now they think it's evil. This forum was lit up for 8 years with Bush's crazy crap, election stealing, and criminal wars.

I don't spend a lot of time on the boards. I am in my office today for a few hours so I will have to take your word on all that.

Vendzilla 08-12-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410806)
So you're waiting for last years budget that already set the increase into place to be different because a new bill past that isn't actually going?

Are you joking?

Your not getting it, because of the healthcare BS, health insurance companies are boosting their profits while they can, because the healthcare law is allowing them to, the promise of lower cost to consumers was thrown out and not covered by the 2300 pages of the bill
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We do have a lot to apologize for.
to Japan?
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That's because you haven't looked... it was without question a success, it just wasn't as big as a success they hoped for. Republicans/Dems alike ALL used the stimulus money given to them, did the local projects, etc... and very happily took the money, saved lots of jobs, etc.

Like here in Tucson last summer the stimulus money saved Teachers jobs. I saw it directly do it with my own eyes, so saying it wasn't a success is just straight up stupidity.
or like the money that went to studying monkeys on cocaine?


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He is different, that's why you don't like him... however he isn't the Black Jesus and he can't make everything happen.
Different I can handle, I don't like him because he was the promise of being different and he wasn't
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Hahaha, no oh god no.. how funny. He had actually visited 57 states. Being that he revisited some States more than once and the count was correct. Oh funny shit, 57 states of Islam, what a joker.
I understand he was probably tired and his teleprompter wasn't working, but school kids got kinda confused when he said 57 states and there is really 57 states of Islam




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Anyone that takes a bailout is restricted... the bank reform didn't need to add it twice.
I remember them complaining about the lack of restrictions

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Of course he didn't but that doesn't mean he wasn't working. He was doing other work while you and others had enough time to review it. If he just signed it, "you would without question" be bitching about him not giving anyone enough time to read it.
more than likely playing hoops

12clicks 08-12-2010 02:37 PM

Anyone who labels the afghan or Iraq wars as "criminal wars" is an idiot. Either for their stupidity or their agenda.

The idiocy of it makes intelligent people shake their head

Gouge 08-12-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17410626)
Something like 18,000 people showed up to listen to him, on a work day in the middle of the day, that's a huge turn out for one of the deep red states in the Country with a huge tea party following that hardly showed up. Lots of democrats shook his hand.

http://media-files.gather.com/images...96/f3/full.jpg

Just going by the % of uneducated people looking for handouts he could get 18K in any state he was to visit so its not the big of a deal.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411026)
Anyone who labels the afghan or Iraq wars as "criminal wars" is an idiot. Either for their stupidity or their agenda.

The idiocy of it makes intelligent people shake their head

Oh look the pass-by-troll adding his :2 cents: which really amounts to not saying shit! Nobody said Afghan was a criminal war... If you want to try to offer some proof that Iraq wasn't, I will gladly pawn your ass.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17411024)
Your not getting it, because of the healthcare BS, health insurance companies are boosting their profits while they can, because the healthcare law is allowing them to, the promise of lower cost to consumers was thrown out and not covered by the 2300 pages of the bill

Every insurance company was going to raise the rates either way... they didn't raise it because of the bill, they already planned on raising them. Another words, if no bill happened, they still would have went up, just like they do every few years.

Again... foot in the door, it's not going to be perfect from day one and "NOBODY" should expect that.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17411024)
to Japan?

The American People, Iraq, Afghan, Japan, Vietnam and I'm sure I could think of a few totally fucked up things we've done.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17411024)
or like the money that went to studying monkeys on cocaine?

Rightt... again, these are things like Mc Cain puts in and the house/senate won't let pass without it... blaming Obama, is extremely stupid.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17411024)
Different I can handle, I don't like him because he was the promise of being different and he wasn't

So he's just a normal democrat doing what we always do now? Hehe... not any different eh? Boy he sure has created a shit storm for not doing anything different.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17411024)
I understand he was probably tired and his teleprompter wasn't working, but school kids got kinda confused when he said 57 states and there is really 57 states of Islam

So adults are kids now, video I saw had adults all around him. It's sad that you get stuck on this at all, even .01% makes it completely pathetic. Even trying to relate to Islam, my god man, that's crazy.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17411024)
I remember them complaining about the lack of restrictions

I'm sure they could have more restrictions, but on bonus/payouts, etc... that was restricted because it was being abused.

xholly 08-12-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17410478)
reread the following. + do some research on the # of casualties resulting from the daily bombings of japan. i find it sad you think a japanese human has less value than others.

