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Semi-Retired-Dave 08-19-2010 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17427381)
you don't know what you are talking about, but thanks for playing.

Actually, I know what I am talking about but since you have your own thoughts on things. No need to debate. Keep playing.

baddog 08-19-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17427381)
you don't know what you are talking about, but thanks for playing.

From the guy that has to keep changing handles. :1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-19-2010 12:17 PM

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Middle Men is playing today (8/19) in San Francisco on 10 screens, and has 23 showings.

When I key in tomorrow (Friday 8/20), it shows that it is will be on just 2 screens with only 5 showings.

In the South Bay (San Jose, etc) it is playing today on 9 screens, with 15 showings.

It is scheduled to be on only 1 screen with 2 showings tomorrow. :helpme

In LA, it is showing today on 10 screens, with 24 showings, and Friday, only on 2 screens with 6 showings.

These cities represent more than 10% of the 252 screens the movie has been showing on.

Similar pattern for NYC.

The theatrical future of Middle Men appears to be dim...

ADG

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-19-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17427406)
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/...tanic-fail.jpg

Middle Men is playing today (8/19) in San Francisco on 10 screens, and has 23 showings.

When I key in tomorrow (Friday 8/20), it shows that it is will be on just 2 screens with only 5 showings.

In the South Bay (San Jose, etc) it is playing today on 9 screens, with 15 showings.

It is scheduled to be on only 1 screen with two showings tomorrow. :helpme

In LA, it is showing today on 10 screens, with 24 showings, and Friday, only on 2 screens with 6 showings.

Similar pattern for NYC.

The theatrical future of Middle Men appears to be dim...

ADG

You are so informative, who needs Yahoo. :1orglaugh

Kelli58 08-19-2010 12:20 PM

I'm sorry to hear that this movie didn't have more success than this.

Relentless 08-19-2010 12:29 PM

I'd expect them to end up profitable in the long run...

What this movie does reinforce is the fact that a movie like Avatar making a gazillion dollars really is an amazing accomplishment. Generating that kind of push for anything, let alone 3 hours of sitting in a dark room full of strangers is a hell of a task. :2 cents:

Pipecrew 08-19-2010 12:31 PM

can you see if its playing in miami anywhere? i cant find it anywhere

FrozenJag 08-19-2010 12:41 PM

My worry is does this put Epass as a company in jeopardy? Many of us have significant money in their hands. Shall I submit for a wire?

Just saying im a bit concerned.

wig 08-19-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 17427480)
My worry is does this put Epass as a company in jeopardy? Many of us have significant money in their hands. Shall I submit for a wire?

Just saying im a bit concerned.

You really believe the movie was financed with customer funds?

Forest 08-19-2010 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wig (Post 17427571)
You really believe the movie was financed with customer funds?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup


hit me up man. cant find your icq

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-19-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wig (Post 17427571)
You really believe the movie was financed with customer funds?

Oh brother. :Oh crap

PornMD 08-19-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 17427480)
My worry is does this put Epass as a company in jeopardy? Many of us have significant money in their hands. Shall I submit for a wire?

Just saying im a bit concerned.

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epitome 08-19-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 17427249)
Does anyone know if it will get nationwide release tomorrow as originally planned?
WG

Everything points to no. It's what I've been planning to do on August 20th for quite awhile.

pornstar2fag 08-19-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17427399)
From the guy that has to keep changing handles. :1orglaugh

10 + people use this nick.

ShellyCrash 08-19-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17427316)
I give them props for trying too as far as the making of the movie, getting an enticing cast put together etc. It does LOOK interesting and I would like to see it. I don't give them props for advertising for it on the very sites that are crumbling this industry, and I'm surprised so many people around here seem either oblivious to that fact or oblivious to how wrong that is. They chose to advertise that movie on a bunch of sites that give all your shit away for free.

