Try to answer to this question yourself. Perhaps the person who meets more Latin-American and Asian guys can see the difference much better than one who meets less of them. The same is related to motorcycles (I believe you know them better than me), horse breeds or programming which I know far better than you. So what?

No, still not legal.

The police are probably pimping them out and getting a cut from the drugs.

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it's okay.

And I know Las Vegas much better than you, yet you argue that I do not know what I am talking about.

I apologize if the translation went over your head.

yeah, we're all gay. thats why we grant freedom of expression to everyone who moves along with the laws. :error



banning parades to protect people is not exactly a sign of democracy

Yes you know. But this doesn't change my opinion about what I saw by my own eyes.

You don't have to. I do understand your language and as far as you see. I'm not trying to speak to you on mine, because you won't be able to understand it. So as you can see, I'm taking your narrowness into account and trying to avoid any mentioning of it.

Be sure to call me on it if you ever see me arguing Russian law with you.

For some reason, your comment made me think of the saying, believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. And your OPINION is just that. Incorrect, but an opinion no less.

That's exactly the same video I was going to show you. As you can see, there are a small group of gays and a big crowd of furious people including christian fanatics. I can imagine what would happen to gays if police won't stop the parade....

Really? I don't think so. You have to look into the dictionary for the meaning of "democracy".

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I thought every europen knew that america has the highest incaration rate of any westernized nation?!?!?

cops love to beat and arrest people and the courts love to lock them up

That's a nose made for cocaine!

http://www.deadlinehollyweird.com/pa..._las_vegas.jpg

That video is disgusting and unfortunately very typical. A lot of Russians are violent and racist homophobes. Not all, but many. I have seen some really sickening stuff in and around Russia.

I thought this thread is about Paris Hilton?..

When you take a ride through whole Russia on your bike, there really will be something to discuss with you about our laws, people, nature etc. I'm telling you this absolutely seriously. You said "believe only half of what you see". Perhaps you are right, but you still have to see something by your own eyes but not to just hear about it from the TV News. :2 cents:

Man, you were misinformed. Democracy is not something the US soldiers doing in Iraq (i.e. killing 1000's of innocent foreign people for the priceless oil).

Here is a quote from wikipedia (sorry for the source, I'm too lazy to look for the English definition in other places):

So when 90% of Moscow citizens DO NOT WANT to see gay parades and many of them even ready to start a mass beating of the parade members, the Moscow government simple submit to the peoples will and bans the parade (power is derived from the people). You Americans have very perverted view of democracy. I don't know why exactly this has happened. Perhaps something wrong with your food or water :winkwink:

Democracy is not punching someone in the face. You are correct though. Democracy is not freedom. A true democracy is nothing more than the tyranny of the masses. That is why America was founded as a Constitutional Republic. Apparently you do not realize Russia is also a Republic and not a Democracy...

Randy I think the swastika symbols are uncalled for, especially for European people.

Correct, and also it's not killing civilians from military helicopters :2 cents:

Actually I do.

I never said it was. You talk like the Russian government and military are made up of saints. The atrocities committed by the Russian military in Chechnya are every bit as bad, if not worse, than what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Then why did you say this:

In a free society no majority has the right to trample on the rights of any minority.

100 coke heads :)

With only one exception. Iraq and Afghanistan are INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES. They are not a part of the USA. Can't you really see the difference???

It is no excuse. Chechnya SHOULD be independent just like many other countries that were part of the Soviet Union. They have been fighting for their independence for over 100 years. So, why does Russia not let these people live in peace and with autonomy? Oil maybe?

eh..i doubt she does any time....celebrity rehab maybe

dr drew will straighten her out..lol


the swastika is everywhere in korea...on all the Buddhist buildings

im not sure but i think its reversed though also

It is the only thing that has a sense. Everything else is just a useles occupation demagogy.

Chechnya NEVER WAS among 15 Soviet Republics. Surprised? It ALWAYS was a part of Russian Republic.

Please better tell this bullshit to the US people. Make them think about American Indians robbed, raped and killed by the "US fathers". Make them think about Africans that were forceful relocated to America and used by the "US fathers" as slaves for many years. Make them leave America to Indians and go back to their historical lands (UK, France, Spain etc). Can't you?

You are soooooo misinformed. Don't trust FOX and Russia Today. Chechnya is already an autonomy which exists on billion subsidies from Russia (personally I as a tax payer have no will to feed these fuckers from my pocket). They actually live by sharia law. For example, you can't buy a booze there. You can have as many wives as you can buy (yes I mean money) including underage ones, you must me a Muslim to live there w/o problems, if you are woman and you are walking by the street without a shawl, you will be shot with a paintball riffle and so on...

