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Even with the "more traffic than God", traffic from Mansef / Manwin tube sites (built upon stolen content), it bombed big time. Quote:
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Anyway you cut it, "Middle Men" was a dismal flop, and will most likely have to be sold as a loss leader... As the Distributor, Paramount will likely get a lion's share of the ancillary markets, as paltry as that may be, given the poor box office performance numbers. One more factor to consider is that even box office bonanza movies, only make back about what they make during their theatrical release through the various other markets (DVD, VOD, Cable, etc). At this point, "Middle Men" has grossed less than $700k (that's not counting the ad budget, or deducting Paramount's distributor share, or even the theater's share), so any chance of this movie breaking even at this point appears to be a total pipe dream. Not too worry though, because Middle Men is sure to make ~$20 more tonight, because I am heading out to see it shortly, since it will not be playing anywhere near me tomorrow, or much of anywhere for that matter. :1orglaugh I'll post my review tomorrow... :thumbsup ADG |
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Wow, the guys laughing at my concern truly are idiots. Probably the same guys sending sobv sales still thinking they'll get paid.
I don't live on gfy but it was my understanding epass owner funded the movie, if he goes broke what keeps him from cleaning out one of hisotherbusinesses holding millions and disapearing? It's not like their a real bank with insurance. Fucking morons wow. Then again, if I had five dollars in my account I probably wouldn't be worried either. |
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BTW, Owen Wilson wasn't even in the movie, genius (maybe it would have faired better at the box office if he was). :1orglaugh Anyway, I just got back home a little while ago from seeing "Middle Men". I'll post my review later today after I get some sleep... ADG |
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My understanding is Chris can easily handle the cost of the movie. Of course you never know what the true situation is. but from everything I've heard it won't put him out of business. |
I saw the trailer several times on TV, and to be completely honest... not only did the movie look dull and cliché, I had no idea what the movie was even supposed to be about. Some good named actors, yes, including one of my favorites: Ribisi. But aside from that... I saw guys wearing suits, walking off an airplane, and throwing money into the air. What about that makes me want to shell out $10, in the summer, to go watch this? Nothing really.
From reading little notes here on the board about the movie... I still don't even know what it's supposed to be about. Porn? Scamming porn? Getting rich on the Internet? This isn't hating. Just honest comments. I wish it would have went better for them, pretty cool for giving it a shot though, I'll give them that. |
i dont know, for sure
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"People vs Larry Flynt grossed over $20 million domestically, and Boogie Nights grossed over $26 million at the box office domestically (and over $43 million internationally)."
When considering what it cost to make them they were flops not train wrecks but flops. |
i was going to give him kudos for getting the movie made and a distribution deal, the odds against getting a theatrical movie made and produced are astronomical. studios and production companies have hundreds of scripts in development, only a tiny fraction ever make it to production. of those that do get made, the large majority are failures - movie business is all about the blockbuster these days though hitting some solid doubles is profitable.
if he footed the bill for the entire film, what a waste and a total conceit. that money could have gone to so many better things, give it to a hospital, get a clinic or floor name after you or somebody you love(d), fund a summer camp for sick kids ... Thoroughbred horse industry and the movie industry survive on people with too much money and too much vanity. |
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That project isn't aiming for huge box office success,either; it's not that kind of film. It's aiming for awards and will make money through other channels. For the comment above regarding SHO/HBO only paying a lot for box office hits, that's false. They pay when they feel a film fits their audience/genre and especially when they get exclusivity to it. They are premium paid channels, not network TV; so they can afford to do this as long as they have faith the film is something their subscribers will want to see. |
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With only $20mil invested, they will still turn a profit, just not a huge one.
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I thought the trailer looked sweet.
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I had no idea this thread would turn out this way. I thought a few predictable trolls would jump in but WOW.
Anyway, no solid plans for tonight ... had kept August 20th reserved for Middle Men. |
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Movies are either hits or flops, barely turning a profit = flop... most of the profit will go to investors and other "middle men" (no pun intended, heh)... producer invested ton of his own $$, spent years chasing around it, making deals etc, just to pretty much break even...
it's really a shame though, seemed like a decent flick, had potential to be a hit.... |
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That said, I agree that it's a shame. It looks more interesting than most of the shit playing, so my fascination with this is more that it's doing as poorly as it is given what it is. |
I saw the movie and it's was great, way better than movies that make tens of millions. As I see it the main reason for the dismal numbers is the lack of promotion. I don’t know if Luke Wilson is promoting it on the talk show circuit or if there were many press junkets, but it was way better than Stallons flick the expendables which that had tons of promotion and many huge names. I guess the big screen is a lot like the internet, you have the traffic you’ll make the conversions no matter what the content is.
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yea no fucking promotion why?? I didnt see one newpaper ad and one 10 sec tv spot i almost missed.
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they promoted the fuck out of it here in l.a.
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Standard procedure is...If your movie cost 20 Million to make, you need to put half of it in Promotion. So I don't think 10 Million more went into P & A (Print and advertising)
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off topic, i received your wife's book in the mail today, looking forward to reading it this weekend. :) |
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If you have any questions about the business whatsoever, I can give you her email address. She used to own an Agency, Modeling and Commercial with over 300 People on her Roster. Just not enough time in the day for her with everything she has going on. Off Topic, I may go for a ride tomorrow, maybe head towards the beach area for a drink with a buddy that lives out that way. Let me know. |
Anyone know how Zack and Miri make a Porno did?
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Moviefone shows it in 2 theaters in Plano Texas, about a 10 hour drive from where I live.
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tomorrow sounds cool, holler at me with the details if you go. we went to roscoe's bike nite last nite, it was outlaw m/c nite i guess, the mongols were there and when it came time for us to leave, one of em had his bike parked in front of mine and got pissed when i asked him nicely to move it. hah. he was drunk and almost dropped it on about 3 other bikes. close call! |
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Trying to find your email, can you send me an email with it. I'll send you details. Maybe I should hit up Baddog too, if he has any miles left on it. |
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