Of course you can kill a lot of people with conventional bombing of cities too, no doubt about that. The allies were experts by 1945 however it's effectiveness at reducing a countries war machine vs humanitarian cost is something that can be debated.

As far as a Japanese life having less value, I thought my comment was obvious sarcasm that would be easily spotted.

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17411145)
Of course you can kill a lot of people with conventional bombing of cities too, no doubt about that. The allies were experts by 1945 however it's effectiveness at reducing a countries war machine vs humanitarian cost is something that can be debated.

As far as a Japanese life having less value, I thought my comment was obvious sarcasm that would be easily spotted.

there's really no debate on the # of deaths daily. those are undisputed facts. it's also a fact, we had ZERO idea of the real impact of those bombs other than they were the latest and greatest weapons and used to end the war- period. and it's also a fact that was a real war, i.e. attack the civilians/cities. no smart bombs around. geneva convention rules only.


my comment regarding your view of the japanese was sarcasm as well.

it's easy to apply today's views to something that occurred almost 70 years ago, things have changed and it's not really accurate or fair to point fingers at the u.s. about dropping those bombs.

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17411145)
Of course you can kill a lot of people with conventional bombing of cities too, no doubt about that. The allies were experts by 1945

how many cities did the axis powers bomb?

xholly 08-12-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17411174)
it's easy to apply today's views to something that occurred almost 70 years ago, things have changed and it's not really accurate or fair to point fingers at the u.s. about dropping those bombs.

For sure, total war is a messed up thing and i'm not pointing the finger at the US, i'm just undecided if it was necessary or not. I also lost a relative to the Japanese in that war and am glad they were finally defeated.

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:48 PM

how many 10s of millions of civilians did the japanese kill during WWII?

xholly 08-12-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17411187)
how many cities did the axis powers bomb?

as many as they could, but they were loosing and so were surpassed by the allies at it. Again total war is messed up.

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17411193)
For sure, total war is a messed up thing and i'm not pointing the finger at the US, i'm just undecided if it was necessary or not. I also lost a relative to the Japanese in that war and am glad they were finally defeated.

i see. perhaps i misunderstood the point of your bringing up the point then.

xholly 08-12-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17411200)
i see. perhaps i misunderstood the point of your bringing up the point then.

well my point was simply that all governments and nations are capable of killing and doing bad things to their enemies. None are clean. tho some are far worse than others of course

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17411207)
well my point was simply that all governments and nations are capable of killing and doing bad things to their enemies. None are clean.

gotcha! very true. :)

Bill8 08-12-2010 06:13 PM

sorry if this is a repeat but I dont have time to wade thru three pages of bagger bullshit.

i for one totally believe in ben quayle as a bagger candidate. Palin/Quayle 2012!

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/dai...8/post-36.html

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One of the purveyors of TheDirty.com (né DirtyScottsdale.com), a Web site that aggregates pictures of attractive women and invites viewers to nitpick their appearance, revealed the identity of one of the message board?s most prolix patrons. The Dirty founder Scott Karamian claimed in a blog post yesterday that the pseudonym Brock Landers belonged to one Ben Quayle, son of former vice president Dan Quayle, and current Republican Congressional candidate from Arizona. The Washington Post reports: ?Quayle had a featured section on the site, Karamian said, called ?Brock?s Chick,? in which he sought to ?find the hottest chick in Scottsdale.? He added that ?Without Ben, there would be no TheDirty.com.??

At first, Quayle denied his connection to The Dirty and the filthy things therein, but Karamian responded to Quayle?s dismissal of the charges with a message to the candidate: ?I am not attacking you, I am just being honest. Stop listening to your bull sh*t advisors because they are making you look stupid. If you don?t remember me or Brock Landers that is cool. I guess I don?t remember the time you banged [redacted] (a chick) in my spare bedroom. I just let randoms spend the night and have sex with strangers? should I continue?? he asked, we believe rhetorically. Finally, Quayle admitted that he ?just posted comments to try to drive some traffic? but insisted he was not Brock Landers. We covered our keyboard in Saran-wrap and Purell and made our way through the archives of the site, picking out postings from ?Brock Landers.? Our five favorites (favorites?) after the jump.

? ?I was sitting at a table at the Mirage last April and this Kate Goslin look alike stumbled by with some black dude hanging all over him. They were both totally tanked and heading straight for the elevators.?

? ?ummmmmmmmmm???she looks like she could be his daughter - they both have the same kind of pug-face, boxer who took too many shots to the nose look, eh??

? ?Does anyone notice the guy in the middle of the second picture. That jackass was on the Dirty about 3-4 weeks ago with his little homo friend. They must run in packs.?

? ?may I smell yo finger pleeeze?

