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donkevlar 11-01-2010 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17658509)
The day you can buy Heroin and Crack in a Stop and Rob will be the day that those stats change.

Would you do herion or crack just because it became legal?

$5 submissions 11-01-2010 05:08 PM

I believe it. Back when I was in college, frat bros who drank always gave stoner bros grief. It's all a political question of whose vice is more "acceptable".

Robbie 11-01-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 17661211)
Would you do herion or crack just because it became legal?

I know I wouldn't.

Hell, any of us can find it NOW. Drug laws don't stop anybody from doing what they want to do. They just make people into criminals. If a person wants to do heroin or crack (totally and completely opposite ends of the spectrum by the way...DOWN and UP) they can do it right now anyway.

Making it legal would simply lower the prices and stop 99% of the crime and violence involved in "illegal drugs". Just like prohibition brought on the mafia and organized crime and violence...when it was stopped, all the violence and crime from bootlegging booze ended. Same with drugs.

People who don't want to drink alcohol didn't suddenly start drinking when it became legal again. And people who did want to drink alcohol never stopped when it was illegal.

donkevlar 11-01-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17661233)
I know I wouldn't.

Hell, any of us can find it NOW. Drug laws don't stop anybody from doing what they want to do. They just make people into criminals. If a person wants to do heroin or crack (totally and completely opposite ends of the spectrum by the way...DOWN and UP) they can do it right now anyway.

Making it legal would simply lower the prices and stop 99% of the crime and violence involved in "illegal drugs". Just like prohibition brought on the mafia and organized crime and violence...when it was stopped, all the violence and crime from bootlegging booze ended. Same with drugs.

People who don't want to drink alcohol didn't suddenly start drinking when it became legal again. And people who did want to drink alcohol never stopped when it was illegal.

Exactly... they didn't learn their lesson when they created the Mafia.

GAMEFINEST 11-01-2010 05:30 PM

sam adams for life

alias 11-01-2010 06:17 PM

Old lady crack party bingo community activism sessions are the future.

emill 11-01-2010 07:33 PM

http://publish.uwo.ca/~dflatt/everclear.jpg

Strongest alcohol drink for real man :) 95 % alcohol

ThunderBalls 11-01-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 17657887)
I was a heroin addict for 8 years...it's the lifestyle that's harmful, not so much the drug.


Thats true. Out of all the drugs out there heroin causes the least amount of damage to the body, unless of course you overdose.

pornmasta 11-01-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 17661687)
Thats true. Out of all the drugs out there heroin causes the least amount of damage to the body, unless of course you overdose.

+ dirty needles...

ottopottomouse 11-02-2010 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by emill (Post 17661560)
http://publish.uwo.ca/~dflatt/everclear.jpg

Strongest alcohol drink for real man :) 95 % alcohol

That stuff looks fucking dangerous.

Could probably run my car on it :Oh crap

Barefootsies 11-02-2010 05:01 AM

Fiddy crackheads on patrol.
:pimp

Cyber Fucker 11-02-2010 05:02 AM

I would say that alcohol and tobacco are two the most harmful drugs ever and what's the most funny here? Both don't bring any positive effects for health although both are 100% legal and widely available everywhere. Well, I don't say that one cup of red wine from time to time is bad but most ppl drink much more than one cup at once and here starts a major problem. And about the tobacco, I don't know what's good about it... I think it's pure evil.

NetHorse 11-02-2010 05:15 AM

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The World Health Organisation estimates that risks linked to alcohol cause 2.5 million deaths a year from heart and liver disease, road accidents, suicides and cancer -- accounting for 3.8 percent of all deaths.
What a bunch of idiots. No shit more deaths are caused from alcohol, it is a much more widespread abused drug.

If heroin were legal, the amount of deaths from heroin would be much higher.

This ridiculous study reminds me of another one I recently read..

http://www.time.com/time/health/arti...014332,00.html

"Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers"

From all these studies, only one thing is certain, people in general are morons. Some will preach how one drug is worse than the other, then sit on their fatass all day, eat fast food, never workout a day in their life and die @ 45 of a heart attack. :1orglaugh

PAR 11-02-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by emill (Post 17661560)
http://publish.uwo.ca/~dflatt/everclear.jpg

Strongest alcohol drink for real man :) 95 % alcohol

3 or 4 shots of that in a pitcher of juice is all it take for most people. Picked up a bottle once in SC.

As for the study, anyone can warp data to make their point valid. To me a greater issue is that drinking is legal so you can draw a line back to it as a cause.

We are all adults an know drinking can cloud your judgment and can be harmful if you over do it.

But just for stupid fun: *yes I know these are ridiculous*

Lets assume someone does 2 studies

1 - Cars lead to crime - then they base it on the number of crimes that are committed using cars or involving people that drive them. Including speeding and all traffic violations. Would you stop driving or alter your habits due to this study? No.. because you know someone just played with numbers to make a point.

2 - Computers/internet use leads to crime - they then base the numbers on the number of people with computers and internet access that at some point commit a crime. And then compare then numbers to people that have never owned a computer or committed a crime. Would you trash your laptop and become Amish.

Again NO... because you again know it to be a false assumption.

Given any amount of stats and studies to base an opinion on people can prove or show cause for just about anything, This is basically what we were told in university on our first day of Business Statistics.

anexsia 11-02-2010 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by amateurbfs (Post 17658221)
Exactly. Anyone who knows a heroin addict knows that the above statement is foolish. The things a junky will do to get money on a daily basis is totally destructive to everything around them.

I never overdosed in all of my years of using or have any significant health problems from daily IV heroin use. Heroin users that have health problems come from either using dirty needles, sharing needles, not being smart about the amount they are injecting, not taking care of their body during their addiction, etc. Heroin itself does not cause much damage to your body at all and especially when compared to alcohol. You can buy a pack of 10 needles at Wal-Mart for $2 so in my opinion there is no excuse to not use a fresh syringe every time.

The harm caused was because of my addiction...I lived with my girlfriend who was also a junkie and we both were so mentally unstable from addiction it wasn't even funny. Thankfully, that is all in the past for me...just wish I could say the same for my exgirlfriend. I tried everything I could to help her overcome her addiction as well, but she's just not ready to quit yet.

I would say the main problem with heroin addiction is once your get past using and have distanced yourself from it...you still have to battle to stay away from it every day of your life. I would do anything in the world to take back the day I first tried opiates.

Robbie 11-02-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PAR (Post 17663033)
We are all adults an know drinking can cloud your judgment and can be harmful if you over do it.

Exactly. And the same can be said for recreational drugs. We are ADULTS. We don't need the govt. to tell us we can't do what we want with our own bodies. If they were so worried about it they would ban cigarettes immediately.

They can't and they won't because tobacco helped build this country. Yet we arrogantly go to other countries and tell them they can't grow coca plants or opium...even though their countries are centuries older than ours and were built on those crops.

I hate the fucking govt.

emill 11-02-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17662425)
That stuff looks fucking dangerous.

Could probably run my car on it :Oh crap

yes i think so great alternative for petrol, drink from hell directly


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