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xholly 08-12-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17411187)
how many cities did the axis powers bomb?

as many as they could, but they were loosing and so were surpassed by the allies at it. Again total war is messed up.

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17411193)
For sure, total war is a messed up thing and i'm not pointing the finger at the US, i'm just undecided if it was necessary or not. I also lost a relative to the Japanese in that war and am glad they were finally defeated.

i see. perhaps i misunderstood the point of your bringing up the point then.

xholly 08-12-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17411200)
i see. perhaps i misunderstood the point of your bringing up the point then.

well my point was simply that all governments and nations are capable of killing and doing bad things to their enemies. None are clean. tho some are far worse than others of course

dyna mo 08-12-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xholly (Post 17411207)
well my point was simply that all governments and nations are capable of killing and doing bad things to their enemies. None are clean.

gotcha! very true. :)

Bill8 08-12-2010 06:13 PM

sorry if this is a repeat but I dont have time to wade thru three pages of bagger bullshit.

i for one totally believe in ben quayle as a bagger candidate. Palin/Quayle 2012!

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/dai...8/post-36.html

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One of the purveyors of TheDirty.com (né DirtyScottsdale.com), a Web site that aggregates pictures of attractive women and invites viewers to nitpick their appearance, revealed the identity of one of the message board?s most prolix patrons. The Dirty founder Scott Karamian claimed in a blog post yesterday that the pseudonym Brock Landers belonged to one Ben Quayle, son of former vice president Dan Quayle, and current Republican Congressional candidate from Arizona. The Washington Post reports: ?Quayle had a featured section on the site, Karamian said, called ?Brock?s Chick,? in which he sought to ?find the hottest chick in Scottsdale.? He added that ?Without Ben, there would be no TheDirty.com.??

At first, Quayle denied his connection to The Dirty and the filthy things therein, but Karamian responded to Quayle?s dismissal of the charges with a message to the candidate: ?I am not attacking you, I am just being honest. Stop listening to your bull sh*t advisors because they are making you look stupid. If you don?t remember me or Brock Landers that is cool. I guess I don?t remember the time you banged [redacted] (a chick) in my spare bedroom. I just let randoms spend the night and have sex with strangers? should I continue?? he asked, we believe rhetorically. Finally, Quayle admitted that he ?just posted comments to try to drive some traffic? but insisted he was not Brock Landers. We covered our keyboard in Saran-wrap and Purell and made our way through the archives of the site, picking out postings from ?Brock Landers.? Our five favorites (favorites?) after the jump.

? ?I was sitting at a table at the Mirage last April and this Kate Goslin look alike stumbled by with some black dude hanging all over him. They were both totally tanked and heading straight for the elevators.?

? ?ummmmmmmmmm???she looks like she could be his daughter - they both have the same kind of pug-face, boxer who took too many shots to the nose look, eh??

? ?Does anyone notice the guy in the middle of the second picture. That jackass was on the Dirty about 3-4 weeks ago with his little homo friend. They must run in packs.?

? ?may I smell yo finger pleeeze?

? ?If I was around she wouldn?t EVER need butt floss?

And, finally, the Brock?s Chick manifesto:

?As I wrote in my first post, every once in awhile I will post a picture of a foxy lady who resides in Scottsdale. I requested submissions from the DS readers, and thanks to all of your emails, I received a whopping zero pictures. Jesus?I almost feel like the kid who eats paste in elementary school?almost.
Fortunately, after spending a night sitting on my couch, in the dark, with a bottle of whiskey, rhythmically flicking the switch on my table side lamp on and off, I remembered that I had the entire DS picture vault at my disposal. Flush with this realization, and coupled with the fact that I have a king-sized ego that can overcome any emotional setbacks, I poured through the numerous pictures on file at the DS headquarters and found the first lady worthy of some recognition.?


For the record, Quayle is running on a platform of ?Barack Obama is the worst president ever? and not ?leadership means sitting in the dark with a bottle of whiskey.?
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http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/12...-wants-to.html

12clicks 08-12-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17411073)
Oh look the pass-by-troll adding his :2 cents: which really amounts to not saying shit! Nobody said Afghan was a criminal war... If you want to try to offer some proof that Iraq wasn't, I will gladly pawn your ass.