? ?If I was around she wouldn?t EVER need butt floss?

And, finally, the Brock?s Chick manifesto:

?As I wrote in my first post, every once in awhile I will post a picture of a foxy lady who resides in Scottsdale. I requested submissions from the DS readers, and thanks to all of your emails, I received a whopping zero pictures. Jesus?I almost feel like the kid who eats paste in elementary school?almost.
Fortunately, after spending a night sitting on my couch, in the dark, with a bottle of whiskey, rhythmically flicking the switch on my table side lamp on and off, I remembered that I had the entire DS picture vault at my disposal. Flush with this realization, and coupled with the fact that I have a king-sized ego that can overcome any emotional setbacks, I poured through the numerous pictures on file at the DS headquarters and found the first lady worthy of some recognition.?


For the record, Quayle is running on a platform of ?Barack Obama is the worst president ever? and not ?leadership means sitting in the dark with a bottle of whiskey.?
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http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/12...-wants-to.html

12clicks 08-12-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17411073)
Oh look the pass-by-troll adding his :2 cents: which really amounts to not saying shit! Nobody said Afghan was a criminal war... If you want to try to offer some proof that Iraq wasn't, I will gladly pawn your ass.

Sure you will, punk. :1orglaugh
Here's my proof, you're an idiot and George bush isn't in jail.
Spin it all you want. You're simply an idiot

fatfoo 08-12-2010 07:55 PM

I saw a speech by Barack Obama on Television about how he wants to make the USA health care system closer to Canada's health care system. I agree with that.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411675)
Sure you will, punk. :1orglaugh
Here's my proof, you're an idiot and George bush isn't in jail.
Spin it all you want. You're simply an idiot

That's proof nobody did anything about it... good job! Such a brilliant one you are.

You know, just because I'm slightly bored and you're a douche bag, I'll show you why again you're a clueless moron.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.J.RES.114:

Section 3, paragraph B. Bush has to prove to Congress that Iraq was in violation of the UN Resolutions by possessing wmd's and secondly in Paragraph B part 2, that Iraq was behind 9-11.

Hello...... that's an illegal war when you don't provide the info and the information you do provide was proven to be false. Just because someone doesn't take legal action, doesn't mean it's not criminal. Just like the drugs at the shows, not like it stopped being criminal because they didn't get caught.

Best be cleaning up those shorts now shit stain.

$5 submissions 08-12-2010 08:18 PM

In history??? That's quite a stretch. Jimmy Carter's administration oversaw massive interest rates and sky high inflation. Obama's got his issues but he's not "the worst" in "history". That's over 220 years to compare to. Unfair much?

Gouge 08-12-2010 08:43 PM

Barry Soetoro is very close to being the worst right behind Grover Cleveland and Jimmy Carter so i have to agree with Ben Quayle to some degree.

12clicks 08-12-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17411785)
That's proof nobody did anything about it... good job! Such a brilliant one you are.

You know, just because I'm slightly bored and you're a douche bag, I'll show you why again you're a clueless moron.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.J.RES.114:

Section 3, paragraph B. Bush has to prove to Congress that Iraq was in violation of the UN Resolutions by possessing wmd's and secondly in Paragraph B part 2, that Iraq was behind 9-11.

Hello...... that's an illegal war when you don't provide the info and the information you do provide was proven to be false. Just because someone doesn't take legal action, doesn't mean it's not criminal. Just like the drugs at the shows, not like it stopped being criminal because they didn't get caught.

Best be cleaning up those shorts now shit stain.

Ahahaha,
Sure punk. As expected. The mighty doc says it's illegal so it must be so.
Ouch, I'm owned.:1orglaugh

Ace_luffy 08-13-2010 12:58 AM

how about Pres. Bush ? he's the best president ?

directfiesta 08-13-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411026)
Anyone who labels the afghan or Iraq wars as "criminal wars" is an idiot. Either for their stupidity or their agenda.

The idiocy of it makes intelligent people shake their head

true .. just like Iraq invading Kuwait was quite OK also ....

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411839)
Ahahaha,
Sure punk. As expected. The mighty doc says it's illegal so it must be so.
Ouch, I'm owned.:1orglaugh

jesus, give it a rest. The only one that thinks you're awesome is you dude.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17411108)
Every insurance company was going to raise the rates either way... they didn't raise it because of the bill, they already planned on raising them. Another words, if no bill happened, they still would have went up, just like they do every few years.

Again... foot in the door, it's not going to be perfect from day one and "NOBODY" should expect that.

