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Semi-Retired-Dave 08-28-2010 01:43 PM

This saying is so funny.

"If it floats, flies or fucks, it's cheaper to rent it."

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-28-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atticus (Post 17448812)
Just guessing but it seems like he got married because its something his advisors suggested. A married (to a swedish bikini model) father of 2 on the pro tour makes more endorsement dollars than a single guy banging multiple whores. He just couldnt keep it in his pants and make the charade work.

That is so true. Makes him more Legit being married so kids can look up to him.
Man, did he prove those kids wrong. :Oh crap

xxweekxx 08-28-2010 01:45 PM

marriage sucks.. i know one happily married couple, and around 6 miserable ones.. those are bad fucking odds
you dont have to get a contract to live with someone..

if i find a girl i love, good shit, we move in together, have kids, etc, but why do i have to get married? not like marriage will fix anything or make me love her more.. it just makes it tougher to leave and somehow people stop giving a shit once they get married

Argos88 08-28-2010 03:30 PM

If you don't marry and don't get kids, when you become OLD, you will feel very solitaire and when you become 70 or 80, and you are alone (because all your friends were friends to use you and your money) then you will maybe want to die, because nobody cares about you, you have no children, no wife, nothing.... so sad... nobody will remember your existence when you die because you left nothing... nobody...

Even if you are a 50 year old RETRO Hippie who didn't grow up and you still feel young, because you are drive your bike... soon or late you will be hit by depression for feeling alone... Even if you decide to travel to Thailand when you become 60, following the american dream adopted during Vietnam War of old suckers gettign young asian women... even if that... you will be a solitaire dog... remember.

Man, it must be so sad to become old and not get kids and be lonely..

Now maybe when you are 20's or 30's you dont care and remember, one day you will be alone, old and sad and you will remember this...

All said.

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JustDaveXxx 08-28-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17448720)
I've been with my girl for 8 years and we aren't married (probably longer than you even). If you feel you won't lose anything in a divorce just because you aren't married, you'd be wrong.

Is this your law degree talking? Or is this something you think you herd in Divorce Court TV or The Peoples Court? My law degree says you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I finished law school have you? My little brother is a trial attorney, my father is an attorney who specializes in contracts and a lot of my close friends (who i went to law school with) are attorneys with LLM's in tax and real property.


And your education is???????? A friend of a friend? A friend of a friend who knows an attorney? Google?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17448720)
Your sentence where you say, everything is in your name, she won't fuck with you as much is what I was referring to. I guess if she worked and you guys split things equally you would feel vunerable?


With your above statement, you are making an assumption that we come into this relationship with an equal amount of assets. Im not gonna sit here and list what i have and how many businesses i currently own, that are not adult related. But i will definitely tell you that it is enough that no matter who you start to date, you will always wonder if she really likes you for you, or for what you got.


3,500 square foot House with pool and gates in LA county, 2 3K square foot fully loaded studios rental studios loaded with gear, a mainstream laser lighting company with a steady 10 year cliental, etc.

If you dont try and protect what you bring into the relationship, you are a complete fool!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17448720)
She may be attractive but she has no job and you own everything, well should you two ever split up and she wants to be a prick, you'd have to shell out alimony.

I see that you haven't been paying attention to what ever TV show you get your law from.

She will not get "alimony". Not possible. She may get "Palimony" which i would not mind paying her. And i would pay what ever amount and then some for child support. Paying all of that would never be an issue.

Breaking up all of my assets to give her half of what i worked for my whole life is where i seriously draw the line. This is why i do not believe in marriage.


I do understand the rules and laws governing marriage and "Community Property" and where they are applicable. Do you Mr. Black Crayon???



I do love my girlfriend and i do not see it ending or ending badly. But at the same time my logical side forced me to have a plan in place where if things do end badly, I have an "out" that doesn't set me back with less than than i came into the relationship with.(most people do not have that kind of foresight and end up loosing their asses in divorce) SO SADD!!



