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u-Bob 10-03-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsteele (Post 17564059)
Most importantly BITTORRENT IS NOT USED FOR LEGITIMATE DOWNLOADING.....Anyone here use BT for legal purposes?

I downloaded a slackware iso last week using bittorrent. perfectly legal.

u-Bob 10-03-2010 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsteele (Post 17565559)
Anyone who things P2P is legit is using BT to download something illegal IMHO.

p2p = a type of architecture.
bittorrent = a p2p protocol.

Using those things is not illegal.
Yes, they can be used to download stolen content. And that would be illegal. A car can be used to transport stolen goods, but that doesn't make cars or the use of cars illegal.... djeez...

candyflip 10-03-2010 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17565970)
p2p = a type of architecture.
bittorrent = a p2p protocol.

Using those things is not illegal.
Yes, they can be used to download stolen content. And that would be illegal. A car can be used to transport stolen goods, but that doesn't make cars or the use of cars illegal.... djeez...

He's a lawyer and you're not. He already knows everything. :winkwink:

will76 10-03-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17563518)
How much is the average downloader being sued for?

How much is the person who uploads the content being sued for ?

care to answer ?

gideongallery 10-03-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsteele (Post 17565559)
Ouch. Gideon Gallery is not a believer. I respect that. Lets agree to this. I will sue people, and you keep telling people what I'm doing is stupid. We will see who gets to $1M with this project first. How much money can you make arguing for the continuation of illegal downloading? Anyone who things P2P is legit is using BT to download something illegal IMHO.

I respect those who disagree with me, and I hope that in the end, we can have a beer and debate this at a bar at the next AVN show.

still noticed you didn't commit your firms resources to everyone if your efforts create another fair use barrier to everyone elses cases (ala teen revenue botched unfair business attempt)

i would respect you if you did that, it would prove that you truely believed your "anyone who thinks p2p is legit is using BT to download something illegal"

let be honest it a money grab , you know this could turn out badly but you don't give a fuck because all it going to do is increase your billable hours if you lose.

iSpyCams 10-03-2010 09:29 AM

I wonder if it's legal to send them an invoice with some prominent text threatening legal action in case of non-payment.

I know in America you can sue anybody for anything, but sending out invoices willy-nilly is most likely not allowed.

My point is, invoicing, if legal would be gentler, certainly cheaper and wouldn't preclude suing non payers.

Barefootsies 10-03-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 17566315)
I wonder if it's legal to send them an invoice with some prominent text threatening legal action in case of non-payment.

I know in America you can sue anybody for anything, but sending out invoices willy-nilly is most likely not allowed.

My point is, invoicing, if legal would be gentler, certainly cheaper and wouldn't preclude suing non payers.

Interesting thought.

candyflip 10-03-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsteele (Post 17565559)
We will see who gets to $1M with this project first. How much money can you make arguing for the continuation of illegal downloading?

Ah ha. So it is just about the money. At least we are right on that part. :winkwink:

Serge Litehead 10-03-2010 10:24 AM

gideon, you cannot throw that "50% legit torrents/downloads" until you can completely verify all of them who had what rights to this "redundant backup cloud" of yours. please stop making up facts on the fly to suit your "agenda" to counter argue.

MrRob 10-03-2010 10:30 AM

It's not only a money grab, they are creating a cash crop.

Wouldn't it be sweet if the gov payed you the fines directly and then had the offenders put on a payment plan to pay back the government.


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