US box office was nothing to write home about especially when you consider it was an amazing film with great performances. I forgot what article I read but it was considered a flop at the box office. Then you add dvd and int it didnt do bad.

With only $20mil invested, they will still turn a profit, just not a huge one.

I thought the trailer looked sweet.

I had no idea this thread would turn out this way. I thought a few predictable trolls would jump in but WOW.

Anyway, no solid plans for tonight ... had kept August 20th reserved for Middle Men.

Meh.....

Movies are either hits or flops, barely turning a profit = flop... most of the profit will go to investors and other "middle men" (no pun intended, heh)... producer invested ton of his own $$, spent years chasing around it, making deals etc, just to pretty much break even...

it's really a shame though, seemed like a decent flick, had potential to be a hit....

Yea, people seem to forget the value of the time spent too. Months/years of time invested by all involved for a little profit isn't success.

That said, I agree that it's a shame. It looks more interesting than most of the shit playing, so my fascination with this is more that it's doing as poorly as it is given what it is.

I saw the movie and it's was great, way better than movies that make tens of millions. As I see it the main reason for the dismal numbers is the lack of promotion. I don’t know if Luke Wilson is promoting it on the talk show circuit or if there were many press junkets, but it was way better than Stallons flick the expendables which that had tons of promotion and many huge names. I guess the big screen is a lot like the internet, you have the traffic you’ll make the conversions no matter what the content is.

yea no fucking promotion why?? I didnt see one newpaper ad and one 10 sec tv spot i almost missed.

they promoted the fuck out of it here in l.a.

Depends on the channels I guess. I've seen previews for it at least a dozen times or so on TV. Forget if it was on Spike or Fox or what.

Standard procedure is...If your movie cost 20 Million to make, you need to put half of it in Promotion. So I don't think 10 Million more went into P & A (Print and advertising)

That could have been the problem.

Especially in Chatsworth. :1orglaugh

I saw commercials all the time here and it's no where to be found in theaters.

go figure! lolz

off topic, i received your wife's book in the mail today, looking forward to reading it this weekend. :)

Damn that was Fast. :thumbsup
If you have any questions about the business whatsoever, I can give you her email address.
She used to own an Agency, Modeling and Commercial with over 300 People on her Roster.

Just not enough time in the day for her with everything she has going on.

Off Topic,
I may go for a ride tomorrow, maybe head towards the beach area for a drink with a buddy that lives out that way. Let me know.

Anyone know how Zack and Miri make a Porno did?

Moviefone shows it in 2 theaters in Plano Texas, about a 10 hour drive from where I live.

amazon prime ftw! i hope i have some questions eh, so that would be cool.

tomorrow sounds cool, holler at me with the details if you go.

we went to roscoe's bike nite last nite, it was outlaw m/c nite i guess, the mongols were there and when it came time for us to leave, one of em had his bike parked in front of mine and got pissed when i asked him nicely to move it. hah. he was drunk and almost dropped it on about 3 other bikes. close call!

That's a funny and scary story. :1orglaugh
Trying to find your email, can you send me an email with it. I'll send you details. Maybe I should hit up Baddog too, if he has any miles left on it.

yeah, it was pretty funny, he went off about how i need to choose a better spot to park my scoot next time if i plan on leaving early. fuck, the entire lot was jammed with bikes, i could of gotten there at 10pm and still not be able to get out without peeps moving shit around.

sending an email to you now.........

That's funny, next time take a cab. :1orglaugh

then i won't be able to show off the dynamo scootie! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I was planning on riding to San Francisco tonight, but a change of plans. I will be around if you guys want to go for a putt. My Night Train needs some love anyway.

right down the pisser

bartell's at 10:30ish am, see y'all there! :thumbsup

damn, you get up early . . . . I will try to have Buddy walked by then.

lolz, i was thinking that's kinda late, pch traffic starts piling up around then. :1orglaugh

time to split lanessssssss :thumbsup

I always split lanes, no matter the time. The Night Train is perfect for it. When I see you I will tell you about splitting lanes in Denver. What a bunch of pussies there.

hah, right on.

my brother-in-law was in town with the fam recently and wouldn't split lanes, i left him behind. :1orglaugh he was pissed. lolz

I actually had some guy [in Denver] on a Harley yell at me as I went by, asking WTF I thought I was doing.

I thought it was pretty obvious.

i always like doing that. just brap right by those guys sitting in traffic. :1orglaugh

Exactly! See you there.
Just fired up my dirty ride. I'll be riding dirty...literally.

Well, arrived at Bartels'. Daniel (service guy) said I missed you by two minutes.

Have to split lanes faster next time I guess...

http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbi...Lane-split.jpg

ADG

Nah, I rode hard and fast, just got a late start. If I had not taken the time to wipe the dust off my mirrors I would have made it.

That is a good read. Thanks for the link

The August 20th opening weekend has come and gone and I can't find this movie anywhere within 200 miles of me.

Anyone know when I can download it off Itunes?

so I guess no pepsi commercials on pornhub now?

Interesting article, but one of the big lies in the movie, and in the article, is the suggestion that Chris Mallick left porn years ago.

Chris Mallick never left porn. The last I heard, he is still the CEO of ePassporte, which is deeply involved in the porn biz.

Meanwhile, his movie, which I saw last week, that claims to be inspired by his true story, perpetuates extremely negative stereotypes about the industry.

Maybe Chris Mallick had or has mob connections, and he was an accessory to a murder, and shot an individual himself (all events depicted in the movie supposedly based upon his life), but I don't know, nor have I ever met, anyone in the industry that even remotely fits that description.

He also made it clear in his movie that the billing company he was a part of and it's founders (which in real life would be Paycom), were involved in child porn, since the movie states in captions at the close that the drug addict guys whom started the billing company both served 18 months in jail on five year prison terms related to their involvement in child porn, while Mallick supposedly walked away from all of his obvious involvement in the wrongdoing.

Chris Mallick basically tried to cash in by selling us out. Therefore, I'm glad that more people did not see his movie, and that Middle Men was a flop that bombed big time at the box office.

ADG

the mainstream stuff that will be sold on tubes - and is - will be late night informercial stuff.

it is a straw man to think that just because pepsi and toyota wont advertise on porn sites non-porn products wont be advertised on free porn sites.

ShamWow can pick up 50 times its weight in splooge!

That's fucking funny!

I haven't seen the movie, but will when it comes out on DVD. That said, it is no surprise to me that it was a bomb. The first time I saw the trailer I thought it looked like it might be a good movie, but that the only people who would probably be interested in it are porn webmasters.

Interesting quote:

"Mallick himself insists he was repelled by the [porn] business but nonetheless held hostage by it for several years."

That sucks, sorry man. We waiting for about 30 Minutes and thought you were a no show.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh that's fucking hilarious

I figured. I tried leaving a message for Scott but no luck. If I had a clue where you guys were headed I would have chased after you.

Oh well, next time.