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This is from an earlier thread that was started yesterday:
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Quick update?
According to the Board resolution from ICANN?s October 28th Board meeting: The Board Chair shall engage the GAC Chair on developing a process for consultation with the GAC on its advice about the ICM application. That means the ICANN Board must go to GAC (Government Advisory Council) and have it clarify its previous advice from their Wellington Communiqué (a document from the ICANN conference in 2006) and their Lisbon Communiqué (a document from the ICANN conference in Lisbon of 2007). Both documents oppose moving forward with .XXX. The good news is that from what I gathered at the June GAC meeting in Brussels, the GAC feels as if nothing has changed and that its original decision stands. Also, according to ICANN?s Bylaws, the Board is required to take GAC advice into consideration. If they do not go with GAC advice they have to explain why. The bad news is that it seems that the ICANN Board Chair, Peter Dengate-Thrush is very much in favor of .XXX. SO we must get to the other Board members. FSC will write a letter to GAC and connect with the people on GAC with whom we have established relationships in order to lobby against .XXX. Additionally, we will work with our counterpart EROS in Australia to do the same. We will also write a letter to the ICANN Board touching on the concerns raised by GAC and point out that the GAC?a committee comprised of 150 governments--and the entire adult community oppose .XXX while the only entity that supports .XXX is ICM?an entity that stands to make hundreds of millions annually off the industry. It?s not over folks. FSC will be in Cartagena fighting for the industry and we will be submitting a number of documents to ICANN and GAC before then. Should ICANN move forward with .XXX there are still three avenues for appeal FSC and the industry can and will consider. Finally we are looking into ways that industry professionals can lobby GAC and the ICANN Board. Stay tuned, we will keep you posted. Remember, the decision from the ICANN Board to seek consultation from GAC is a very good sign. Don?t believe the crap that Stuart Lawley is spouting-don?t drink the Koolaid?it is far from over! |
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But I don't want to be standing around looking stupid either if it does come about. The decision whether it gets approved or not is way out of my hands. So I guess it is ok to secretly preregister your domains in the event that it does come about. But in public you have to deny that you done so. How fake! Well at the first of the year if it does happen to get approved we will see just how many people that are against it have .xxx domains immediately. |
Don't feel bad about preregistering a .xxx gTLD domain name.
When the program was announced, the adult industry did not have a clear understanding of the goals and ramifications of the .XXX gTLD program and had not organized itself in opposition. Moreover, several major adult players came out in support of .xxx at that time. Many people registered domains during that time as nothing was seen as being wrong with the registrations. Since that time, many have registered their .com domain names in order to protect their existing businesses. Neither situation should be a cause for embarrassment as the actions occurred either before the ramifications were clear or in order to protect your existing domains which are both reasonable business decisions given the situations. As ICM has said that preregistrations will not be used as a sign of industry support, potentially, no serious harm was done. Now, knowing what we know, just be sure to show your opposition to .XXX when asked by your trade association, the Free Speech Coalition. :thumbsup Just my personal opinion. |
I have voiced my opposition directly to Icann and other places. As directed by people at this forum that have posted links to organized opposition support places.
It is sensible people like you Redrob that keeps me believing in this business.. |
Wild Johnny,
Thank you for the compliment. <blushes> |
.xxx really sucks!
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I think it's important to discuss and list the exact negative effects of .xxx VS the proposed "benefits". Then if we use logical reasoning in all the feedback it should have much more weight than 1000 plain "I oppose" comments, because many people involved don't automaticly see the big picture.
"ICM Registry, which is backing the domain, said .xxx would make it easier to filter out inappropriate content." That's their main reasoning, but as been said here it's already next to impossible to filter all the sites, and this kind of filtering could be already done on other levels, like some mandatory html tag or file, without need to alter domain names. |
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Most of the people who only took the easy way and clicked a form mail just got shuffled into some summary totals. ICANN Senior counsel post http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-rev.../msg00723.html Summary and Analysis of Comments http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-rev...gobMUikQOp.pdf |
Offshore incorporation |
NO .xxx :disgust:disgust:disgust
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A website called ICMRegistry posted this:
ICM Registry welcomes approval of .XXX ICM Registry is delighted to announce that the ICANN Board has approved the .xxx top-level domain. The decision should soon bring to fruition our six-year effort to create a specific Web address for online adult entertainment, and comes on the heels of an independent review that declared that ICANN’s previous decision to deny .xxx was wrong. Chairman Stuart Lawley said of the decision: “It’s been a long time coming, but I’m excited about the fact that .xxx will soon become a reality. This is great news." end quote. Is it a scam site? |
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Government censuring simply by forcing ISP to to block the tld Banning of adult keyword domains that use .com .net .org etc. A slow but fatal infliction on the industry. |
.xxx can eat a dick..
