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Brujah 08-19-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17427904)
I hate Obama because he's black

Well, now we know.

See how context works, ITYG?

The Demon 08-19-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17427826)
well there is economic, enviromental, and political struggles going on right now that i feel we should be spending our time and energy on

You act as if the state of the country/world and this 9/11 issue are mutually exclusive.

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is it proper to build a mosque at ground zero? since they are building more of a community center in what could be described as the center of the known universe, well, yes.
I disagree. Out of all the places where they can build a mosque, they choose that place? I realize that radical Islam is making the entire religion look bad, but it's still guilt by association in this day and age.

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and in conclusion, respect. in order for their action to be disrespectful, they would have to be in some way responsible for the attacks on the 9/11, and that is not correct. In fact, hundreds of muslims, americans, died in this attack.

if respect is in question, who is disrespecting who?
I think it sends a bad message because of the significance. If a church or a synagogue was build there, obviously nobody would complain. The fact that a symbol (albeit skewed) is being placed in the vicinity of the worst terrorist attack in America, is a horrible thing.

Brujah 08-19-2010 04:31 PM

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg has strongly endorsed the project, arguing that it is not the role of government to meddle in religious and business affairs.

In May, the Lower Manhattan community board also voted to support the center.

First you guys are 100% constitution, then you're anti-constitution and want to go with the voters. Now you're anti-constitution AND anti-voters. Sounds very anti-American to me.

Vendzilla 08-19-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17427591)
O'Reilly is an entertainer,

But, it was said on a 24 hour news network, on a show that is very popular, and they would have no reason to simply make something up. Right?

Gotta love the people that bash Fox on this forum, Fox is the most watched news program on cable and O'Reilly is leading all of them by a large margin. Yes, he's an entertainer, but I feel a fair one, kinda middle of the road leaning slightly right, which is about where the country is. I think I'm a little more to the right than he is, just started reading one of his books, just makes me like him even more. Something he said about friends really struck at home.
Beck I can only handle for a little bit, too religious for me
I watch MSNBC for 15 minutes and I have to change the channel.
CNN is ok, ABC is ok

jjmerago 08-19-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17427807)
Not exactly, especially when uses words like "bigot" without understanding its' definition. I'm not sure how you can call something like this a non issue. I think it's a huge issue. You can build a mosque anywhere, but they chose to do it within the vicinity of the WTC, and it's a NON issue? Not sure how someone can be that naive.

1) Do you know the meaning of Bigot? Apparently not you should have checked the dictionary. I am smart I am a geek and a nerd a proud of it. Yes my spelling sux and sum tymes sough duz migh gramher. BUT I do know the meaning of Bigot.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
big·ot   [big-uht] Show IPA
–noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

See where it says Belief. Thats you! If you believe for 1 sec that Islam was the reason for 9/11 and not al quaeda then you are a Bigot.
I also love that you conveniently skipped over the fact that christians are and have been worse in the terror department then Islam has ever been. Ground zero isn't a tomb as construction has dug so deep they are finding ships from revolutionary days, meaning all the bodies are gone as well as all parts of the building. Its an empty space very something very very EVIL happened a decade ago not a tomb of remains.
You either accept all religions and all beliefs or be prepared for any and all consequences associated with singling out and taunting a religion with more people and more and more fanatics being driven towards terrorism because of your backwards thinking.

So again lets be clear ... if your for the community center ... you have good core belief in the constitution and religious freedom.
If your against your a Bigot, because your only reason for saying "no" is based on your hate and intolerance but no rational reasoning.

Vendzilla 08-19-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17427946)
Well, now we know.

See how context works, ITYG?

Just proves the facts don't mean a fucking thing to you

Brujah 08-19-2010 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17427988)
Just proves the facts don't mean a fucking thing to you

That was for ITYG (another member), to illustrate a point about the importance of context. He'll get it when he reads it.

boneprone 08-19-2010 04:52 PM

If it aint white it aint right..
Id be ok with it if they were white Muslims.

uno 08-19-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17427120)
half a dozen blocks?
does this look like half a dozen blocks?
or are you saying this is NOT a spin?
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/201...hewalkvert.jpg

university of phoenix has actual campuses?

fatfoo 08-19-2010 06:22 PM

I think different religions can coexist peacefully.

cwd 08-20-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17427969)
Gotta love the people that bash Fox on this forum, Fox is the most watched news program on cable and O'Reilly is leading all of them by a large margin. Yes, he's an entertainer, but I feel a fair one, kinda middle of the road leaning slightly right, which is about where the country is. I think I'm a little more to the right than he is, just started reading one of his books, just makes me like him even more. Something he said about friends really struck at home.
Beck I can only handle for a little bit, too religious for me
I watch MSNBC for 15 minutes and I have to change the channel.
CNN is ok, ABC is ok

Wow, not sure where I was bashing Fox news. In fact, that was the first time I have written Fox in this thread.

