I know I managed to get about 1/2 page in the ICANN summary by actually putting some effort into my comments.

Most of the people who only took the easy way and clicked a form mail just got shuffled into some summary totals.

ICANN Senior counsel post
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-rev.../msg00723.html

Summary and Analysis of Comments
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-rev...gobMUikQOp.pdf

NO .xxx :disgust:disgust:disgust

A website called ICMRegistry posted this:

ICM Registry welcomes approval of .XXX
ICM Registry is delighted to announce that the ICANN Board has approved the .xxx top-level domain. The decision should soon bring to fruition our six-year effort to create a specific Web address for online adult entertainment, and comes on the heels of an independent review that declared that ICANN’s previous decision to deny .xxx was wrong.

Chairman Stuart Lawley said of the decision: “It’s been a long time coming, but I’m excited about the fact that .xxx will soon become a reality. This is great news."


end quote.

Is it a scam site?

No, it is not a scam. You have found ICM?s real site. How, you might ask, despite all of the empirical evidence to the contrary, could Stuart declare .xxx a ?done deal?? The unfortunate answer is that the man is experiencing delusions of grandeur. Put quite simply, I don?t think that he is a well man.

There is no need for a mandatory anything.... You can already label your sites with rta/safesurf and other similar tags. A lot of people already do....

The decision may be out of your hands, but your actions will help influence those who do make the decisions.

the problem is that there is a big difference between what the ICM claims it will do and won't do and what it in reality does. They've already used the preregistrations as a sign of support.

:thumbsup Just don't forget that posting something positive about .xxx on the boards (or something that could be perceived as positive) can be abused by the ICM to falsely claim they have our support. posting that you've preregistered domains without mentioning that you are against the .xxx tld is one of those things that could be abused.

.xxx can eat a dick..

US senators? Why should the rest of the world care?

These guys are very long on paranoid conspiracy theories and very short on explanations as to how this would actually work, be implemented effectively globally, be enforced globally, never mind the simple issue of how a private US company is suddenly going to become the worlds porn police and force every porn site on the planet to one single tld - an act which not violates so many international laws and trade agreements that they couldn't even be counted but that has nothing to do with ICANN or any other international legal body. No even has legal jurisdiction or authority to make such a thing happen.

But hey, who cares about the tedious details? Spreading unfounded fears and Irrational paranoia to watch the herd scatter is much more fun.

ICANN's rules for allowing new TLDs have changed dramatically in the time the .xxx insanity started. Everyone here is in deep deep deep denial to believe there won't eventually be .xxx/.sex tld's anyway.

and btw Ubob... people have been pre-registering .xxx, .sex, .god and all kinds of idiotic tlds since way before Stewart Lawly came around. I remember this happening in 97/98 Just ask Gordon (aka Mr Integrity) from Domainnamesystems :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

This is on the same moronic level as that Porngirl on twitter that wants to stop other Porngirls to share pix of themselves.

Für zee children!

Let's take what is happing with Canadian Pharmacies as an example. Legitscript.com, a private US based company founded by a former member of the Bush administration, is taking down Canadian sites (sites that are legal in Canada) by convincing US based registrars (enom/namecheap for example) to suspended those domains based on US law and regulations.

Now can we PIN this answer as sigs for EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see your point...

.XXX is proposed as a "Sponsored top-level domain" (sTLD), which means the .XXX registry will be permitted to enforce various registration and usage rules. This is not some new thing - many other sTLDs, such as .aero, .museum, and .travel, have long enforced various restrictions globally.

See link below for more details about sTLDs ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsored_top-level_domain

In short, to reiterate, as a sTLD, the ICM .XXX registry will be able to enforce restrictions regarding registration and usage.

It's not irrational at all given human nature and past history.

As far as enforcement, it may not be just governments, but also private corporations, such as payment processors requiring adult sites to brand (ie. no .com landing pages, etc) and operate solely within .XXX.

Anyone doubting that's possible need only look at all the restrictions that payment processors already enforce, such as domains containing various words in them, such as "young", "lolita", "lolicon", etc.

Don't be so sure of that. .WEB seemed like a sure thing - was even tentatively approved by the IANA back in the day; among the new TLDs proposed by Jon Postel so it had credibility - and yet .WEB has gone nowhere; .web is basically dead...

