As I said he corrected his words - was it political? Sure it was but was it any worse then being called Hitler, commie, tratior, etc No way Jose.

Ron, Wealth redistribution has been going on for decades - was FDR exteme left? was Nixon, Reagan, etc??

Clinton was never a leftist in the whitehouse - shit he was a moderate anyways... He wanted universal care just as every president did since Truman...

President Obama is a great person, thinker, etc - his main problem is 2 things.

1. He came into office in the worst economy since 1929

2. He is good at giving speaches and all but he isn't Clinton when it comes to talking with the "common person"

Whether he wins or loses in 2012 - ppl will look back in decades to come and wonder what this big fight was about on health care. They will laugh and say of course everyone should have health care.... :)

It WAS car - FOX changed it to BUS because they lie at all times, and the morons on this board that watch that crap are brainwashed douche bags.

i feel obama's 2 main problems are:

1. he's an idealist.
2. he sticks to his pre-determined agenda, regardless.
3. he's caught up in the politics of them v us

Is it time for Orange Jesus?

God you're a fucking retard. There is/was no "socialist experiment". Wasting money? YOU'RE a waste of oxygen. Fuck off now. FACT most of our debt has been rung up by Reagan and both Bushes.

well that's the left's view and you're welcome to it, revisionist history and all. however, its a minority view as we'll see by days end.

awwww, does this bitterness mean you've been fired from yet another job or that your 1yr of unemployment checks is just about up?
:1orglaugh

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs and the economy is what will place the democrats in the minority tonight in the house..

I know the ass kicking is coming - not much more too say Ron...

I do hope in the next 2 years our elected leaders can work together...

It will be very interesting to see if the Republicans can clear up the mess left by the Governments for the last 30 years.

The US like so many Western countries have lived beyond their means for decades. Blaming one President or one administration is stupid. The system of importing more than you export is a disaster waiting to happen. The banking crisis showed up the flaws.

It'll be interesting to see if Republicans clean up a mess? Damn right it would be interesting to see that. But lets not hold our breath too long.

They've already proclaimed proudly that their number one prioity is to block Obama from being elected to a second term.

So strap in and strap on for 2 years of utterly nothing happening but more vilification and kissing the hairy thankless ass of big money.

Happy to be proven wrong.. ready set go. See ya in 2 yrs.

Huh? You firs say that Obama, the president, has increased the debt.

Then you say only Congress can increase debts, not the President.

Strange logic there.

You're calling him a retard? Obama isn't on the ballot, no president is on the ballot, the senate and the house are on the ballot, or are you too fucking stupid to understand that?

Fact, right now there is a federal budget deficit of 1.3 trillion dollars
Do the math troll

Where does putting the Nations economy come on the list?

Probably under filling their pockets and those of their backers. Did I hear right that the Republican going after the Governors job in California spent $15 million on her campaign? Or was it only $12 million? :Oh crap

Now who is stupid enough to think she spent that to improve the State before she got her cut?

Any electoral system that allows that kind of expenditure on a campaign is at risk of electing corrupt leaders on the level of some African nations.

umm, that's $150+ million on the republican cali gov campaign

I'll be happy if the REpublicans take the House or both, but I will definitely criticize them if they don't do anything with their power. Too many moronic biased republicans/democrats. You'll hardly meet someone who tries to be objective. I think more will be done when we have different parties pulling strings than one party doing it.

Dear idiot, asked and answered page one.

WTF?????

I thought I heard $15 million on the news and that made me wake up and think something is very very wrong. $150 million is positively crazy.

Who thinks she will end up out of pocket if she wins?

If she loses it will be a good lesson learned. Anywhere else in the world the voters would reject that kind of spending right away. It stinks of corruption. IMO.

She can afford it, she's a billionaire

Unions spent a shit load on her opponent

I think she's going to lose by 15 points. 150million of eBay money... poof.

You're either biased, or completely missed Obama's campaign.

it was/is mostly her own money. if she sincerely wanted to help cali, she would of spent that more wisely, imo.

what was the final tally for that? like $700 million or something??

Yea, more I think.. The spending was ridiculous. Nobody needs to bitch about anyone else spending for a campaign unless they want to look like a moron.

the fact that she got as far as she did as a republican in a state thats 13 to 1 in democrats, well she did pretty good

She is not concerned about spending $150 million...she is worth more than a billion. It appears that she is not going to win.

i'm surprised that's the ratio, pretty conservative here in so cal eh.

I look forward to the new excuse once the right wins it all and nothing changes.see no one here has real money, a few pretenders but no real money. Because real money is having a really good yr this yr. Goldman sachs is giving the biggest bonuses in their history. Corporation are holding trillions in reserves of cash. It's not right or left it's the rich found a cheaper worker bee. No amount of political bs will change that.

what i really do not understand about the cali gov race: jerry brown was the best the dems could come up with? really? no, really? i mean REALLY??

We can't possibly make as many excuses as the left has the past 2 years. If the Republicans don't do anything, they will be criticized. Those who don't are biased.

Actually he was a very good governor

not saying you are wrong but that's pretty debatable eh. + a long long time ago, under much different circumstances.

isn't that why all his campaign commercials include the "at this stage in my life.." line?

i guess my original point is: so the best candidate the dems could come up with is a career politician that many believe raised taxes exorbitantly and is in bed with the unions?

same with repubs and fiorina btw, the best they could come up with is one of the worst CEOs in the history of corporate america?

My point is not just her spending money, it;s the entire system where the spending is so out of control. What ever side it is people spend that kind of money to line their own pockets first.

I would say most politicians today are in it for themselves, the recent expenses scandal in the UK showed many up on both sides of the house. But when someone has to recoup the kind of money being spent in the US it leads to even more corruption. Democrats, Republicans or Tea Party. It will be interesting watching how many Tea Party leaning politicians gain power and cut spending in their own areas.

I love these disingenuous comments, reminds me of Fox News. Yes, unions spent money for her opponent but it doesn't come close to $150,000,000. She tried to buy the election and it looks like she has failed.

It wasn't out of his pocket you dolt, he raised that money in epic fashion.

Dont forget that union money is actually from the members of the union. Not some rich fuck trying to influence society to benefit himself.

So I made your argument look like shit and your only response was that it wasn't his money? You DO realize that you moronic liberals are bitching about money for a campaign, not about where it came from, right? I love the backtracking from the imbeciles.:1orglaugh

That's like saying business money is from consumers that actually contribute to the business so that they can influence politics more.

Yeh, union members pay dues, they have very little control over where that money goes. If they knew where some of their union leaders were spending that money they might not be so happy paying their dues.

Damn you must be one of those angry voters that the tea bag party keeps talking about. But regardless of your "answer", your logic still fails.

in other news, Palin is one step closer to running for president in 2012