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@Tjeezers - If AwEmpire isn't scamming everybody and supporting illegal tube sites [why do they care, you can't pirate LIVE shows... you can record them and pirate them, but it's not the same effect].. where is wildwildwest's and my payments. I'm starting to think this is wide spread and now only coming to light because people are hoping to still get paid.... I, myself have been warning AwEmpire rep's I'll go to the boards if I am not paid. They keep promising payment and their time lapses and they promise it again..... FOR TWO MONTHS.
I ask if you are not having an issue yourself please don't try to distract people from the issue at hand. Thanks :) |
This thread is very interesting.
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but from what I read, you and a few others have not learned how to read between the lines. |
@Tjeezers - I'm a victim of AWEmpire myself as well and this isn't a case of "mob mentality". I do not need to "read between the lines." This is my last response to you, as it's obvious you're just trying to stir up problems.
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Its not very hard for awe not to notice 30 users coming from the same webmaster in a short period of time with the same spending patters The way you worded your letter to Mickey shows that you tried to game the system so :321GFY |
stir up problems?
I think you are wrong. I am a well experienced AWE webmaster with positive and some negative ideas on how it works. But still, i am there for 6 years now i believe. Problems like this have never happened until the $222 promo started. So when it is regarding this, you should know for sure that every sort of creative way of promoting is a risky one when other party, in this case LJ, is not aware of this. The whole motivation of this post is more then clear to me, but the post itself is not really mirroring the entire situation, thats all I say. OP used a few creative things to make his members spend $99 packages, and OP was aware he would cash $222 on this. OP tells he is informing AWE he is making them a perfect business, uses a few smoke cloud marketing lines, and tries to tell AWE that he almost knows for sure that these $222 members will continue spending cause they are all member of his escort site and he introduces now his LJ Cams there. Now, i dont stire up shit when i say PPS programs cant remain alive paying out huge payouts and having a inactive member after 4 weeks. It is a fact that whale campaigns like this stir up shit, it separates the rush player from the life time revenue player. |
<Wonders if this could be the next Dirty D style thread>
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Just so everybody knows I inserted their ready-made flash banners on my blog sidebars and did a post or two about them with a screen capture as the post graphic including an honest review. That's the extent of the creativeness of my promotion.
I still have not been paid. |
if that's true and the single webmaster gets ripped off of 11k - how many do they scam in total? Millions per year?
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after reading this thread, i'm pulling links now
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Like you say, it sounds like the OP could have been a bit creative with "milking the system". It makes sense that not all $222 sales were counted, because AWE does not count "every" signup, even though their promos said otherwise. Remember when this "flaw" was pointed out back in June? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=972750 http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=951993&page=8 After this attempt of cheating webmasters was exposed, AWE did improve their wording a little on their future promos. Kudos for that... Good luck having your issue(s) solved. :) |
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I am pulling links now as well.
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the old cookie trick, shitloads is made with that :)
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can fatfoo save them?
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AWempire are also thieves.
They stole the whale image for their banner from my friend and edited out his copyright: http://www.francoisgohier.com/galler...0macrocephalus |
early morning drama for me
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Sounds like the OP is offering "compensated traffic"
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LJ are all over the place and hard to avoid. |
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- In this thread if you do the math this person appears to have 1:60,000 ratios with them. Unless he means 2k impressions per day? http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=997807 - I've read a post from an old rep which basically advanced the idea that affiliates don't deserve rebills anyway, especially not ones who pulled links long ago. Yes, it was in the time of the 14 day cookie. It gave me the impression that there was a culture of disrespect towards affiliates within the company. - When using their promo materials every X pageviews bring up an advertisement with some lady on it saying "Aren't you the lucky one". My affiliate link is nowhere to be found when this occurs. This isn't a special custom tool either. It's a regular iframe. The problem is well documented elsewhere. They seem to claim it is a technical issue but that seems very convenient to me. This problem is many years old. http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=11179 - http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=594765 The old 14 day cookie was REALLY. BAD. Especially combined with calling it "revshare" and basically playing off the ignorance of webmasters who will assume revshare means the industry standard -- "revshare for life". - This incident. There are multiple issues but one thing is clear. Unless the OP is flat out lying or a total moron then there is something with either the way that program is setup or the tracking which means affiliates may not be getting all the sales they think they are getting. I see potential technical issues to explain that lack of credit to him, but that still does not nullify the end effect itself which is not what I want to see. I get that they are a big GFY advertiser but I call it as I see it. I've made up my mind anyway. |
@signupdamnit - Culture of disrespect at AWE? I noticed that too, they have tried to intimate that this is all my fault. Especially with the Wire "error". They sent me a PDF file of the "wire confirmation" and they didn't include most of the information they asked for inside their console, including my receiving bank name and address in the "Beneficiary" field. They said they sent the wire with "the information THAT I GAVE THEM in the console" or something to that effect, but their "confirmation" PDF shows they didn't! They usually take 24-48 hours to reply to any email I send, even though it's usually daylight working hours in Hungary when I send them. They are stalling and hoping I'll go away... that's all they're doing.
