I hope you didn't RUSH home from the day job to embarrass yourself with this dopey comment
:1orglaugh

I'm confident that not only did you just compare our economic status to Europe's, but that you also aren't aware of how various European economies work, otherwise you wouldn't be making causation/correlation statements like that. Our biggest problem isn't the lack of bipartisanship, it's the FED throwing out money and consumers spending what they don't have. It's been going on for more than 30 years and it's still going on. The politicians are definitely part of the problem but they aren't THE problem.

you're just a stupid kid that comes here to stirr up shit, why should i explain you anything?

but trust me, i have surely more knowledge about the different european economies than you have. I would have mentioned that i'm talking about Germany, but then 12Clicks is pissed off again :1orglaugh

You do realize stopping spending is going to send our country into a deflationary downward spiral like what happened to Japan. Our country runs on spending the multiplier it creates. The obama administration has stepped in and tried to put in place consumer protections to make it harder for predatory companies to keep letting people spend spend spend what they dont have. Like healthcare... too bad republicans tried to ruin that as much as possible so the current bill is half assed as fuck.

Most Americans have higher aspirations than most europeans. We're not looking to be spoon fed :winkwink:

Inorrect. Less government spending has zero effect on deflation and son, with the amount of paper we're printing, we do not have to worry about deflation.
Also, republicans had ZERO to do with the healthcare bill.
You should not type about things you don't understand. It makes you look silly

And you're a moron who never backs up what he says and gets his ass handed to him by this "stupid kid". I'm smarter than you in every way imaginable. If you had common sense, you'd be able to back up your assertions. Instead, you just look like an unknowledgeable dolt who masks his stupidity with an insult and a poor rationalization.
It doesn't look like you know anything more than me other than designing porn galleries, and you've proven as such. Quit typing already.

Ah ok I understand, so you don't know any of the conditions that prompted Japan to go into a 20 year deflationary recession. The only people who believe our country's economic depends on spending are the moronic Keynesians that have been destroying this country for a better part of 30 years. And predatory companies? You DO realize that only the FED can keep people from spending what they don't have by raising interest rates? Good god, most of you porn pushers should just stick to pushing porn because you know nothing else.

i would really like to invite you for a little round trip one day - might be very eye opening :winkwink:

The more than two hundred admendments to the bill by the Republicans...is not exactly nothing...asswipe.

yaaawwwwwnnnnnn....

i have handed trolls their asses on the internet before you were potty trained. but you're not worth my time - have a fun night :winkwink:

Less spending causes less demand which causes prices to fall. Deflation.

There is barely any inflation right now even with us printing plenty of money. So if we stop the spending, stop the printing that would leave us with.... yes, you guessed it, deflation.

Someone already covered the response to the heathcare bill, but really, Republicans had 0 to do with the healthcare bill? Nothing at all? No impact?

Did it go something along the lines of "I'm a moron but I don't want people to know so I'll call you a troll and graciously step down before I embarrass myself further"? Like I said, making middle aged men look stupid is just too damn easy.:1orglaugh

What the hell? There are many factors that are involved in this. There's domestic demand and there's international demand. If domestic demand falls, international depend actually picks up because the dollar is shit now. Demand Side economics is stupid.

As opposed to hyperinflation in a few years followed by economic collapse? And we won't get deflation, we will get stagnation/disinflation. Deflation occurs when the interest rates are negative.

In fact he said car .....

Fox News went for bus .. Even one asshole explained car-bus ..

On the other hand , what did Steele say about where Nancy Pelosi could ride ... Try to guess.. it is easy ..

Yes! I can't wait to watch the US dropping LOADS of money into invading countries like Iran, and a space missile defense shield.

It's just such a pity the democrats decided to put that money into healthcare for its own citizens. :( I want my missile defense system in space!