You know what though- that's what they get. I'm not going to shit on them for making the movie, but if that's where they chose to promote it then they are reaping what they sewed. The same people surfing those sites are the same people that share torrents. They aren't going to support a drama in the theatres. :2 cents:

datatank 08-19-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag (Post 17426836)
what? it bombed? you mean all that amazing golden traffic on the pornhub network did nothing for it? omg, who would have believed it? they have "more traffic than god" though, how can it be? i'm sure none of those porn thieves on those tubes did a search for "middle men movie + torrent". couldn't happen. i mean they are so upstanding and want to contribute so much. i can't believe it at all. i am shocked.

why the hate?

datatank 08-19-2010 02:44 PM

LOL I think I have heard it all now.

Do you think my $2k in EPASS is safe or did he use it to make this movie?

dyna mo 08-19-2010 02:51 PM

could someone explain to me please how making a flop movie is the current way to launder moneys?

JohnnyTheJerkoffGymsock 08-19-2010 02:53 PM

Too bad wanted to see that movie, I wonder if Luke Wilson was as bored doing it as he was doing ATT commercials.

docputer 08-19-2010 02:56 PM

Perhaps it will do well on video

dyna mo 08-19-2010 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyTheJerkoffGymsock (Post 17427776)
Too bad wanted to see that movie, I wonder if Luke Wilson was as bored doing it as he was doing ATT commercials.

perhaps some good will come out of this movie and no one will cast that deadpan deadbeat wannabe actor in anything, including commercials. biggest mistake the middlemen movie makers did was cast him and have him narrate.

Varius 08-19-2010 03:32 PM

They will make profit. You guys are forgetting selling the pay-cable rights to someone like SHO or HBO and the OnDemand orders. :2 cents:

candyflip 08-19-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17427773)
could someone explain to me please how making a flop movie is the current way to launder moneys?

http://files.list.co.uk/images/2008/08/21/producers.jpg

dyna mo 08-19-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17427860)

they say a picture is worth 1000 words but i have no idea what this pic means re: the question. :upsidedow

PornMD 08-19-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17427865)
they say a picture is worth 1000 words but i have no idea what this pic means re: the question. :upsidedow

From IMDB:

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New York, 1959. Max Bialystock was once the king of Broadway, but now all his shows close on opening night. Things turn around when he's visited by the neurotic accountant Leo Bloom, who proposes a scheme tailor-made for producers who can only make flops: raise far more money than you need, then make sure the show is despised. No one will be interested in it, so you can pocket the surplus. To this end, they produce a musical called Springtime for Hitler written by escaped Nazi Franz Liebken. Then they get the insanely flamboyant Roger De Bris to direct. Finally, they hire as a lead actress the loopy Swedish bombshell Ulla (whose last name has over 15 syllables). As opening night draws near, what can go wrong? Well, there's no accounting for taste...
I never saw the movie or the play it's based on but sorta knew what it was about. Not entirely sure how it'd translate to the question about money laundering since there was no "money raising" for this movie afaik.

GregE 08-19-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17427738)
You know what though- that's what they get. I'm not going to shit on them for making the movie, but if that's where they chose to promote it then they are reaping what they sewed.

Well, keep in mind we're getting this info secondhand, but if true, I would agree that that's some serious bad form.


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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17427738)
The same people surfing those sites are the same people that share torrents. They aren't going to support a drama in the theatres. :2 cents:

Trying to sell any sort of content, mainstream or not, on a tube is like trying to sell sand on the beach.

marketsmart 08-19-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 17427406)

i dont see the fail in this pic...

to me it looks like something magical will happen as soon as that motor gets started... :2 cents:



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Ethersync 08-19-2010 04:45 PM

The official numbers are in. It's going to be on 16 screens this weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/...0&wk=34&p=.htm

PornMD 08-19-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17427999)
The official numbers are in. It's going to be on 16 screens this weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/...0&wk=34&p=.htm

Ouch. I say it'll get back up to $400 per theater this weekend for a mystical magical $6,400 gross and that'll be all she wrote. On both Monday and Wednesday this week, it made a whopping $70 avg per theater. $70! With ticket prices being what they are that's what, 7-10 people per day avg per theater?