You said that no mulisms lived within 1 mile of the site, because you heard it on a news show, looked at a photo and figured they were correct. My concern was that when a news show makes a statement like that people take it for the truth, without actually trying to find out for themselves. Specially since as you said, O'Reilly is "leading all of them".

and as DynaMo said
"there are 100s and 100s of apartments within a 1mile radius of ground zero.
my ex-girlfriend lived in one, ~1200 feet away(circled in the photo) she had to clear out for several weeks after the tragedy, as did many many many others. it's manhatten, they have to put apartments everywhere. her bldg was ~20 stories of apartments if i recall correctly."

It seems to me that un-true statements like "no muslims live within 1 mile" only add to the hysteria. When we can no longer have meaningful conversations in this society without it becoming a fear mongering, pointing of fingers, name calling mess. I wish this was not so, but it seems to be where we are.

Vendzilla 08-20-2010 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17427994)
That was for ITYG (another member), to illustrate a point about the importance of context. He'll get it when he reads it.

You're indicating I'm a racist, you're illustrating you're an asshole to everyone thats reading it

Vendzilla 08-20-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17429188)
Wow, not sure where I was bashing Fox news. In fact, that was the first time I have written Fox in this thread.

You said that no mulisms lived within 1 mile of the site, because you heard it on a news show, looked at a photo and figured they were correct. My concern was that when a news show makes a statement like that people take it for the truth, without actually trying to find out for themselves. Specially since as you said, O'Reilly is "leading all of them".

and as DynaMo said
"there are 100s and 100s of apartments within a 1mile radius of ground zero.
my ex-girlfriend lived in one, ~1200 feet away(circled in the photo) she had to clear out for several weeks after the tragedy, as did many many many others. it's manhatten, they have to put apartments everywhere. her bldg was ~20 stories of apartments if i recall correctly."

It seems to me that un-true statements like "no muslims live within 1 mile" only add to the hysteria. When we can no longer have meaningful conversations in this society without it becoming a fear mongering, pointing of fingers, name calling mess. I wish this was not so, but it seems to be where we are.

the statement was about all the people that bash them

cwd 08-20-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17429210)
the statement was about all the people that bash them

oh, I see. Mine was just about all the people that believe everything they hear on TV.

TurboAngel 08-20-2010 08:46 AM

I think everyone needs to have a drink in here.

tony286 08-20-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17429200)
You're indicating I'm a racist, you're illustrating you're an asshole to everyone thats reading it

you dont have to be a racist to be not happy about having a black man as president. I think alot of people dont like having a black guy as president so they say he is a socialist, he really isnt an American etc etc. Its all code for he is black and I dont like it.

Vendzilla 08-20-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cwd (Post 17429362)
oh, I see. Mine was just about all the people that believe everything they hear on TV.

I learned something in boot camp in the Navy
Believe half of what you see, none of what you hear, vote no, demand a recount, tip your bartender and never date more than you can lift

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17429376)
you dont have to be a racist to be not happy about having a black man as president. I think alot of people dont like having a black guy as president so they say he is a socialist, he really isnt an American etc etc. Its all code for he is black and I dont like it.

1, I don't give a shit what color he is, I wasn't raised that way
And at this point I really don't give a fuck if a lot of people don't like him because he's black, a lot of people like him just because he's black
2, Shit for Brains was calling me a racist, fuck him

Brujah 08-20-2010 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17429388)
calling me a racist

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. I said based on your anti-Obama posts that are unrelated to his actual works, I'm convinced you hate him for other reasons. One was that he is a Democrat. Another was that he is black. I didn't choose for you, but your reactions seem to indicate it's probably because he is black.