As for the "socialist" project everyone complains about, no, no, no... it's just the US is about 2 decades behind the times compared to most other Western nations. When the Republicans win, the US will just go back to doing the same shit they did before. As I'm sure you know, the definition of stupidity is constantly doing the same thing, and hoping for a different result.

At least the Dems were pushing boundaries, and setting new limits. That's much better than the typical diatribe you hear from the Republicans, which has been EXACTLY the same for the past many decades. How do you possibly think they're going to make anything better?

car, bus, train, airplane, moped, wagon, it really does not matter. it's bipartisan bullshit and obama has pitched himself to be up above it when in reality he's down in it.

Deflation = a fall in the general price level and/or a contraction of credit and available money. :2 cents:

Prices of many asset classes collapsed (stocks, commodities, real estate).

Credit and available money contracted.

Government intervention, right, wrong or indifferent, followed.

Whether the risk of further deflation has been thwarted remains to be seen, as does the prospects for hyperinflation.

considering what the republican amendments were, it is exactly nothing.
now off to bed, pathfinder.
idiot old impersonators interest no one.

ok, ok, another kid who needs it dumbed down.
If the government spends less, who do you think gets to spend more?
get it yet?

I'll bet not.

It always strikes me as hilarious when a stupid liberal claims the US is behind everyone else by 20 years (nevermind that we still have the biggest economy in the world), and his only proof for that is....Healthcare? ROFL

Oh yea that's what we need, the Democrats pushing the boundaries and spending money on astronomical levels.

Actually, the quote is....

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. "

-Benjamin Franklin

:2 cents:

Ummm... two problems with that. One, have you seen the US deficit lately, compared to other countries? That, and have you looked at the HRI (Human Resource Index) lately? Many (most?) of those "socialist" countries are living a better standard of life than US citizens, and yet, they're not mired in debt. Not to mention, their future looks quite a bit more stable than the US.

And isn't it people on this board that are always saying "adapt or die"? So you believe going to back policies from the 1960s (which is what the Republicans still run on), will help the US, or something? World has changed, it's now globalized, so like you guys love to say, adapt or die.

Then Republicans love to criticize Muslims for living in the stone age, then turn around and elect idiots into power who promote 60 year old policies, which are no longer valid in the modern world. Quite stupid, to be honest.

It's always entertaining when 12clicks posts. Old school. Don't get why everyone falls for it and plays along.

Name me another country with our population before you start comparing apples and oranges What's that? China? Oh you mean the country with an amazing economy and no middle class? I'm still waiting for the proof that we're behind everyone by 20 years.

Because those policies were sound economic policies that would be applicable today if it weren't for moronic politicians and FED chairmen.[quote]

This is a stupid argument when you take into account that your only proof is healthcare. And your bias and double standards are hilarious.

I honestly believe the Dems did excellent, and did right by the middle class. When the economy of a 350+ million person country, which is the military and economy leader in the world collapses, you can't possibly expect to be living in a prosperous economy again within 2 years. I know Americans love their immediate gratification, but realistically, it's impossible.

I honestly believe the Dems laid the needed ground work to make your countries' economy prosperous again. It'll probably take another 2 - 5 years before we see the full affects of various legislation passed last year. I think they did good.

Republicans seem to under this delusion that if you give the rich tax breaks, they'll invest in your country, and create jobs. That's now what makes a successful economy though. What does is allowing the struggling, middle class guy to save up enough money, to put his own ideas and innovation into place, and start his own business. That's what creates a thriving economy, and not the other way around. Not help the rich, so they'll throw some scraps to the middle class.

If you believe all that, then you seriously need help, no offense.

What are you talking about? The Chinese middle class is ballooning, and has been for many years. Whereas the US middle class has been shrinking.

No, they wouldn't be applicable today, and don't be so naive. Whatever, elect whoever you want, and reap what you sow.

I'm glad you have proof of this. Oh wait, the "proof" would contradict your assertion. China has very few rich people and the majority of them are poor. The inequality disparity is enormous.