More info regarding .WEB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.web

While on that topic, .KIDS is another proposed sTLD which, ironically, has many similarities to the proposed .XXX sTLD, that has gone nowhere due to many of the same issues facing .XXX.

There's no doubt many more TLDs are coming, but it won't be anything goes nor will past history will be ignored - some proposed TLDs are damaged goods, likely never to see the light of day - .XXX, .KIDS, and .WEB all fall into that category.

Ron

That has NOTHING to do with HOW anyone thinks that suddenly every version of sex.com, sex.net, sex.org, sex.ru, sex.co.uk etc is going to end up at sex.xxx. Obviously that can't happen and no one has a reasonable explanation as to how it can... taking into account actual international business and trade law, intellectual property law and trademark law.

You are really confusing this point. Everyone understands that .edu is reserved for accredited colleges and universities and that there are rules regarding its usage. But obviously no college or university is required to own a .edu domain. You are saying as an example that somehow every educational institution IN THE WORLD is going to be required to be on a .edu domain... even though its clearly not possible, clearly not enforceable and no one can put forth a reasonable manner in which this can be done thats fair to everyone, protects their business, marks/brands, legal rights and so on.

And by the way, i'm not for or against .xxx - I just don't care. However, I have always found it a bit odd that with all the intelligent people in this biz, no one can put forth a better argument than "first they require you children to be inoculated against polio... which is obviously going to lead to government agents stealing your babies in the night".

Like every fight in this business, it lacks focus, it lacks organization and it lacks clear, easy to understand selling points that everyone can rally behind. When people have to keep asking questions, after so many years rather than instantly understand why something is wrong, its an indication that the message itself is failing miserably.

will .xxx affect non-us webmasters the same as us webmasters?

Why aren't we blackballing XBiz then?

They stand to make millions from .XXX and supported it fully in the past.

So someone pays $30m for sex.com and someone else pays $10m for sex.net. Someone's going to have a broken heart, I guess.

They already have filtering software (that all 13 year olds know how to bypass), is having all the porn on one TLD really going to stop the proxy sites?

may I quote you on that ?:winkwink::thumbsup

Looks like it's happening sooner or later, but shouldn't the discussion be about why everyone thinks it's going to be worse than all other voluntary self regulatory methods so far:

http://www.icmregistry.com/news/welcomeapproval.php

Hermes, why would we want another regulatory scheme? They all seem to suck. Don't we have enough?

.xxx sounds good. With the .xxx name, the adult association is implied.

True that it's not useful to have too many regulatory schemes overlapping, but most of the comments seem to assume that this voluntary service will become more or less mandatory and "ruin" the whole industry. But if majority likes to stay with .com then why would .xxx be a threat to them? It is that question we need to explain to them if we don't want it to happen. Simple "I oppose" or "we don't need it" is not enough.

Lest we forget, .XXX will not be voluntary is some people have their ways:

According to the Congressional Research Service records:

In past Congresses, two bills were introduced to require the Department of Commerce to compel ICANN to establish a mandatory top level domain name
(such as .xxx) for material that is deemed “harmful to minors.” The bills were S. 2426 (109th Congress), which was introduced by Senator Baucus, and S. 2137 (107th Congress), which was introduced by Senator Landrieu.:disgust

Well it looks like voluntary .xxx will happen, wheter it turns to mandatory is another issue.

We wouldn't have this issue, if there were not so much free and unlabeled porn easily accessible online. If some kind of mandatory regulation will be approved one day, it will be because voluntary methods were not enough effective.

Then it will be mostly a technical issue, but I'd think that adding a simple tag to main index file or separate file in webroot, will be much easier and effective solution. Because forcing everyone to use .xxx will be impossible, but adding a simple file should be easy to do no matter how small player they are.

This is from another thread, it is already happening.

read the part about the legislation that has already been introduced.

Like i said: if you are doing a search for rabbits and Google sends you to a porn site, who's to blame? The porn site or Google?

If you want to go to street A and your TomTom sends you to street C, who's to blame? Whoever happens to be living in street C or your TomTom?


You can already label your sites. Most people are already doing it.

US based company convincing US based registrar to suspend domains for sites that are hosted on Canada by Canadians is one thing.

what if the the registrar isn't US based, the site is hosted on a server in Canada and is operated by Canadians ?