On a final note; If we both people come into the relation ship with the same things or nothing and they amass a moderate fortune, i would think that my girlfriend or spouse would be entitled to half. But that is clearly not my situation and those facts are not applicable to me and my situation.:2 cents:

xmas13 08-28-2010 04:24 PM


Amputate Your Head 08-28-2010 04:26 PM

LOL, some of you guys act like marriage is a fuckin' death sentence. :1orglaugh

jeez, if she annoys you that much, you can get out of it.

GregE 08-28-2010 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17447321)
90% of people have similar experiences, the other 10% lie... :2 cents:

I think you're being a little cynical there.

Some people have happy marriages.

Perhaps even as many as 3% do.

oil 08-28-2010 05:42 PM

my experience, YES

scubadiver626 08-28-2010 05:44 PM

Marriage brings a sense of worth and stability to your life. If you can be happy, it's a very positive thing.

Having dated plenty and knowing her 6 years before we tied the knott really helped.

Plus she's still in her 20's and 11 years younger than me ;) She'll be hot most of our lives. Bought her breast implants, they never get old.

Before you do it, make sure these words describe your potential candidate: Patient, caring, understanding and NON confrontational. You've got it made.

Lastly, having lots of money helps tons! It really does.

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-28-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17449047)
LOL, some of you guys act like marriage is a fuckin' death sentence. :1orglaugh

jeez, if she annoys you that much, you can get out of it.

They make it sound like once you say I do, you are done. Trapped. Can't get out of Prison.
It's a fucking Piece of Paper, you can get out of it as easy as you got into it.

Just marry someone with more money than you so you can take half. :thumbsup

cosis 08-28-2010 09:48 PM

Asking adult webmasters about marriage? :1orglaugh

Sabby 08-28-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17448780)
I'd also like to add...

If you do get married, make sure your real assets are offshore and set up with a nominee director. Don't ever, ever tell her about it. She can only take what they can find. If you set it up right, you'll only lose what you allow her to have.

But its best if you never forget: If it floats, flies or fucks, it's cheaper to rent it.

Actually its really cheap to buy a used boat and rent it out or do charter tours.. Ive looked into it.


Sabby:)

xxweekxx 08-28-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17449417)
Actually its really cheap to buy a used boat and rent it out or do charter tours.. Ive looked into it.


Sabby:)

not really.. my friend here has a boat.. costs him a shit load in insurance, docking, maintenance, etc, and he only uses it maybe a few times a month..

i can rent the same boat for $80/hr.. much better to just go rent it for 1-2hrs every few weeks when you need it.. .same for airplanes.. even when you are not flying, you are paying for maintenance/hanger fees

hence why if it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it

Sabby 08-28-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17449430)
not really.. my friend here has a boat.. costs him a shit load in insurance, docking, maintenance, etc, and he only uses it maybe a few times a month..

i can rent the same boat for $80/hr.. much better to just go rent it for 1-2hrs every few weeks when you need it.. .same for airplanes.. even when you are not flying, you are paying for maintenance/hanger fees

hence why if it flies, floats, or fucks, rent it

Great deal and alot of fun... specially if i throw in a bikini babe to drive u around?


Sabby:)

Argos88 08-28-2010 10:29 PM

funny to see that nobody can discuss my point above...

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GregE 08-28-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17448968)
If you don't marry and don't get kids, when you become OLD, you will feel very solitaire and when you become 70 or 80, and you are alone (because all your friends were friends to use you and your money) then you will maybe want to die, because nobody cares about you, you have no children, no wife, nothing.... so sad... nobody will remember your existence when you die because you left nothing... nobody...

Even if you are a 50 year old RETRO Hippie who didn't grow up and you still feel young, because you are drive your bike... soon or late you will be hit by depression for feeling alone... Even if you decide to travel to Thailand when you become 60, following the american dream adopted during Vietnam War of old suckers gettign young asian women... even if that... you will be a solitaire dog... remember.