Oh great, I'm glad you can back up this assertion... Oh wait, yet another baseless opinion.

ahhhh, another idiot who's bought into the class warfare bullshit of the left.

son, the rich already pay your way. if you weren't such an idiot, you too, could be rich. however, when you, the unable, get a tax break, the people paying your way should get one too.
so enough with you're "evil rich" bullshit.

dope.

No, dude. The underlying issues PREEXISTED the USA and it will OUTLIVE the USA. The only thing that changes is the iteration. Love her or hate her, Ayn Rand was on to something. This election is just an iteration of the primordial struggle over the human concept of SELF and OTHER.

China has a big problem with its single families.. Spoiled kids don't want kids, and if we have population issues, the chinese really do

maybe at the 30,000 foot level. maybe. but real world application of her philospophy has proven catastrophic

http://www.alangreenspan.org/images/...n_Ayn_Rand.jpg

"Will today spell the end of the socialist experiment?"

Evidently and Good Goddamned Deal!

The Oabamination people hoped for change and now they've got it!

Right up their asses!

Old Chinese proverb:

"Be careful what you wish for.

You may get it!"

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...nt;cbsCarousel

"The Republican gambit seems to have paid off.

For 18 months they were lockstep in opposition to President Obama's policies. That energized their base -- the some 46 percent of the country who voted for Sen. John McCain -- and convinced the independent swing voters who went for Mr. Obama that it's worth questioning what the president was pushing.

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By opposing everything, they made the Democrats fight among themselves for cap-and-trade energy legislation and health care reform, drawn out battles that soured the mood of the country.

With all House Republicans standing firm against the stimulus and other Obama economic policies, they raised the bar for success, forcing the administration to be able to show the policies worked. They were accused of betting against the economy, but they were really betting against the Democrats' ability to fix the economy.

Their opposition also struck the heart of the Obama administration's plans for hope, change and optimism. By opposing everything, the Republicans created a divisiveness that permeated the American psyche and caused more negative feelings about the state of the economy and the future of the country.

Obama needed help for the vision of a post-partisan America where pragmatism beats partisanship, but no such help was given. The Republican Party sat on the side as the Democrats fought themselves to pass the major legislation they promised, a process that left many Americans disillusioned with the very process.

As they take control of the House back, their strategy has paid off. But it could quickly become a case of "be careful what you wish for." Just as the Democrats have struggled with the onus of governing in a deep economic recession, the Republican takeover does not come at a time of hope and glory. Most Americans distrust government and disapprove of Congress in greater numbers than they disapprove of Mr. Obama.

Exit polls show that 88 percent of Americans who voted think the economy is in bad shape and 86 percent are worried about the direction the economy takes next year.

The newly elected Republicans will have to take ownership of turning around the economy. If they don't deliver what the American people really want -- results -- they could very much find themselves on the losing side in 2012.

Robert Hendin
Robert Hendin is a CBS News senior political producer. You can read more of his posts"

Exactly. This is exactly why you should NOT vote Republican. They've proven time and time again that they only care about their power in the House / Senate, and don't give a shit about the American people. Why you would ever vote them into power, is beyond me.

Instead of doing what's best for the country, they've done everything to circumvent it, even if that meant going against their own polices from just a few years ago. Then you're going to vote these selfish idiots into power, who are going to give tax breaks to those making $100+ million a year, and for some unknown reason, think it's going to better your life.

The mind boggles...

If you're insinuating the Democrats are any different, then you have an 8 year old's understanding of the political parties in this country, or are just ridiculously naive.

Ah yes, selfish idiots. Those would be the morons that have spent an astronomical amount of money for no reason and no benefit, who put in a health care bill they didn't bother to read... Once again, great argument. Are you 12?

and the 10yr old's mother continues to let him type.

Another illiterate fucking nitwit who doesn't understand what socialism is. For the love of god read a fucking book.