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wheres fatfoo for his official comment
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@Bryan G - Guess they must not of paid him either
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guess that`s it. no further reply from either party.
so, how is the weather where you are? cold here. |
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AWE is run by a bunch of dodgey russians, who have pop ups running on every illegal tube site on the net. Now its the #1 webcam site - Why? Becuase its being popped so much. And my point here is - Nearly every mother fucker in town is being cookied by them - so your chances of making sales drop - unless you got MASS traffic. Basicly if you run some small webcam site only promoting AWE - you only make a sale if that surfer HAS NOT been to a tube site in the last month. I know becuase i sent AWE 20k + hits of webcam traffic and couldnt even make 1 sale. So thats the kinda company your dealing with their. |
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You really have all the bases covered. You have your neat little system set up in such a way that your AFFILIATE VICTIMS have no recourse and basically have to take your word for things. You won't say which webmaster got credit so there's no way to verify this with the customer. How convenient? I think the reason for this "veil of secrecy" is because AWE is usually the webmaster getting credit for these sales. WHY DO YOU ASK WEBMASTERS TO DO A TEST? You have it set up so you can't fail because you won't provide the information necessary for an affiliate to prove that AWE skims sales. With respect to the UNCREDITED sales you are now saying that all these 20 people were LJ customers in the past. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT. Most of my customers had never heard of LJ much less been a customer. Regarding the "fraudulent" sales, EVERY ONE of the 104 sales I got for LJ were acquired the same way from the same promotional materials on my site. There were ZERO charge-backs (except for one guy who got double billed). Why won't you provide me with a list of names of the 30 "bad apples" so I can do my own "risk analysis"? You have everything set up so conveniently. You claim "secrecy reasons" as you FUCK YOUR AFFILIATES UP THE ASS. You have built a program based on mistrust and back-stabbing. In all fairness, I'm sure that plenty of affiliates don't play by the rules. But judging from the dozens of affiliates that have posted negative comments about AWE on GFY, it sure looks like there are some serious fundamental issues with your program. Enjoy all the money you make. Just know that scamming the very people that help you make that money has given AWE Totally Toxic Karma. This is going to be a very expensive $11K for AWE. As I said in my last email to you: Normally this kind of thing is "just business" ... in this case you have made it very personal. My "crusade" is less than 24 hours old and you've already lost three affiliates. I'm not going away. The site listed in my signature will be a clearinghouse for "all things AWE". All your scams, tricks, techniques, BS policies and lies will be easily searched & sorted. My story will be one of many on the site for all to see. Mickey, do us all a favor: STFU with remarks like this: Quote:
I have emailed, PMed and ICQed you MANY TIMES with no response. The only time you have responded is when I submitted a ticket or posted on your board or GFY. I'm really pissed at myself for not checking into AWE's reputation before I joined up with you. Live & learn |
neverending dramas with AWE...
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Yea dont worry brad, funds are in motion :P
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Why do you think all these big tube sites are popping up live jasmine? Do pop ups all of a sudden convert MAD for tube sites? Alas no. They are popping them becuase if they cookie millions of people, and any of those buy LJ credits - they will get the sale. They steal content, make a huge site and then even steal your sales... aweeesoooommeee!! |
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Here's where "The rubber hits the road" If both of the TEST CASES I provided you say that they had either not been to LJ within the previous 30 days from when they joined ... or ... they had never been to LJ at all, ever. And ... they both state that they had never been members of LJ or a white-label / cobrand. Would you want me to tell them that you are calling them a liar? What PROOF can you offer me that they DID go to LJ or an affiliate? If you don't offer proof then it's your word against theirs .. and the 18 others. What'syour solution to this problem. We all want to hear |
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Weren't there a few guys here that wanted to bring in the lawyers? Whatever happened to that?
If you're a lawyer or want to join me in retaining one, please contact me privately. Does anyone know where AWE's main office is located? |
i heard awe world headquarters has moved to sealand. good luck on serving them there.
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CXA, I just want you to clarify in regards to your members signing up to LJ. What exactly were you offering them if they signed up and then emailed you confirming?