And if your divorce is a real horror show (as they oftentimes are) all of the above will apply regardless.

Except... you'll die a lot poorer.

Lots of folks just aren't cut out for marriage. THINK it through, with your big head, before you jump.

Argos88 08-28-2010 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregE (Post 17449507)
And if your divorce is a real horror show (as they oftentimes are) all of the above will apply regardless.

Except... you'll die a lot poorer.

Lots of folks just aren't cut out for marriage. THINK it through, with your big head, before you jump.

If you can manage to stay mentally sane when you are 70 years old with no children and living alone... nobody does.

it must be depressing as hell to live for nothing and die alone... So SAD and so depressing... Imagine being alone in the desert, nobody gives a fuck about you and you are 80 years old, living the rest of your days, lonely... So Sad, dude... seriously.

The way of life you guys show, is great and possible when you are 20 or 30.. yeah.. you can manage to be alone and fuck girls and never marry... but you will become old eventually and you will regret what you did...

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Sabby 08-28-2010 11:58 PM

I have been fortunate to give birth to 3 brilliant children,,, all air signs,,,

I was blessed with one of each... Gemini, Aquarius, Libra.. they dont fight.. best of friends.. all a yr and a half apart from eachother..

air signs can be emotionally detached.. (though they will pay to put me in a home so they dont have to deal with me).


Sabby:)

TrixieRacer 08-29-2010 12:10 AM

Statistics show that 90% of people are not as happy as they were when they first married just 4 years after taking their vows. Scary.

If you're going to have kids, it totally makes sense to get married. Kids should have a stable home. Otherwise, I'm not sure what advantages there are except aquiring residency in a country.

On a side note, in the United States if you and your spouse both make good money and file your taxes separately, you'll pay even more in taxes than if you were each single.

Sabby 08-29-2010 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrixieRacer (Post 17449537)
Statistics show that 90% of people are not as happy as they were when they first married just 4 years after taking their vows. Scary.

If you're going to have kids, it totally makes sense to get married. Kids should have a stable home. Otherwise, I'm not sure what advantages there are except aquiring residency in a country.

On a side note, in the United States if you and your spouse both make good money and file your taxes separately, you'll pay even more in taxes than if you were each single.

or go common law...


Sabby:)

GregE 08-29-2010 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17449521)
If you can manage to stay mentally sane when you are 70 years old with no children and living alone... nobody does.

it must be depressing as hell to live for nothing and die alone... So SAD and so depressing... Imagine being alone in the desert, nobody gives a fuck about you and you are 80 years old, living the rest of your days, lonely... So Sad, dude... seriously.

The way of life you guys show, is great and possible when you are 20 or 30.. yeah.. you can manage to be alone and fuck girls and never marry... but you will become old eventually and you will regret what you did...

.

You're missing my point man.

There ain't no guarantees for anything in this life, a happy marriage especially.

As Eric said, unless you're sure that you can give it 100%, in all likelihood it ain't gonna play out all that well.

And then... when you're 80 some years old you're gonna kick the bucket in any case.

Speaking for myself, I have an excellent relationship with my kids, but when that time comes, I'd much prefer to spare them the sight.

If you've ever watched someone die, you'll understand what I'm saying.

gmr324 08-29-2010 06:39 AM

Quote:

If you've ever watched someone die, you'll understand what I'm saying.
Been there, you can only hope the person you're trying to be supportive and there for realizes you're even in the room. I definitely would have regretted not being there for them though.

BlackCrayon 08-29-2010 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 17448992)
Is this your law degree talking? Or is this something you think you herd in Divorce Court TV or The Peoples Court? My law degree says you really don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I finished law school have you? My little brother is a trial attorney, my father is an attorney who specializes in contracts and a lot of my close friends (who i went to law school with) are attorneys with LLM's in tax and real property.


And your education is???????? A friend of a friend? A friend of a friend who knows an attorney? Google?