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US senators? Why should the rest of the world care?
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But hey, who cares about the tedious details? Spreading unfounded fears and Irrational paranoia to watch the herd scatter is much more fun. ICANN's rules for allowing new TLDs have changed dramatically in the time the .xxx insanity started. Everyone here is in deep deep deep denial to believe there won't eventually be .xxx/.sex tld's anyway. and btw Ubob... people have been pre-registering .xxx, .sex, .god and all kinds of idiotic tlds since way before Stewart Lawly came around. I remember this happening in 97/98 Just ask Gordon (aka Mr Integrity) from Domainnamesystems :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
This is on the same moronic level as that Porngirl on twitter that wants to stop other Porngirls to share pix of themselves.
Für zee children! |
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Now can we PIN this answer as sigs for EVERYONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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See link below for more details about sTLDs ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sponsored_top-level_domain In short, to reiterate, as a sTLD, the ICM .XXX registry will be able to enforce restrictions regarding registration and usage. Quote:
As far as enforcement, it may not be just governments, but also private corporations, such as payment processors requiring adult sites to brand (ie. no .com landing pages, etc) and operate solely within .XXX. Anyone doubting that's possible need only look at all the restrictions that payment processors already enforce, such as domains containing various words in them, such as "young", "lolita", "lolicon", etc. Quote:
More info regarding .WEB http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.web While on that topic, .KIDS is another proposed sTLD which, ironically, has many similarities to the proposed .XXX sTLD, that has gone nowhere due to many of the same issues facing .XXX. There's no doubt many more TLDs are coming, but it won't be anything goes nor will past history will be ignored - some proposed TLDs are damaged goods, likely never to see the light of day - .XXX, .KIDS, and .WEB all fall into that category. Ron |
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You are really confusing this point. Everyone understands that .edu is reserved for accredited colleges and universities and that there are rules regarding its usage. But obviously no college or university is required to own a .edu domain. You are saying as an example that somehow every educational institution IN THE WORLD is going to be required to be on a .edu domain... even though its clearly not possible, clearly not enforceable and no one can put forth a reasonable manner in which this can be done thats fair to everyone, protects their business, marks/brands, legal rights and so on. |
And by the way, i'm not for or against .xxx - I just don't care. However, I have always found it a bit odd that with all the intelligent people in this biz, no one can put forth a better argument than "first they require you children to be inoculated against polio... which is obviously going to lead to government agents stealing your babies in the night".
Like every fight in this business, it lacks focus, it lacks organization and it lacks clear, easy to understand selling points that everyone can rally behind. When people have to keep asking questions, after so many years rather than instantly understand why something is wrong, its an indication that the message itself is failing miserably. |
will .xxx affect non-us webmasters the same as us webmasters?
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They stand to make millions from .XXX and supported it fully in the past. |
So someone pays $30m for sex.com and someone else pays $10m for sex.net. Someone's going to have a broken heart, I guess.
They already have filtering software (that all 13 year olds know how to bypass), is having all the porn on one TLD really going to stop the proxy sites? |
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Looks like it's happening sooner or later, but shouldn't the discussion be about why everyone thinks it's going to be worse than all other voluntary self regulatory methods so far:
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Hermes, why would we want another regulatory scheme? They all seem to suck. Don't we have enough?
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.xxx sounds good. With the .xxx name, the adult association is implied.
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Lest we forget, .XXX will not be voluntary is some people have their ways:
According to the Congressional Research Service records: In past Congresses, two bills were introduced to require the Department of Commerce to compel ICANN to establish a mandatory top level domain name (such as .xxx) for material that is deemed “harmful to minors.” The bills were S. 2426 (109th Congress), which was introduced by Senator Baucus, and S. 2137 (107th Congress), which was introduced by Senator Landrieu.:disgust |
Well it looks like voluntary .xxx will happen, wheter it turns to mandatory is another issue.
We wouldn't have this issue, if there were not so much free and unlabeled porn easily accessible online. If some kind of mandatory regulation will be approved one day, it will be because voluntary methods were not enough effective. Then it will be mostly a technical issue, but I'd think that adding a simple tag to main index file or separate file in webroot, will be much easier and effective solution. Because forcing everyone to use .xxx will be impossible, but adding a simple file should be easy to do no matter how small player they are. |
This is from another thread, it is already happening.
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