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Tom_PM 11-02-2010 10:42 AM

The point being that using ones personal wealth is not equal to using contributions from potentially millions of people who know part of their dues is for campaigning. This is not really something that should be rising to the stage of gridlock We all know these obvious things.

stocktrader23 11-02-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17663589)
The point being that using ones personal wealth is not equal to using contributions from potentially millions of people who know part of their dues is for campaigning. This is not really something that should be rising to the stage of gridlock We all know these obvious things.

Shame you have to explain that to the morons.

Bryan G 11-02-2010 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17663581)
in other news, Palin is one step closer to running for president in 2012

Don't worry she'll fix everything!!!

The Demon 11-02-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17663605)
Shame you have to explain that to the morons.

Shame you represent the typical liberal and are too stupid to use common sense.:1orglaugh

cwd 11-02-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17663581)
in other news, Palin is one step closer to running for president in 2012

Palin/Beck 2012

Palin/O'Donnell 2012

Palin/Angle 2012

Palin/Miller 2012

its so exciting to speculate!

12clicks 11-02-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17663571)
Damn you must be one of those angry voters that the tea bag party keeps talking about. But regardless of your "answer", your logic still fails.

my logic always fails amongst the rabble.

enjoy your short foray into our business. with your limited intelligence. you're not likely to be here long.

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 17663571)
Damn you must be one of those angry voters that the tea bag party keeps talking about. But regardless of your "answer", your logic still fails.

works better if you imitate him rather than reason

BestXXXPorn 11-02-2010 11:13 AM

They're all Republicrats to me...

If you want less spending, smaller government, and more freedom... with at least a chance of restoring the federal government's power back to what was intended, you're going to need to vote Libertarian (or Libertarian in Republican guise)...

IMO

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23 (Post 17663502)
I love these disingenuous comments, reminds me of Fox News. Yes, unions spent money for her opponent but it doesn't come close to $150,000,000. She tried to buy the election and it looks like she has failed.

Yes the unions wanted to keep the their retirement of 95% of what they made working at their retirement age of 55, so they spent all they could, without the union workers permission.
Givin that California is 13 to 1 democrat, I think your math is as fucked up as you are, if she even gets close, it says something


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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 17663421)
Actually he was a very good governor

I wouldn't call him very good, adequate at best

Quentin 11-02-2010 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17663708)
my logic always fails amongst the rabble.

enjoy your short foray into our business. with your limited intelligence. you're not likely to be here long.

Success in this business is linked to intelligence?

News to me.

dyna mo 11-02-2010 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17663782)
Success in this business is linked to intelligence?

News to me.

party pooper.

SpongeBub 11-02-2010 11:27 AM

It is beyond my comprehension how an average middle-class American can think that voting Republican is going to help them. The Repblicans only help the rich and that is all they ever will help. They will screw the middle-class at the expense of their rich whoremasters, like they always have, and yet my fellow Americans cannot seem to see that. What is wrong with them - I'd sooner cut my dick off than vote Republican.

And I'm no liberal by a long shot - it's just that the Republicans give lip service to smaller government and fiscal responsibility and yet, they have never implemented a bit of that and they never will. They will only continue to fuck over America, sending jobs overseas and rewarding the companies that do it. All the time screaming that lower taxes will solve it all and other myths. Wake up, people, these are bad human beings. That orange fuck Boner will be the new speaker - he'll make Pelosi look like an angel.

cykoe6 11-02-2010 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662649)
Will today spell the end of the socialist experiment? and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.:thumbsup

I sure hope so. :thumbsup

Vendzilla 11-02-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 17663589)
The point being that using ones personal wealth is not equal to using contributions from potentially millions of people who know part of their dues is for campaigning. This is not really something that should be rising to the stage of gridlock We all know these obvious things.