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so.. AWE is OK, i bet this will end soon.. a big program always have big enemies |
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Contrary to your speculation ('trying to stall') lost checks were, in fact, reported by a few of our US affiliates. Unfortunately the check void fees are imposed by the issuing company/bank and the fee has to be passed onto the affiliate. With all due respect, I don't see how your case compares to that of Neil's. Your check was lost, our accounts payable dept. sent a replacement wire transfer, which only made it to your intermediary bank and could not advance to the destination bank due to one missing field (ABA #). You received an official PDF confirmation from our support staff, that stated your commission was indeed sent. Having said all this, do you honestly believe in the crusade you've started going from thread to thread stating AWE doesn't pay, using stall tactics, "Next ePassporte level scandal", submitting fraudulent processing reports to VISA and MC, etc.? Honest question. I understand you're new to AWE and with the recent closing of many affiliate programs, affiliates are more cautious when it comes to payment issues, but AWE did not open its doors yesterday and our staff has always worked hard to ensure AWE partners receive their payment, whether it is WebmasterChecks funds frozen or ePassporte being shut down, our affiliates received their commissions, even though the payments were made using our own reserves not knowing whether we would be able to recover the frozen funds or not. Also, please email us information about the flash promo tool issue you mentioned, as we do not have any flash promo tools that open any popups, our team would like to investigate. Thank you. |
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Only way I'd ever consider promoting AWE is if they did away with their cookie system and just tracked by account. If I send a visitor to a cam site, they sign up and fund an account, I want all the revshare from that account. This is the way most cam sponsors do it. |
still laughing at 'sniff test'
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copy-paste of my reply regarding popunders from another thread:
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http://oi53.tinypic.com/1zoexr9.jpg (or http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zoexr9&s=7 ) Here's another person asking about it on their forum: http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=10151 Supposedly it's an "old bug" You'll notice how it has an action verb telling the surfer to "CLICK CLICK". The "CLICK CLICK" leads to http://www.2.livejasmin.com/allonline.php without your affiliate code. So if this appears on an iframe on your site and a surfer clicks it, then it basically funnels the surfer to their own site without giving you any credit. If it's really just a bug, it was time for them to fix it a long time ago. They need to do so immediately. :2 cents: edit: Here's another person reporting seeing this on a co-branded site: http://board.awempire.com/showthread.php?t=346 Note the date - 2006! |
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Kindly answer a simple question: Where is your main office located? |
free willy.
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I never knew companies in our industry charged a stop / void check fee....
If one of our affiliates doesn't get his or her check - we just stop that check and send another.... Hope you guys get this all worked out. Peace Todd |
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One fitty ............Dramas
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hahaha, get a generator first :) LOL |
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Ditto to this. Doesn't seem right to pass the cost on to the webmaster, especially if more than one check went missing. :2 cents: |
The problem with AWE is that they treat their affiliates as if they are the enemy. They don't give a rats ass if their screw-up causes problems for their affiliates. This is abundantly evident from their policies and practices.
I posted this on the AWE board in the midst of the "check is in the mail ... not" fiasco: I used to work as an Institutional Bond Trader for a Wall Street brokerage firm. This was in the late 1980's. If a payment was ever delayed they would do whatever it took to get us paid ASAP. Replacement checks would be sent from the home office by Express FedEX within 12 hours. Sometimes they would send a Courier if FedEX wasn't an option. They would do this even if the commission amount was a few hundred bucks That my friends is how truly professional companies that derive their income from a sales force treat their people. If a manager ever made his people wait for payment because of a company screw-up, he'd be fired in a heartbeat and would never work on Wall Street again. This isn't Wall Street, that's for sure. I just hope it's not the sewer that runs under the street. As I said in my original post, how AWE handles this will show me how much they think of their money-makers. Will they be AWE-some or will they be AWE-ful. We'll see |
That's how it used to be in Adult as well. I had one major sponsor (of old) "bounce" a check when they changed banks. He wrote me a check from his personal account and sent it via Fed Ex and volunteered to pay any additional fees. He was very apologetic about the whole thing.
Back then being an affiliate was more of a partnership. These days it's often more one way with the sponsor looking for every way they can to possibly screw you over and minimize you. The whole attitude has changed and it shows. 95% of programs by old standards are operating a scam on affiliates. But that's the old standards. It's very different now what is considered acceptable... I'm thinking more and more of flat out refusing to send any traffic to anyone who doesn't live 100% up to my standards on what I see as an ideal affiliate. Perhaps that's better than settling and growing some crook's business for them. :2 cents: It might mean staying out of some areas but so be it. |
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