Chechnya is not Iraq. There is no oil in industrial volumes.

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Randy West when does school start again?

You are comparing things that happened in America (and much of the rest of the world) to what is happening in Chechnya TODAY.

I am misinformed? Your media is all-but entirely controlled by the government. It may not be as bad as "Pravda" during Soviet Times, but it is hardly a free press. Also, I do not watch Fox News and Russia Today is funded by your government.

So they are an autonomous nation subsidized by the Russian government yet the Russian government is constantly at war with them?

Interesting. Any sources?

Think pipelines. Think access to Caspian sea.

Why should Chechnya NOT be it's own independent country?

Why is controlling that region so important to the Russian government?

Not today but 20 years ago when Chechens have killed 10000's of Russians just because they were not Muslims. But does it really matter?

My media? :1orglaugh You have a different one? :pimp

Man, EVERY media is controlled by government. Directly or indirectly. Don't be a kid, this is a real world.

You are wrong. FOX News was not funded by "my" government. It's an US Republican propaganda as well as Russia Today is pro-Kremlin propaganda. Same shit, diffident face.

See my reply above.

There are no official sources. Politkovskaya was trying to write about it. Do you know where exactly she is now? However there are lots of independent blogs in the Internet, there is youtube etc.

Think South Stream.

Because their legit president elected by Chechens and those Chechens themselves (there was a referendum) don't want it. You know, it's better to do nothing and live like kings for Russian money. As I told you above, I don't want to feed these useless people, but I'm in minority, so I can't do anything about it.

Ask Putin about it.

I thought this thread was about Paris Hilton?

Me too :)

Paris "SS Doomtrooper" Hilton.

Randy West, that's shocking. You found the character for a swastika.

Many more Chechens were killed my Russians than vice versa.

Controlled != manipulated. Russian media is directly controlled by the Kremlin and ultimately Putin. Do you think Obama directly controls the US media? Tell that to Fox News.

You are wrong. FOX News was not funded by "my" government. It's an US Republican propaganda as well as Russia Today is pro-Kremlin propaganda. Same shit, diffident face.[/QUOTE]

I never said they were. I said Russia Today was.

If the leaders of and people of Chechnya do not want independence what were the wars over?

Are you seriously saying that Chechens are living like kings with Russian money?

You say you do not want to feed them, but do you agree they should have total independence, their own currency and national sovereignty if they want it?

It seems to me that when it comes to Chechnya you are every bit as bigoted and uninformed as the stereotypical Fox News devotee is when it comes to the Middle East.

I don't want to know where did you get the numbers and I don't think you will be able show them to me, so I don't care. I just don't play these games "who kills more". It's not an action movie.

Obama is nothing. He doesn't decide anything. There are much more powerful people behind his back - they are the real power. As I said above it's a real world but not a movie. I'm open for any mature discussion, but in your case it's like to explain to a child what quantum mechanic is. Sorry, but PLEASE no offense if I will ignore your posts. Nothing personal, ok?

P.S. As about Russian media. 1st and 2nd national TV channels are directly controlled by Kremlin. Others are not (e.g. REN TV). Radio (e.g. Echo Msk), press and internet media are uncontrolled as well (I REALLY HOPE I don't have to explain why youtube.com don't give a shit about Russian government).

Caucasian War: Russian army of a quarter million troops invades an army of around 7,000 troops of which at least 5,000 were killed. Dead Russians ~4,000. The number of civilians killed is not really known.

Soviet Rule: The entire Chechen population was deported to Siberia. 170,000 to 200,000 Chechens were killed (up to 1/2 of their entire population) vs. no dead Soviets.

First Chechen War: 100,000+ Dead Chechens (mostly civilians) vs. ~5,362 Dead Russians (all military).

Second Chechen War: 25,000 to 200,000+ Dead Checkens (mostly civilians) vs. 8,000 to 40,000 Dead Russians (all military).

Up to 505,000 Dead Chechens vs. up to 49,362 (most likely less than 20,000) Dead Russians.

The truth is too scary for you I guess.

I'm not an armchair cowboy sitting on my Lazy Boy down in Texas. I have a flat in Russia and have lived in various parts of Russia, off and on, for 10 years. I am well aware of how the press in the West is manipulated. I am also not just picking on your motherland. There are some issues that I totally side with Russia on (e.g. the Soviets being unfairly labeled as invaders of Afghanistan).

Here is a good article on your free press:

Also Russia is currently ranked 153rd in the Press Freedom Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

I'm not gonna lie, I'd hit it.

But I wouldn't let her climax. :2 cents:

Here's some more. I'd hit too.

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man when a government starts hiring professional assasins to murder journalist that are critical of the administration... how do they come back from that? 14 dead reporters? Man Putin has got to go.