With your above statement, you are making an assumption that we come into this relationship with an equal amount of assets. Im not gonna sit here and list what i have and how many businesses i currently own, that are not adult related. But i will definitely tell you that it is enough that no matter who you start to date, you will always wonder if she really likes you for you, or for what you got.


3,500 square foot House with pool and gates in LA county, 2 3K square foot fully loaded studios rental studios loaded with gear, a mainstream laser lighting company with a steady 10 year cliental, etc.

If you dont try and protect what you bring into the relationship, you are a complete fool!!




I see that you haven't been paying attention to what ever TV show you get your law from.

She will not get "alimony". Not possible. She may get "Palimony" which i would not mind paying her. And i would pay what ever amount and then some for child support. Paying all of that would never be an issue.

Breaking up all of my assets to give her half of what i worked for my whole life is where i seriously draw the line. This is why i do not believe in marriage.


I do understand the rules and laws governing marriage and "Community Property" and where they are applicable. Do you Mr. Black Crayon???



I do love my girlfriend and i do not see it ending or ending badly. But at the same time my logical side forced me to have a plan in place where if things do end badly, I have an "out" that doesn't set me back with less than than i came into the relationship with.(most people do not have that kind of foresight and end up loosing their asses in divorce) SO SADD!!



On a final note; If we both people come into the relation ship with the same things or nothing and they amass a moderate fortune, i would think that my girlfriend or spouse would be entitled to half. But that is clearly not my situation and those facts are not applicable to me and my situation.:2 cents:

sorry for saying anything, you know all, you are totally protected, nothing could ever go wrong. you are very smart and know many smart people. i know nothing and am very dumb. feel better now?

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrixieRacer (Post 17449537)
Statistics show that 90% of people are not as happy as they were when they first married just 4 years after taking their vows. Scary.

If you're going to have kids, it totally makes sense to get married. Kids should have a stable home. Otherwise, I'm not sure what advantages there are except aquiring residency in a country.

On a side note, in the United States if you and your spouse both make good money and file your taxes separately, you'll pay even more in taxes than if you were each single.

There are other benefits to marriage, i.e. getting on your spouse's health insurance, because if two people are straight and living together, they get fuck all.... if you're gay and living with someone it's cool. There are other benefits as well. It depends on what you want and what you don't want, and then you have to weigh the options. There's no one right answer for everyone.

On the taxes, file jointly to save money.

Argos88 08-29-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17449529)
I have been fortunate to give birth to 3 brilliant children,,, all air signs,,,

I was blessed with one of each... Gemini, Aquarius, Libra.. they dont fight.. best of friends.. all a yr and a half apart from eachother..

air signs can be emotionally detached.. (though they will pay to put me in a home so they dont have to deal with me).


Sabby:)

And where is the guy that gave you the sperm to have those kids?

Or you used Artificial insemination?

.

TrixieRacer 08-29-2010 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17449982)
There are other benefits to marriage, i.e. getting on your spouse's health insurance, because if two people are straight and living together, they get fuck all.... if you're gay and living with someone it's cool. There are other benefits as well. It depends on what you want and what you don't want, and then you have to weigh the options. There's no one right answer for everyone.

On the taxes, file jointly to save money.

Without children, do these benefits outweight the risk of possibly losing half?

2intense 08-29-2010 08:40 AM

not bad at all :winkwink::winkwink:

damnage 08-29-2010 08:45 AM

If you are cynical enough to be putting assets in offshore accounts, creating prenups or even just laying down your position then to be quite honest you are EXPECTING the relationship to fail.

Trust goes along way to making a relationship work.

Amputate Your Head 08-29-2010 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrixieRacer (Post 17450045)
Without children, do these benefits outweight the risk of possibly losing half?

like I said, there is no one single right answer for everyone. The bennie's might make sense to one couple but not to another. And of course, I'm only speaking from my own personal experience. The combinations of complexity that are possible are many. But I will tell you this...