You've never been in a union have you?
To get the work, you have to join, they spend the money without your consent. The union members are starting to get pissed

12clicks 11-02-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 17663857)
It is beyond my comprehension how an average middle-class American can think that voting Republican is going to help them. The Repblicans only help the rich and that is all they ever will help. They will screw the middle-class at the expense of their rich whoremasters, like they always have, and yet my fellow Americans cannot seem to see that. What is wrong with them - I'd sooner cut my dick off than vote Republican.

and here is the country's problem in a nutshell.
this moron isn't even bright enough to realize that the rich provide the life he currently leads. thats right son, PROVIDE. without the rich paying for that which YOU can't pay for but still expect, you would be living in the street.
we truly have an uneducated voting populous as is evidenced in this post.
its just shocking to come to the realization of just how dumb most of america is to believe this evil rich bullshit.

kbauerctu 11-02-2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17662649)
and the end of the liberal trash wasting our children's money and future?
I sure as hell hope so.:thumbsup

Just a question for all the people that complain about health care driving up taxes. What about war...

No one ever brings up the financial cost of these wars we keep fighting. Wouldn't you rather take that money and spend it on improving the lives of Americans everywhere. Rather than going into the military industrial complex's coffers? None of us really even understand fully why we have troops in these countries in the first place, since non of us are privy to classified information.

Is it gold? Oil? Tungsten? Geo political? How do these wars benefit us? the people of the united states?

12Clicks your obviously a fiscal conservative, nothing wrong with that. But, I'm pretty sure the amount of tax payers $$ we spend on war, is far higher than health care.

12clicks 11-02-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kbauerctu (Post 17664320)
Just a question for all the people that complain about health care driving up taxes. What about war...

No one ever brings up the financial cost of these wars we keep fighting. Wouldn't you rather take that money and spend it on improving the lives of Americans everywhere. Rather than going into the military industrial complex's coffers? None of us really even understand fully why we have troops in these countries in the first place, since non of us are privy to classified information.

Is it gold? Oil? Tungsten? Geo political? How do these wars benefit us? the people of the united states?

12Clicks your obviously a fiscal conservative, nothing wrong with that. But, I'm pretty sure the amount of tax payers $$ we spend on war, is far higher than health care.

when in the entire history of mankind has there not been war?
when he's the unprepared, weaker country not lost in war?
sadly, the military is a necessary evil when you have something someone else would like.

cwd 11-02-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17664364)
sadly, the military is a necessary evil when you have something someone else would like.

or when someone else has something you want

nico-t 11-02-2010 02:15 PM

why dont you see the big picture 12clicks? That politics is nothing but i silly game where sheep pick a side and blindly follow them, like you are doing with everything that is republican.

Now from a point of view not brainwashed by the media in the US, how the rest of the world looks at this situation.

Bush: Constant threat of another war, if he would have been longer in office, or if that crazy old guy would have won the elections the US would have made it to Iran, spending all the taxpayers' money and their soldiers' lives in yet another middle eastern desert making the US a definitive 3rd world country.

Obama: Not throwing away money and lives in another war, and even a health care plan which is proven to work for numerous european countries.

I feel that the whole world is way more relaxed now because the weird war mongering retards dont run things anymore. I don't know what you are complaining about. And by the way when you look at your personal earnings and spendings, is it really much of a difference who is running the country?

By the way, a big ass recession that had a huge impact on the world economy is not fixed in 2 years, not with the Federal Reserve ruling & printing money all the time.

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17664720)
By the way, a big ass recession that had a huge impact on the world economy is not fixed in 2 years, not with the Federal Reserve ruling & printing money all the time.

'that's preposterous, idiot'

12clicks 11-02-2010 02:38 PM

Haha.
Oh, to see the world through inexperienced eyes

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 02:43 PM

touche...

The Demon 11-02-2010 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 17664720)
why dont you see the big picture 12clicks? That politics is nothing but i silly game where sheep pick a side and blindly follow them, like you are doing with everything that is republican.