Sure you will, punk. :1orglaugh
Here's my proof, you're an idiot and George bush isn't in jail.
Spin it all you want. You're simply an idiot

fatfoo 08-12-2010 07:55 PM

I saw a speech by Barack Obama on Television about how he wants to make the USA health care system closer to Canada's health care system. I agree with that.

TheDoc 08-12-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411675)
Sure you will, punk. :1orglaugh
Here's my proof, you're an idiot and George bush isn't in jail.
Spin it all you want. You're simply an idiot

That's proof nobody did anything about it... good job! Such a brilliant one you are.

You know, just because I'm slightly bored and you're a douche bag, I'll show you why again you're a clueless moron.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.J.RES.114:

Section 3, paragraph B. Bush has to prove to Congress that Iraq was in violation of the UN Resolutions by possessing wmd's and secondly in Paragraph B part 2, that Iraq was behind 9-11.

Hello...... that's an illegal war when you don't provide the info and the information you do provide was proven to be false. Just because someone doesn't take legal action, doesn't mean it's not criminal. Just like the drugs at the shows, not like it stopped being criminal because they didn't get caught.

Best be cleaning up those shorts now shit stain.

$5 submissions 08-12-2010 08:18 PM

In history??? That's quite a stretch. Jimmy Carter's administration oversaw massive interest rates and sky high inflation. Obama's got his issues but he's not "the worst" in "history". That's over 220 years to compare to. Unfair much?

Gouge 08-12-2010 08:43 PM

Barry Soetoro is very close to being the worst right behind Grover Cleveland and Jimmy Carter so i have to agree with Ben Quayle to some degree.

12clicks 08-12-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17411785)
That's proof nobody did anything about it... good job! Such a brilliant one you are.

You know, just because I'm slightly bored and you're a douche bag, I'll show you why again you're a clueless moron.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.J.RES.114:

Section 3, paragraph B. Bush has to prove to Congress that Iraq was in violation of the UN Resolutions by possessing wmd's and secondly in Paragraph B part 2, that Iraq was behind 9-11.

Hello...... that's an illegal war when you don't provide the info and the information you do provide was proven to be false. Just because someone doesn't take legal action, doesn't mean it's not criminal. Just like the drugs at the shows, not like it stopped being criminal because they didn't get caught.

Best be cleaning up those shorts now shit stain.

Ahahaha,
Sure punk. As expected. The mighty doc says it's illegal so it must be so.
Ouch, I'm owned.:1orglaugh

Ace_luffy 08-13-2010 12:58 AM

how about Pres. Bush ? he's the best president ?

directfiesta 08-13-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411026)
Anyone who labels the afghan or Iraq wars as "criminal wars" is an idiot. Either for their stupidity or their agenda.

The idiocy of it makes intelligent people shake their head

true .. just like Iraq invading Kuwait was quite OK also ....

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411839)
Ahahaha,
Sure punk. As expected. The mighty doc says it's illegal so it must be so.
Ouch, I'm owned.:1orglaugh

jesus, give it a rest. The only one that thinks you're awesome is you dude.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17411108)
Every insurance company was going to raise the rates either way... they didn't raise it because of the bill, they already planned on raising them. Another words, if no bill happened, they still would have went up, just like they do every few years.

Again... foot in the door, it's not going to be perfect from day one and "NOBODY" should expect that.

But Barry promised that passing the bill would prevent that

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The American People, Iraq, Afghan, Japan, Vietnam and I'm sure I could think of a few totally fucked up things we've done.
Fuck them, Japan attacked us, Afghan attacked us, Vietnam was a staging for USSR to train against us.
We've spent shit loads in aid to these countries
We should pull our aid, pull our bases, then they would be begging us to come back

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Rightt... again, these are things like Mc Cain puts in and the house/senate won't let pass without it... blaming Obama, is extremely stupid.

So throwing McCain's name in there excuses Barry for signing a bill with 9,000 ear marks when he promise there wouldn't be any?