My 1st marriage: I was 22, active military living in Germany, fell over backwards for a hot blonde (also military), and got married straight away because it was romantic. Met in Germany, married in Denmark, honeymoon in Spain.... we were young, full of fuck, and having a blast. It lasted a year. (mostly because we were military and usually not together very long in one place.) No kids. (but I have a prior son from high school days)

My 2nd marriage: Occurred the day after my first divorce was final. I was literally pressured into it by the chick, and like an idiot, went through with it. It lasted 4 miserable fucking years. (3.5 years too long) 2 kids resulted.

My 3rd marriage: After my second divorce, I waited 3 years before even attempting to meet anyone. After meeting her, we lived together for 10 years, had one child that died, and just got married last january. Still going strong. We ultimately married for the benefits that we couldn't legally have living together single. Period. Otherwise we'd have gone the rest of our lives together, happily unmarried.


It's just a piece of paper folks. If the relationship isn't there, no piece of paper is going to help you. Marriage itself isn't fucked up.... people are fucked up. I've taken the risk and lost half my shit twice. It's really not a big deal... it's just, stuff. Stuff that can always be replaced with more stuff.

femdomdestiny 08-29-2010 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17449521)
If you can manage to stay mentally sane when you are 70 years old with no children and living alone... nobody does.

it must be depressing as hell to live for nothing and die alone... So SAD and so depressing... Imagine being alone in the desert, nobody gives a fuck about you and you are 80 years old, living the rest of your days, lonely... So Sad, dude... seriously.

The way of life you guys show, is great and possible when you are 20 or 30.. yeah.. you can manage to be alone and fuck girls and never marry... but you will become old eventually and you will regret what you did...

.

How do you know that you will live 80 years*?Maybe I will day soon or at 50 or 60. What then?I've ruined my life because of fear.

fuzebox 08-29-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450065)
It's just a piece of paper folks. If the relationship isn't there, no piece of paper is going to help you. Marriage itself isn't fucked up.... people are fucked up. I've taken the risk and lost half my shit twice. It's really not a big deal... it's just, stuff. Stuff that can always be replaced with more stuff.

Exactly what I wanted to say :thumbsup

Semi-Retired-Dave 08-29-2010 12:46 PM

What the guy above this post said.
Exactly.

O MARINA 08-29-2010 07:30 PM

Good thread, Eric you should post more often :)

xmas13 09-06-2010 03:03 PM

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Dating Port 09-06-2010 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord (Post 17448175)
one simple word: YES

My Ashley Madison and Pimp Mansion payments are in total agreement!!! :2 cents:

fatfoo 09-06-2010 04:11 PM

I have no experience with marriage myself, but I can imagine there can be some negatives about marriage.

Herb Kornfield 09-06-2010 06:08 PM

Screw marriage ...be a player.

OneHungLo 09-06-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 17473869)

Whoa, glad i made the right decision :winkwink:

I wonder how many married men here are in the same boat but wont post cause their wives may read it :1orglaugh

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 09-06-2010 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17447309)
I have been married 18 yrs to a very lucky man.

And I finally trained him not to piss on my carpet.


Sabby:)

Are you sure "lucky" is the right word?

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 09-06-2010 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17449529)
I have been fortunate to give birth to 3 brilliant children,,, all air signs,,,

Of all the dead giveaways a chick is batshit fucking crazy, actually believing astrology...

xmas13 09-06-2010 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17474392)
Of all the dead giveaways a chick is batshit fucking crazy, actually believing astrology...

http://tinyurl.com/23yu46x

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

blonda80 09-06-2010 10:35 PM

If I would got married with my boyfriend, I would file divorcee since 10 years ago, probably daily! The word marriage scares me, thinking of the broken relationships near me. The idea of being tied up of somebody makes me insane! I want to be free, loved and to have a nice, healthy relationship, not to think everyday that I got tied up!

itx 09-06-2010 10:50 PM

Be with a girl if you want and live together but don't get married unless she has more than you

adult-help 09-06-2010 11:12 PM

Sure, there are tons of unhappy marriages everywhere but there is one important thing those guys complaining are forgetting: taking somenthing for granted.