Funny, I don't see you making this same exact comment to the Democrats on here who actually make most of the political threads. It always strikes me as funny to know who the insecure people are and it's those who think everyone else is a sheeple and are allegedly "blindly" picking a side, while they're too smart and they know better...

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Now from a point of view not brainwashed by the media in the US, how the rest of the world looks at this situation.
I wasn't aware you spoke for the rest of the world. Doing something like that takes credibility and credibility is earned when you've proven yourself to be both rational and objective..

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Bush: Constant threat of another war, if he would have been longer in office, or if that crazy old guy would have won the elections the US would have made it to Iran, spending all the taxpayers' money and their soldiers' lives in yet another middle eastern desert making the US a definitive 3rd world country.
Calm down there Miss Cleo.. Your speculations are nothing more than that, stop passing them off as fact.

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Obama: Not throwing away money and lives in another war, and even a health care plan which is proven to work for numerous european countries.
Looks like somebody missed the last two years and now you've proven yourself to be biased. Obama is the epitome of "throwing money away" and just because a system works in one location doesn't make it right in another, especially where there are many factors involved.

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I feel that the whole world is way more relaxed now because the weird war mongering retards dont run things anymore. I don't know what you are complaining about. And by the way when you look at your personal earnings and spendings, is it really much of a difference who is running the country?
The Democrats are as "fear mongering" as the Republicans, if not more. In fact, the term "fear mongering" is a liberal term used to elicit an emotional response in the absence of a logical or factual argument.

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By the way, a big ass recession that had a huge impact on the world economy is not fixed in 2 years, not with the Federal Reserve ruling & printing money all the time.
You do know that stimulus programs (yes, started mostly by Bush and hit a new level with Obama), as well as just throwing cash at the problem doesn't help either, right?

arock10 11-02-2010 02:52 PM

I didn't feel like reading all of this, but the business cycle is to blame for a lot of this stuff... and big business = conservatives = republicans...
so once the republicans are back in power they will have to start making good on all this donor money that has flooded in to them. So once again the will of the people will be dictated by big business.
Sure, it works this way for both parties, we have a flawed system... but republicans do it a lot worse. Plus since they love some religion that means they are more likely to fuck with porn and put all us US based webmasters out of a job

The Demon 11-02-2010 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17664909)
I didn't feel like reading all of this, but the business cycle is to blame for a lot of this stuff... and big business = conservatives = republicans...
so once the republicans are back in power they will have to start making good on all this donor money that has flooded in to them. So once again the will of the people will be dictated by big business.
Sure, it works this way for both parties, we have a flawed system... but republicans do it a lot worse. Plus since they love some religion that means they are more likely to fuck with porn and put all us US based webmasters out of a job

Anyone understand this stupidity and 3rd grade logic?

12clicks 11-02-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17664909)
I didn't feel like reading all of this, but the business cycle is to blame for a lot of this stuff... and big business = conservatives = republicans...
so once the republicans are back in power they will have to start making good on all this donor money that has flooded in to them. So once again the will of the people will be dictated by big business.
Sure, it works this way for both parties, we have a flawed system... but republicans do it a lot worse. Plus since they love some religion that means they are more likely to fuck with porn and put all us US based webmasters out of a job

Are you 10?

_Richard_ 11-02-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17664905)
You do know that stimulus programs (yes, started mostly by Bush and hit a new level with Obama), as well as just throwing cash at the problem doesn't help either, right?

what exactly did bush do?

http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp

interesting overview on who is doing what regarding unemployment in the US

dyna mo 11-02-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17664909)
I didn't feel like reading all of this, but the business cycle is to blame for a lot of this stuff... and big business = conservatives = republicans...
so once the republicans are back in power they will have to start making good on all this donor money that has flooded in to them. So once again the will of the people will be dictated by big business.
Sure, it works this way for both parties, we have a flawed system... but republicans do it a lot worse. Plus since they love some religion that means they are more likely to fuck with porn and put all us US based webmasters out of a job

i want to quote this one too!

czarina 11-02-2010 03:03 PM

why, did Fidel Castro die?