But Barry promised that passing the bill would prevent that

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The American People, Iraq, Afghan, Japan, Vietnam and I'm sure I could think of a few totally fucked up things we've done.
Fuck them, Japan attacked us, Afghan attacked us, Vietnam was a staging for USSR to train against us.
We've spent shit loads in aid to these countries
We should pull our aid, pull our bases, then they would be begging us to come back

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Rightt... again, these are things like Mc Cain puts in and the house/senate won't let pass without it... blaming Obama, is extremely stupid.

So throwing McCain's name in there excuses Barry for signing a bill with 9,000 ear marks when he promise there wouldn't be any?

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So he's just a normal democrat doing what we always do now? Hehe... not any different eh? Boy he sure has created a shit storm for not doing anything different.
Breaking promises far and above what I consider reasonable


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So adults are kids now, video I saw had adults all around him. It's sad that you get stuck on this at all, even .01% makes it completely pathetic. Even trying to relate to Islam, my god man, that's crazy.

Check the facts, there really is 57 states in Islam, think about it, would you in a million years say there was 57 states?, Remember , this guy is a ivy leaguer
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I'm sure they could have more restrictions, but on bonus/payouts, etc... that was restricted because it was being abused.
the bail out worked pretty good at paying the people that got us in this mess
the stimulus package, or recovery act was a complete waste of money

tony286 08-13-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
But Barry promised that passing the bill would prevent that


Fuck them, Japan attacked us, Afghan attacked us, Vietnam was a staging for USSR to train against us.
We've spent shit loads in aid to these countries
We should pull our aid, pull our bases, then they would be begging us to come back



So throwing McCain's name in there excuses Barry for signing a bill with 9,000 ear marks when he promise there wouldn't be any?


Breaking promises far and above what I consider reasonable



Check the facts, there really is 57 states in Islam, think about it, would you in a million years say there was 57 states?, Remember , this guy is a ivy leaguer


the bail out worked pretty good at paying the people that got us in this mess
the stimulus package, or recovery act was a complete waste of money

fyi Bush signed and pushed for the tarp(the bank bail out)

Pics Traffic 08-13-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411839)
Ahahaha,
Sure punk. As expected. The mighty doc says it's illegal so it must be so.
Ouch, I'm owned.:1orglaugh

Teflon x 5

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Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
Afghan attacked us...

:eek7


Interesting version of history you have there. I thought it was the other way around.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17412756)
fyi Bush signed and pushed for the tarp(the bank bail out)

Bush signed the tarp, didn't most of that get paid back?

Obama did the stimulus, it didn't work for shit

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412760)
:eek7


Interesting version of history you have there. I thought it was the other way around.

They had Osama living there, thats what started that attack
Osama attacked us, we struck back

Minte 08-13-2010 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412760)
:eek7


Interesting version of history you have there. I thought it was the other way around.

You can connect the dots there.. Afghan - Al Qaeda - 9/11

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412776)
They had Osama living there, thats what started that attack
Osama attacked us, we struck back

Osama does not = Afghanistan

Using that logic, we should have attacked ourselves after McVeigh blew up OK fed building.

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17412781)
You can connect the dots there.. Afghan - Al Qaeda - 9/11

Bin Laden is a Saudi. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

Tom_PM 08-13-2010 09:23 AM

It's friday, so here's this thread in the form of a picture.
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tony286 08-13-2010 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412769)
Bush signed the tarp, didn't most of that get paid back?

Obama did the stimulus, it didn't work for shit

You blamed barry for the stimlus and paying them bankers and paying the bankers was georgie.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412783)
Osama does not = Afghanistan

Using that logic, we should have attacked ourselves after McVeigh blew up OK fed building.

If Afghanistan lets him be there, to operate there, then they are responsible for his actions

tony286 08-13-2010 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412786)
Bin Laden is a Saudi. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

actually most of the attackers were saudi.And W was walking holding hands with them.

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412795)
If Afghanistan lets him be there, to operate there, then they are responsible for his actions

Would you feel the same way if Bin Laden had decided to run & hide in Tibet instead?



I didn't think so.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412786)
Bin Laden is a Saudi. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

LOL, thats a fucking plan, McVeigh was of Scottish descent, so we should have attacked scotland?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17412792)
You blamed barry for the stimlus and paying them bankers and paying the bankers was georgie.

I'm not even sure what you're talking about at this point

Barry signed the stimulus, it has had dismal results, or do you like the 9.5% unemployment rate?
Bush signed the TARP, banks and auto industry paid back most of it, well sort of, considering the low interst rate they were given made it pretty easy and I think we own 80% of freddie and fannie

Pics Traffic 08-13-2010 09:36 AM

Where do you find time to do any work Vendzilla? You spend half a day talking about Obama and shit.


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