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So he's just a normal democrat doing what we always do now? Hehe... not any different eh? Boy he sure has created a shit storm for not doing anything different.
Breaking promises far and above what I consider reasonable


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So adults are kids now, video I saw had adults all around him. It's sad that you get stuck on this at all, even .01% makes it completely pathetic. Even trying to relate to Islam, my god man, that's crazy.

Check the facts, there really is 57 states in Islam, think about it, would you in a million years say there was 57 states?, Remember , this guy is a ivy leaguer
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I'm sure they could have more restrictions, but on bonus/payouts, etc... that was restricted because it was being abused.
the bail out worked pretty good at paying the people that got us in this mess
the stimulus package, or recovery act was a complete waste of money

tony286 08-13-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
But Barry promised that passing the bill would prevent that


Fuck them, Japan attacked us, Afghan attacked us, Vietnam was a staging for USSR to train against us.
We've spent shit loads in aid to these countries
We should pull our aid, pull our bases, then they would be begging us to come back



So throwing McCain's name in there excuses Barry for signing a bill with 9,000 ear marks when he promise there wouldn't be any?


Breaking promises far and above what I consider reasonable



Check the facts, there really is 57 states in Islam, think about it, would you in a million years say there was 57 states?, Remember , this guy is a ivy leaguer


the bail out worked pretty good at paying the people that got us in this mess
the stimulus package, or recovery act was a complete waste of money

fyi Bush signed and pushed for the tarp(the bank bail out)

Pics Traffic 08-13-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17411839)
Ahahaha,
Sure punk. As expected. The mighty doc says it's illegal so it must be so.
Ouch, I'm owned.:1orglaugh

Teflon x 5

http://www.cleanandhealthyme.org/Por...ges/teflon.jpg

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
Afghan attacked us...

:eek7


Interesting version of history you have there. I thought it was the other way around.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17412756)
fyi Bush signed and pushed for the tarp(the bank bail out)

Bush signed the tarp, didn't most of that get paid back?

Obama did the stimulus, it didn't work for shit

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412760)
:eek7


Interesting version of history you have there. I thought it was the other way around.

They had Osama living there, thats what started that attack
Osama attacked us, we struck back

Minte 08-13-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412760)
:eek7


Interesting version of history you have there. I thought it was the other way around.

You can connect the dots there.. Afghan - Al Qaeda - 9/11

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412776)
They had Osama living there, thats what started that attack
Osama attacked us, we struck back

Osama does not = Afghanistan

Using that logic, we should have attacked ourselves after McVeigh blew up OK fed building.

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17412781)
You can connect the dots there.. Afghan - Al Qaeda - 9/11

Bin Laden is a Saudi. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

Tom_PM 08-13-2010 09:23 AM

It's friday, so here's this thread in the form of a picture.
http://www.commansentence.com/wp-con.../bully_big.jpg

tony286 08-13-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412769)
Bush signed the tarp, didn't most of that get paid back?

Obama did the stimulus, it didn't work for shit

You blamed barry for the stimlus and paying them bankers and paying the bankers was georgie.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412783)
Osama does not = Afghanistan

Using that logic, we should have attacked ourselves after McVeigh blew up OK fed building.

If Afghanistan lets him be there, to operate there, then they are responsible for his actions

tony286 08-13-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412786)
Bin Laden is a Saudi. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

actually most of the attackers were saudi.And W was walking holding hands with them.

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412795)
If Afghanistan lets him be there, to operate there, then they are responsible for his actions

Would you feel the same way if Bin Laden had decided to run & hide in Tibet instead?



I didn't think so.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412786)
Bin Laden is a Saudi. We should have attacked Saudi Arabia, not Afghanistan.

LOL, thats a fucking plan, McVeigh was of Scottish descent, so we should have attacked scotland?

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17412792)
You blamed barry for the stimlus and paying them bankers and paying the bankers was georgie.

I'm not even sure what you're talking about at this point

Barry signed the stimulus, it has had dismal results, or do you like the 9.5% unemployment rate?
Bush signed the TARP, banks and auto industry paid back most of it, well sort of, considering the low interst rate they were given made it pretty easy and I think we own 80% of freddie and fannie

Pics Traffic 08-13-2010 09:36 AM

Where do you find time to do any work Vendzilla? You spend half a day talking about Obama and shit.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412800)
Would you feel the same way if Bin Laden had decided to run & hide in Tibet instead?