Maxi 11-02-2010 03:37 PM

Yeah, today will be the end of the socialist experiment, and the beginning of a new experiment with the purpose of finding out just how close can a persons intelligence level get to that of an earth worm and still be elected for office in America.

Yep, the likes of Christine O'Donnel (Who want's to ban masturbation) and Sharon Angle really know so much about economics.

This 12dicks fag must be a master troll or the biggest dumb cunt on this forum (I'm betting on the latter) for being a tea bagger & hoping to make money in porn.


arock10 11-02-2010 03:38 PM

Glad you guys like it enough to keep quoting. No one said I was incorrect yet though :) I could write up a nice batch of paragraphs detailing what I was talking about, but you guys are set in your ways. Trying to change someone's political views is pointless, but I figured I'd at least contribute one paragraph.

Its okay, I'm sure republicans will accomplish absolutely nothing and fuck shit up further in the next 2 years making the reelection that much easier.

The Demon 11-02-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17665056)
Yeah, today will be the end of the socialist experiment, and the beginning of a new experiment with the purpose of finding out just how close can a persons intelligence level get to that of an earth worm and still be elected for office in America.

Yep, the likes of Christine O'Donnel (Who want's to ban masturbation) and Sharon Angle really know so much about economics.

This 12dicks fag must be a master troll or the biggest dumb cunt on this forum (I'm betting on the latter) for being a tea bagger & hoping to make money in porn.


The biggest dumb cunt? Way to prove that liberals/Democrats make Republicans look like Einstein.

The Demon 11-02-2010 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17665060)
Glad you guys like it enough to keep quoting. No one said I was incorrect yet though :) I could write up a nice batch of paragraphs detailing what I was talking about, but you guys are set in your ways. Trying to change someone's political views is pointless, but I figured I'd at least contribute one paragraph.

Its okay, I'm sure republicans will accomplish absolutely nothing and fuck shit up further in the next 2 years making the reelection that much easier.

Well, they can't do any worse than the Democrats have the past two years.

Caligari 11-02-2010 03:55 PM

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will today spell the end of the socialist experiment?
not at all, the corporate welfare system will continue per usual.

arock10 11-02-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17665093)
Well, they can't do any worse than the Democrats have the past two years.

I can't wait for all the stimulus spending to end. Its going to be gory

The Demon 11-02-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 17665125)
I can't wait for all the stimulus spending to end. Its going to be gory

You mean you can't imagine for something that is doing nothing but raising our national debt, to end?

MaDalton 11-02-2010 04:08 PM

i'm at a point where i wish that the republicans win everything and Obama steps down so that one of those nutjobs can take over. then finally all this whining would be over and i can start looking for an island or cave where i can watch the world go down in smoke.

The Demon 11-02-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17665151)
i'm at a point where i wish that the republicans win everything and Obama steps down so that one of those nutjobs can take over. then finally all this whining would be over and i can start looking for an island or cave where i can watch the world go down in smoke.

You mean the world hasn't been going down in smoke the past two years where the Democrats controlled everything? Boy are you delusional.

arock10 11-02-2010 04:18 PM

I still think its hilarious how quick we forgot dubya and the rest of the republican shenanigans. Recession started under dubya and he started the spending.... Have you guys ever heard of Japan and how they didn't spend?

MaDalton 11-02-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17665164)
You mean the world hasn't been going down in smoke the past two years where the Democrats controlled everything? Boy are you delusional.

nope, it didn't. cause you're not the world. here unemployement is at a 20 year low and economy is booming. companies like Audi, VW or Siemens voluntarily pay their employees more money and the planned additional debt due to the world economic crisis could be reduced by 30 or 40%. and why? cause the 2 biggest parties at the time of crisis worked together. does it ring a bell?

the US has one big problem: that both big parties rather ruin the country than give the other a chance for success.


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