So if it doesn't go wide, it'll end up with just over $700,000 final gross.

Brujah 08-19-2010 05:05 PM

I think the topic is still interesting enough, and it could make a great HBO or SHO series with good writers. Did the writer just suck? Was the content too "porn" for mainstream to accept?

PornMD 08-19-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17428047)
I think the topic is still interesting enough, and it could make a great HBO or SHO series with good writers. Did the writer just suck? Was the content too "porn" for mainstream to accept?

All I know is that the Facebook movie likely won't flop this bad, and that'll be tragic. This actually did look interesting enough and I couldn't care less about the story behind Facebook n whatnot. I hope that one flops but it probably won't. :(

Perhaps it was too porn for mainstream.

lazycash 08-19-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag (Post 17427480)
My worry is does this put Epass as a company in jeopardy? Many of us have significant money in their hands. Shall I submit for a wire?

Just saying im a bit concerned.

Lol, the movie was loosely based around Epass owner, other than that there is no correlation.

dyna mo 08-19-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 17427888)
From IMDB:



I never saw the movie or the play it's based on but sorta knew what it was about. Not entirely sure how it'd translate to the question about money laundering since there was no "money raising" for this movie afaik.

ahh, i see. :thumbsup
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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17427985)
i dont see the fail in this pic...

to me it looks like something magical will happen as soon as that motor gets started... :2 cents:



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:1orglaugh

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-19-2010 05:50 PM

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Movie Execs Charged in Money-Laundering Case

Federal prosecutors say Limelight Films was a front in international drug smuggling.
July 20, 2006|Andrew Blankstein and Richard Winton, Times Staff Writers
Limelight Films seemed from the outside like so many upstart production companies in Hollywood: It had a Sunset Boulevard address, a connection to Tinseltown royalty and deals to distribute a small slate of low-budget films.

But federal authorities have alleged that the film corporation was a front for an international drug-smuggling and money-laundering operation stretching from Los Angeles to Switzerland.

stigation dubbed "Operation Director's Cut."

D'Esclavelles and De Basseville were arrested in Arlington, Va., and charged with conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy.

Authorities said they learned about Limelight from an informant and set up a sting operation in which agents with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration posed as Ecstasy buyers working for South American drug dealers.

The criminal complaint alleges that Limelight executives laundered $300,000 through the film company for the undercover agents. The arrests followed numerous meetings between the agents and Limelight executives, who allegedly promised to arrange the sale of half a million Ecstasy tablets, according to court documents.
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Investing in a film is considered a smart way to launder money. Accounting practices are weak, transparency low, and if you are a thug with a lot of cash ?to invest? you get to hang around movie stars by bankrolling a film.
ADG

NickB. 08-19-2010 06:02 PM

I havent been able to watch it yet, I hope everything works out well for Chris

PornNewz 08-19-2010 06:02 PM

a not too bad review from Hollywood Reporter

candyflip 08-19-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17427865)
they say a picture is worth 1000 words but i have no idea what this pic means re: the question. :upsidedow

They came up with a scheme that would allow them to profit from a flop. That was it...didn't really have anything to do with money laundering.

craftyc 08-19-2010 08:34 PM

I guess all that is left to be said is "Porn is Dead" or maybe "Adapt or Die" ;)

lagcam 08-19-2010 09:04 PM

A movie with this subject matter was never going to be a box office smash at the cinema. I am surprised at how many people are surprised by this.

As many have said before me, it was always going to make most of its money through other channels.

tony286 08-19-2010 09:17 PM

The people vs larry flynt and boogie nights two amazing films ,amazing performances and at the box office they were duds. People dont want to watch movies about porn.


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