Posts about Obama and the mosque. Posts about his birth certificate. Posts about him being muslim. You fall into that stereotype because you perpetuate it. Break out of it and no one will think you're just some ignorant redneck pothead racist who secretly hates black people and mexicans and doesn't want "the gays" getting married either. :1orglaugh

http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1250531614.jpg

TurboAngel 08-20-2010 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tony299 (Post 17429376)
you dont have to be a racist to be not happy about having a black man as president. I think alot of people dont like having a black guy as president so they say he is a socialist, he really isnt an American etc etc. Its all code for he is black and I dont like it.

So anyone who isn't happy with him being president has to be a racist? I think he's doing a shitty job not because he's black , and I voted for him.

directfiesta 08-20-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17427110)
I think you missed the point entirely. And I'm known for truth and facts, ?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Anyone knows how to clean coffee from a LCD screen ?

directfiesta 08-20-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17427598)
big surprise.. vendzilla in here parroting everything foxnews tells him to. LOL

Somebody has to to the thinking for him, no ?

Vendzilla 08-20-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17429425)
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

My comprehension is you called me a racist

You're a fucking moron, that's all you got

tony286 08-20-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel (Post 17429445)
So anyone who isn't happy with him being president has to be a racist? I think he's doing a shitty job not because he's black , and I voted for him.

No because they arent arguing facts they are arguing dont like a black president but cant say that talking points. Im not happy with him either but when they start calling him a socialist or the biggest liberal it all bullshit. I am a liberal and he is not one. In fact us progressives feel fucked by him. But on the other hand if you think any person could of fixed this mess left in 2 yrs your kidding yourself. The right has to create these bullshit outrage with a mosque because they want to get elected and they dont have a plan but go back to way it was which drove us in to the ditch.

They have to stop anything barry does because even though they all try to rewrite FDR. FDR was elected 4 terms and democrats controlled the house for 40 yrs. they wont let that happen again, so they say no to everything and then some.

Brujah 08-20-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17429501)
My comprehension is you called me a racist

You're a fucking moron, that's all you got

If it walks like a redneck racist pothead duck.... well, you know the rest...

Vendzilla 08-20-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 17429535)
If it walks like a redneck racist pothead duck.... well, you know the rest...

So instead of debating the facts, you call me names?
Fucking MORON

charlie g 08-20-2010 10:17 AM

This is such a bullshit issue. The government does not have the right to tell these people they can't build there. But these fucking towel heads should show some sensitivity to the neighborhood and move their fucking auditorium or bombmaking university a mile or 2 away. The plain fact that they do not recognize that many see this as poor judgment and taste only confirms they do not belong in the neighborhood.

Many innocent people were killed there in the name of that shit religion... so ya, they should shut the fuck up and move on. Anyone arguing differently is wrong!

Brujah 08-20-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17429576)
So instead of debating the facts, you call me names?
Fucking MORON

Yes, I'm sorry but I'm usually just teasing you because you're just one of those awesome people who respond this way and make it fun. :1orglaugh I apologize. If you go back and read some of the posts I've made that you felt were serious, you might see them in more of a jovial manner. :winkwink:

Bryan G 08-20-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17429576)
So instead of debating the facts, you call me names?
Fucking MORON

LMAO, you're one to talk about calling names.

Tom_PM 08-20-2010 11:27 AM

There's a christian church in florida trying to organize a koran burning on the church lawn.

What the hell are these crazies doing? Believing as true a transparent political attempt to control the message during an election year? Wow. Just wow.

directfiesta 08-20-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17429798)
There's a christian church in florida trying to organize a koran burning on the church lawn.

What the hell are these crazies doing? Believing as true a transparent political attempt to control the message during an election year? Wow. Just wow.

.. bad .. and we know where that leads ..

Nazis burned Thorahs ....

HighEnergy 08-20-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie g (Post 17429609)
this is such a bullshit issue. The government does not have the right to tell these people they can't build there. But these fucking towel heads should show some sensitivity to the neighborhood and move their fucking auditorium or bombmaking university a mile or 2 away. The plain fact that they do not recognize that many see this as poor judgment and taste only confirms they do not belong in the neighborhood.

Many innocent people were killed there in the name of that shit religion... So ya, they should shut the fuck up and move on. Anyone arguing differently is wrong!

QFT




Brujah is just stirring shit as always. It's a form of entertainment for him.


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