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tom3k 10-17-2010 08:22 PM
Be a man.

Get a real SSD.

Using these is like fucking a tranny... Sure its got tits, but it ain't no woman.

Juicy D. Links 10-17-2010 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tom3k (Post 17616969)
Be a man.

Get a real SSD.

Using these is like fucking a tranny... Sure its got tits, but it ain't no woman.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh yeah man I saw the one Fris mentioned I am gonna get me one of the Intel ones full SSD... the hybrids are good but there are stills vulnerable platters in em,,

Going with the intel SSD

aleck 10-17-2010 10:02 PM
I have an SLC SSD for 1.5 years and actually have no complaints at all. Two external USB drives 500 GB for data if needed.

MrMaxwell 10-18-2010 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17609264)
No doubt that a real SSD drive is much better, but compare the price of a 500gb SSD with the price of a 500GB Momentus XT Hybrid and it's a no brainer. Even for a professional graphics workstation I would buy a couple of these hybrids and put them in a RAID 0 configuration. The speed will be comparable to what you would get with a normal SSD price and for a fraction of the price.
Good idea, but would that take care of the stuttering/freezing issues with MLC drives I've heard about??? I wouldn't think so.. And wouldn't RAID0 confuse the piss out of the algo the drive uses??

grumpy 10-18-2010 04:55 AM
waste of money, take the intel drives, faster and cheaper

Ethersync 10-18-2010 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17617612)
Good idea, but would that take care of the stuttering/freezing issues with MLC drives I've heard about??? I wouldn't think so.. And wouldn't RAID0 confuse the piss out of the algo the drive uses??
Momentus XTs use SLC memory. No, it works fine with the algorithm.

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So for the price of one 128GB SSD, you can purchase two Momentus XT drives, run them in a RAID 0 configuration, almost match the speed, and get eight times the storage. I don't know about you, but a terabyte of storage with speeds almost as fast an SSD, sure sounds great to me. When it comes to buying a hard drive, I look for price and for performance. On that note, I?m very impressed with Momentus XT. It?s been great testing this new device and I definitely recommend it.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...t_500gb/12.htm

EDIT:

According to Seagate using these drives in RAID arrays is not supported.

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Thank you for choosing Seagate. These drives are not designed or intended to be used in a RAID configuration, and the drives are working as designed. I would recommend using an ES or Enterprise drive, as the firmware in those drives are designed and better suited for RAID use. Basically, you are attempting to use the drives in a manner that was not intended, nor can be supported. If the drives pass Seatools and this issue only occurs in your RAID configuration, then the drives are fine.

Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thank you again for choosing Seagate and have a great day!

Bryan
Seagate Technical Support
There is a firmware upgrade now that may fix some of the lagging issues people reported and improve RAID support. I have seen several people write about setting up these drives in a RAID 0 configuration with great results.

http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentu...m-p/56055#M394

Ethersync 10-18-2010 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17617639)
Momentus XTs use SLC memory. No, it works fine with the algorithm.



http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...t_500gb/12.htm

EDIT:

According to Seagate using these drives in RAID arrays is not supported.



There is a firmware upgrade now that may fix some of the lagging issues people reported and improve RAID support. I have seen several people write about setting up these drives in a RAID 0 configuration with great results.

http://forums.seagate.com/t5/Momentu...m-p/56055#M394
I downloaded the drive check app that Seagate provides and I have the latest firmware already so maybe that is why I do not have the problems others have reported.

MrBottomTooth 10-18-2010 06:12 AM
I just ordered a new computer to use as a file server in my home and I got it with a 120 GB SSD drive for the OS drive. Was this a bad idea? I thought this would be the smart way to go, using a secondary 2TB drive for my files, but after this thread, I am thinking I made a mistake.

It is going to be on 24/7, 365 days a year.

Rankings 10-18-2010 06:14 AM
i have been hearing mixed results, some love it, some hate it

Ethersync 10-18-2010 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17617706)
I downloaded the drive check app that Seagate provides and I have the latest firmware already so maybe that is why I do not have the problems others have reported.
I found some tips on how to speed up your Momentus XT. After disabling Windows prefetching (like you would with an SSD) and installing Intel Matrix drivers things seem to run even faster. I also disabled automatic defragging.

Juicy D. Links 10-18-2010 07:54 AM
I made a beautiful thread please send me flowers and candy loll

D Ghost 10-18-2010 08:54 AM
I just installed this drive (500 GB version) into my MacBook about 2 months ago, it's amazing and it's like having a brand new computer.

MrMaxwell 10-18-2010 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17608219)
Not as far as you think...



http://www.storagereview.com/seagate_momentus_xt_review

Commonly used apps/files are cached to the SSD memory so related tasks are extremely fast.
I heard about the patch.. but I didn't believe it'd actually work.. If it does, that's great to hear.. I also didn't know the MomentusXT drives used SLC memory, that is good to know, too..

I think users who want big capacity in one drive and speed for apps and the o/s should buy the Momentus...

The velociraptor is the same price but delivers good performance "all of the time". Although the price per mb is a-lot higher $129 500gb momemtus vs $129 150gb velociraptor :(


I thought the raptor I had back in the day was 15,000rpm... why are they only 10,000 now?? And the seek time is down to 3ms? I believe mine was 5.4 or so .. still was a whole lot better than IDE drives

Juicy D. Links 10-19-2010 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17620692)
I heard about the patch.. but I didn't believe it'd actually work.. If it does, that's great to hear.. I also didn't know the MomentusXT drives used SLC memory, that is good to know, too..

I think users who want big capacity in one drive and speed for apps and the o/s should buy the Momentus...

The velociraptor is the same price but delivers good performance "all of the time". Although the price per mb is a-lot higher $129 500gb momemtus vs $129 150gb velociraptor :(


I thought the raptor I had back in the day was 15,000rpm... why are they only 10,000 now?? And the seek time is down to 3ms? I believe mine was 5.4 or so .. still was a whole lot better than IDE drives
my cock revs at 10k RPMS

Juicy D. Links 10-19-2010 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 17620692)


I thought the raptor I had back in the day was 15,000rpm... why are they only 10,000 now?? And the seek time is down to 3ms? I believe mine was 5.4 or so .. still was a whole lot better than IDE drives
i dont think they made HD's running at 15k?

MrMaxwell 10-21-2010 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 17623711)
i dont think they made HD's running at 15k?
Of course they did
They've had 15K scsi just about fucking forever man


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