I didn't think so.

LOL, if they were from Tibet, we wouldn't had to do anything, the chinese would have killed them all

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412837)
LOL, if they were from Tibet, we wouldn't had to do anything, the chinese would have killed them all

My point was, if he had been in Chinese territory, you wouldn't be singing the praises of war. It's easy to bomb the shit out of a bunch of dirt farmers in robes. Quite something else to take on someone that is capable of defending themselves. Bin Laden has as much to do with the country of Afghanistan as McVeigh had to do with Scotland.

directfiesta 08-13-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412822)
LOL, thats a fucking plan, McVeigh was of Scottish descent, so we should have attacked scotland?



LOL ... what a simple mind :

- McVeigh was AMERICAN, living in the US of A .... He attacked the USA ... so Oklahoma should have been blwned up ... lol

Lets suppose that Saddam Hussein was on his yacht ( I take that example as you are familiar with ships ... ) in the waters of Italy ( or docked at Naples or hiding in Sicilia) . And lets suppose he was masterminding an attack on the Sears building by flying planes piloted by 80% Iraquis .... and succeeds ....

Who would you retaliate ( attack ) against ? and why ?

TheDoc 08-13-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
But Barry promised that passing the bill would prevent that

You seem confused on what was said... People on Medicare that make money, will see rates go up. If you're a poor senior citizen, then you won't see them go up.

Feb 2009 - Source "President Obama to Propose Medicare Premium Increase for Top 5% of Recipients" Which doesn't even start until 2011.

Just to point out he didn't say nobodies Medicare premiums would go up. It's the 'types' of Medicare he pointed out that wouldn't go up.

If you're on Medicare B, ie: Your dad makes money? They do increase those rates, for sure when you make more money and plan B has all types of odd things that do come out of pocket and for sure the more money you make.

All of which has nothing to do with Obamacare and nothing with his healthcare plan or what he said about it.

Source





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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
Fuck them, Japan attacked us, Afghan attacked us, Vietnam was a staging for USSR to train against us.
We've spent shit loads in aid to these countries
We should pull our aid, pull our bases, then they would be begging us to come back

They attack us and we dropped a bomb on innocent people? Afgan damn sure didn't attack us. Lots of Countries are against us, should we attack them all?

Yep we have, that's another way of us saying sorry for fucking your worlds up. Obama was just man enough to say it with his mouth.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
So throwing McCain's name in there excuses Barry for signing a bill with 9,000 ear marks when he promise there wouldn't be any?

So basically, you're saying he should have done nothing, thus stall the economy more. Cause it's not like Obama wrote it, the McCain's did... and it's not like it would have passed without them in it.

In the end, yes he broke a promise, one that makes zero difference and truly, 'our' elected officials are responsible for doing and then turning around and railing against.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
Breaking promises far and above what I consider reasonable

As already proven, he's broken very few and it's still less than any other President. Again, your hate for Obama is completely miss guided.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
Check the facts, there really is 57 states in Islam, think about it, would you in a million years say there was 57 states?, Remember , this guy is a ivy leaguer

Yeah, none of us ever mess up such simple words or numbers... of course he's not allowed to ever screw up because he's an ivy leaguer, I'm sure he's never lost a case either. He's just that damn good.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412740)
the bail out worked pretty good at paying the people that got us in this mess
the stimulus package, or recovery act was a complete waste of money

Don't blame Obama for the bailout... he didn't sign it.

The stimulus did work though, yes some parts didn't but some parts without question did work. Many many many States used that money for highway projects, repairs, schools, police, fire departments, and things to generate money in cities/states. All of which hired U.S. Companies to do the work, etc.. Without question it was not a complete waste.