Being with someone for a longer time you start to take for granted a lot of small or not so small things this person does for you. They dont bother you or you dont even think about them because you take them for granted. You get them every day and they make you feel good. But you dont take them into account when evaluation your situation and you only concentrate on things that make your marriage "unbearable". Small things wives do for you (and of course this goes in both ways of course - many women take things the husband does for granted) like cuddling, maybe a delicious meal, helping you fix a tshirt or tie a tie, taking kids to school,washing the clothes or dishes, going somewhere instead of you when you are busy, sharing the work load etc...I mean tons of things that we take for granted and only concentrate on bad things...

It is easy to say marriage sux and this and that while we still take all these things for granted. I 100% agree wit saying that say "only after you lose something you realize how valuable it was to you". But when you have this you hardly see sense in this saying..That is why so many people think "I should just divorce" but when they do then they lose all the good things they took for granted, not only bad things that bothered them.And they feel completely lost..heck, I have heard many people even get suicidal although they should be happy and relived getting out of supposedly bad relationship/marriage. Other people , instead of enjoying their supposed freedom, quickly jump into another ill fated relationship because the lack of things we took for granted affect you so much.

But of course, that is not in all cases - there really are so terrible marriages where the divorce is the best option.

JD 09-06-2010 11:56 PM

been with my wife since 1998... we were 16 when we met :X

lisa sparks 09-07-2010 12:29 AM

Figured since I have 15 years under my belt I would tell you guys what I told me older brother who got married a couple of years ago...remember it's a job too so make sure that you show up and pay attention to the little things.....women are funny about the little things...we love them :) No marriage is perfect and no couple is not going to have something that could become the downfall of their relationship...but someone once told me that all the things that drew you to the person in the first place will be the first things that annoy you after 25 years..lol so true ;) marry someone who is your friend too because that is going to be what lasts...I don't think I have ever wanted to divorce my friends....lol just my thoughts

KillerK 09-07-2010 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17450065)
like I said, there is no one single right answer for everyone. The bennie's might make sense to one couple but not to another. And of course, I'm only speaking from my own personal experience. The combinations of complexity that are possible are many. But I will tell you this...

My 1st marriage: I was 22, active military living in Germany, fell over backwards for a hot blonde (also military), and got married straight away because it was romantic. Met in Germany, married in Denmark, honeymoon in Spain.... we were young, full of fuck, and having a blast. It lasted a year. (mostly because we were military and usually not together very long in one place.) No kids. (but I have a prior son from high school days)

My 2nd marriage: Occurred the day after my first divorce was final. I was literally pressured into it by the chick, and like an idiot, went through with it. It lasted 4 miserable fucking years. (3.5 years too long) 2 kids resulted.

My 3rd marriage: After my second divorce, I waited 3 years before even attempting to meet anyone. After meeting her, we lived together for 10 years, had one child that died, and just got married last january. Still going strong. We ultimately married for the benefits that we couldn't legally have living together single. Period. Otherwise we'd have gone the rest of our lives together, happily unmarried.


It's just a piece of paper folks. If the relationship isn't there, no piece of paper is going to help you. Marriage itself isn't fucked up.... people are fucked up. I've taken the risk and lost half my shit twice. It's really not a big deal... it's just, stuff. Stuff that can always be replaced with more stuff.

great words of advice

On another note, what island do you live on?

RadicalSights 09-07-2010 01:59 AM

Monogamy is not natural. That's why it usually fails.

Paul Markham 09-07-2010 02:14 AM

My first two marriages were disasters, not going into why.

The third one should of been headed for trouble from day one. I'm in porn, Eva was 21 and I was 48, Eva was from a small town in Czech and I'm from London.

13 years later we've been through the hell of the last two years and our love is stronger than it's ever been.


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