Overall I feel really "brushed off" by their support. Honestly, it makes me feel more bad then upset. AWE: IF I DON'T GET PAID WILL NEVER FORGET nor will I let anybody else forget. |
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this can maybe go in both direction depends of how much the starter leaves out in story
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A wire was promised this week from AWE-Brad FIVE DAYS AGO and still has not arrived as of 5:35 am PST 11-18-2010.
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Neil,
In regards to your accusations: #1 - "20 Sales were never credited to me" So far you have only provided me with two exact sales for analysis, both of which were credited to another affiliate as the customers, at the time of purchase, had the cookies (or other tracking identifier) of those other two accounts. One of them was a media buy account, the other, a regular AWE affiliate. Feel free to contact me privately and I will share the id of the affiliate the sales were credited to. I will not, however, share any additional personal information about our affiliates. In regards to your due diligence, as I pointed out to you on our board, you were asking your members an irrelevant question: Quote:
#2 - "30 sales were misteriously deemed "fraudulent" six weeks later..." As stated in my reply to you on our board (and the same reply was sent to you from our support staff as well), thorough risk and fraud analysis flagged the sales you mention as fraudulent. Commissions for these fraudulent sales were deducted and you have been paid for all legitimate sales referred. Details of how sales are flagged as fraudulent cannot be given out for obvious reasons (to retain the effectiveness of our risk management processes) As you can imagine, we, like any other company, are not be amused by an attempt to be blackmailed, unfortunately, 'cutting a deal with us in order to keep this private' is not an option. In reference to the 'wise crack'. The wise crack in question was not "my wise crack and only response", it was something you posted on our forum Quote:
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If you have any additional questions, feel free to contact me or one of our staff members. |
great response by awe. i think we can safely wrap up this fiasco and move on.
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Did that seem a little dry and vague to anybody else? Especially since he conveniently didn't mention all the MISSED, STALLED, and LATE PAYMENT complaints!
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@Agent 488 - Wrap it up? HELL THE FUCK No.... WHERE IS MY AND OTHERS PAYMENTS?
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In defense of AWE, I recently contacted them and told them I was going to stop promoting them. I had an $82 balance, not yet to meet the payout thresh hold of $100.
I created a ticket and asked to be paid out what was owed, and they said no problem. Since, the check has been delivered, cashed, cleared and spent. So no ill will towards them in my book :2 cents: |
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Hi!
If you dont was credited with sales this may be an issue regarding the cookie. The awempire.com revshare set a cookie with a lifetime of 14 days. If you want to keep your members lifetime you have to turn on Lifetime revshare option from your account. To be honesti promote awempire starting with 2006, never spoken with my members but i'm happy with my sales there. Regarding Chargebacks, you can see its in your stats also after 6 months from the time when the sale was made. Its exist and are a problem for all credit card procesors. You can block the poor countries and you will not see so many CBs. |
They fucked up my VERY FIRST PAYMENT from them, and my buddies Second Payment... HE did receive his first payment but not any subsequent payment(s).
That's not my only issue with them. They could have fixed that easy by not INSULTING us by telling us there was a major problem with US webmaster bound checks then telling us they're not going to pay us until we submit another "ticket" and authorize a $35 check cancellation fee. I can understand if the problem was say... the check was stolen from an insecure mailbox but it was not! It was "lost" on THEIR END. Like I previously said, NOT A SINGLE CHECK of mine has been lost by the United States Postal Service. Additionally, they're acting like it's not a real high priority of theirs to make this right. $291 or $20,000 ... a missed payment then taking MONTHS to fix it is a fucked up thing to do to an affiliate, especially in this economy. Last year I would of brushed this off and stopped promoting them but I really needed that payment, as I had planned my finances on receiving the first check, I was sure I would receive it because they SEEMED like a reputable company. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Why would anybody keep promoting them if they can't even pay out $291 via a check properly? The guy who have said "lets move on" was WAYYYYY to quick to come on and say that. The OP's problem is not the only problem affiliates are having with AWEmpire Rep's and company as a whole: THEY ARE MISSING PAYMENTS AND NOT ACTING QUICK ENOUGH TO FIX IT! ... IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS FOR ME....... |
"micky" - where is my wire? Is my money in motion?
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