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412846)
My point was, if he had been in Chinese territory, you wouldn't be singing the praises of war. It's easy to bomb the shit out of a bunch of dirt farmers in robes. Quite something else to take on someone that is capable of defending themselves. Bin Laden has as much to do with the country of Afghanistan as McVeigh had to do with Scotland.

and my point was an attack was made on American Soil, we went after the people that did the attack.
I do believe we shouldn't have stayed there, I don't believe in occupation

Amputate Your Head 08-13-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412858)
and my point was an attack was made on American Soil, we went after the people that did the attack.
I do believe we shouldn't have stayed there, I don't believe in occupation

We fully attacked a country that Bin Laden is not even a citizen of. That's the bottom line. He could have gone anywhere. Did you forget the man is rich? What I'm getting from you is that we should have attacked any country he might have been in. That's not rational or sane. What if had gone into hiding in the UK? Canada? Japan? Maui? Should we bomb the fuck out of Maui?

TheDoc 08-13-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17412861)
We fully attacked a country that Bin Laden is not even a citizen of. That's the bottom line. He could have gone anywhere. Did you forget the man is rich? What I'm getting from you is that we should have attacked any country he might have been in. That's not rational or sane.

Yet, he things we should pull out of Afghan too...

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17412855)
LOL ... what a simple mind :

- McVeigh was AMERICAN, living in the US of A .... He attacked the USA ... so Oklahoma should have been blwned up ... lol

Lets suppose that Saddam Hussein was on his yacht ( I take that example as you are familiar with ships ... ) in the waters of Italy ( or docked at Naples or hiding in Sicilia) . And lets suppose he was masterminding an attack on the Sears building by flying planes piloted by 80% Iraquis .... and succeeds ....

Who would you retaliate ( attack ) against ? and why ?

What a fucking moron, read for 5 minutes before replying you fucking idiot

And BTW, for being so concerned about my spelling, you're getting an "F"

directfiesta 08-13-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17412868)
What a fucking moron, read for 5 minutes before replying you fucking idiot

And BTW, for being so concerned about my spelling, you're getting an "F"

lol .....

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:_...3-bulb.jpg&t=1

Vendzilla 08-13-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 17412856)
You seem confused on what was said... People on Medicare that make money, will see rates go up. If you're a poor senior citizen, then you won't see them go up.

Feb 2009 - Source "President Obama to Propose Medicare Premium Increase for Top 5% of Recipients" Which doesn't even start until 2011.

Just to point out he didn't say nobodies Medicare premiums would go up. It's the 'types' of Medicare he pointed out that wouldn't go up.

If you're on Medicare B, ie: Your dad makes money? They do increase those rates, for sure when you make more money and plan B has all types of odd things that do come out of pocket and for sure the more money you make.

All of which has nothing to do with Obamacare and nothing with his healthcare plan or what he said about it.

Source

My parents have money, not income, so the top 5% doesn't apply



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They attack us and we dropped a bomb on innocent people? Afgan damn sure didn't attack us. Lots of Countries are against us, should we attack them all?

Yep we have, that's another way of us saying sorry for fucking your worlds up. Obama was just man enough to say it with his mouth.
Like I said, pull our support, pull our bases, pull our protection, 6 months later, they will be begging for us to come back

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So basically, you're saying he should have done nothing, thus stall the economy more. Cause it's not like Obama wrote it, the McCain's did... and it's not like it would have passed without them in it.

In the end, yes he broke a promise, one that makes zero difference and truly, 'our' elected officials are responsible for doing and then turning around and railing against.
NO, Barry should have worked with the GOP instead of being an asshat and just working with the democrats, the stimulus bill should have gone to bolster small business and gets job growth, not over regulation and scaring business from hiring
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As already proven, he's broken very few and it's still less than any other President. Again, your hate for Obama is completely miss guided.
I'm sure you can find that pony in that pile of horse shit
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Yeah, none of us ever mess up such simple words or numbers... of course he's not allowed to ever screw up because he's an ivy leaguer, I'm sure he's never lost a case either. He's just that damn good.
LOL, so there is 57 states in the US?

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Don't blame Obama for the bailout... he didn't sign it.
I can blame him for anything I want, but I do blame him for the way the money was handled
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The stimulus did work though, yes some parts didn't but some parts without question did work. Many many many States used that money for highway projects, repairs, schools, police, fire departments, and things to generate money in cities/states. All of which hired U.S. Companies to do the work, etc.. Without question it was not a complete waste.
1.5 billion went to China Company for wind turbines, most of the parts were built here, but the profit all went to China, and you know there was a lot of it if it's a government project


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