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-   -   MICKEY @ AWE .. I'm calling you out. You fucked me out of $11,321 and I have PLENTY OF PROOF (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=998027)

kazbalah 12-06-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerbang (Post 17751696)

luv it :)

lazycash 12-07-2010 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kazbalah (Post 17754328)
Is agent 488 a posting bot or what :P

No he's not, he just has a huge network of links that he has the ability to change out on the fly at any given moment and its very important to him to make sure whomever he is promoting is reputable.

CXA 12-07-2010 09:19 PM

This is the THIRD TIME these questions have been posted. Still awaiting an answer

MICKEY: I ask you here and now to answer these two YES or NO questions.

Will you provide me with the 31 screennames of the "fraudulent" sales?

Once I provide you with the LJ screennames will you tell me where the 20 mystery sales picked up the LJ cookie?


I think lots of people would want to know the answers to these questions, especially about the cookie

It would seem that all your non-whitelabel affiliates are losing sales because of your cookie policy. Shouldn't the webmaster who was last visited by the customer have the right to know who the previous webmaster is when that's the guy getting paid for that sale?

If you don't give us that info that leaves us no way to verify that we're not getting screwed.

You have publicly stated your interest in demonstrating to your affiliates that you're not skimming sales.

The ONLY way I can think of to prove you're not skimming is to provide the name of the affiliate that got the sale.


PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

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Mutt 12-07-2010 09:59 PM

I'd trust this guy without knowing a thing about him over a company that lied through its teeth when the 'Lifetime' affiliate cookie turned out to be a 14 day cookie and pours hundreds of thousands of advertising dollars into the pockets of thieves.

jimmycooper 12-08-2010 12:40 AM

CXA -

For what it's worth, I think you're capable of moving any mountain that's capable of moving. Take them down.


topsiteking 12-08-2010 02:05 AM

Is this ever going to end?

CunningStunt 12-08-2010 03:20 AM

I skipped a few pages, did anyone from AWE respond anywhere?

If it makes you feel better, I took them for $2K for some banner ads on one of my sites a few months ago.

Mickey_ 12-08-2010 05:15 AM

Neil,

Question #1 was answered in my previous reply 3 days ago.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17751154&postcount=339

We do not give out personal information about our affiliates. I will, as stated earlier in my reply, provide you with the affiliate ID's to which the sales were credited. Feel free to email me.

Question #2:
The member ID's of the sales that were flagged cannot be given out in order to maintain the effectiveness of our affiliate risk and compliance practices.

If you have additional questions feel free to contact me.

CXA 12-08-2010 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE (Post 17758658)
Neil,

Question #1 was answered in my previous reply 3 days ago.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17751154&postcount=339

We do not give out personal information about our affiliates. I will, as stated earlier in my reply, provide you with the affiliate ID's to which the sales were credited. Feel free to email me.

Question #2:
The member ID's of the sales that were flagged cannot be given out in order to maintain the effectiveness of our affiliate risk and compliance practices.

If you have additional questions feel free to contact me.


BULLSHIT!!!

Everyone please read Mickey's reply very carefully. He has stated that when AWE FUCKS US UP THE ASS they won't even give us a drop of lube.

How convenient??? They have a privacy "policy" for everything that might help an affiliate get the facts needed to see if AWE is FUCKING US UP THE ASS.

Mickey: Do you agree that without knowing what URL the sale originated from, that the affiliate has no way to know if you're skimming or not? We ONLY have your word for it.

CXA 12-08-2010 07:11 AM

Mickey:

You have posted this line many times on GFY:


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As I pointed out to you earlier, any affiliate is free to do test signups at any time as long as they let us know afterwards.
Here's my question:

What is the point of doing the "test" when AWE is the only one with the "answers" and won't share them with the class?

If you won't tell us who got credit for the "test" sales then how can we ever know if you're skimming or not?


Carmen80 12-08-2010 07:35 AM

Okay AWE is gay.. Im never gonna work with this faggot asshole.

CXA 12-10-2010 01:18 PM




Mickey,

You have to be one of the slimiest characters I've encountered in this industry known for slimy characters.

Whatever financial success you have achieved comes at way too high of a price for most decent people.

You live in the shadow world where lies, half-truths, scams and schemes are Standard Operating Procedure.

Even your staunchest supporters have expressed their dismay and disgust at your horrific business practices. You treat your affiliates like shit in your words and deeds.

Keep the $11,000 with my blessing. You are a maggot and not worth one second more of my time.

I bet your real name isn't even Mickey.



One of my favorite sayings is:
Don't complain ... compete
I'll have an announcement shortly regarding my camsite launch.
AVN is gonna be a blast this year

signupdamnit 12-10-2010 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CXA (Post 17765265)


Keep the $11,000 with my blessing. You are a maggot and not worth one second more of my time.

There you go.
Now make them sorry they ever did this by doing 1,000 times the business you did with them with someone else instead. :thumbsup

Agent 488 12-10-2010 02:50 PM

thread closed.

webair 12-10-2010 03:01 PM

Congrats to the winners!

Zyber 12-10-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CXA (Post 17765265)
Keep the $11,000 with my blessing. You are a maggot and not worth one second more of my time.

You give up already? :error

Phoenix 12-10-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CXA (Post 17765265)



Mickey,

You have to be one of the slimiest characters I've encountered in this industry known for slimy characters.

Whatever financial success you have achieved comes at way too high of a price for most decent people.

You live in the shadow world where lies, half-truths, scams and schemes are Standard Operating Procedure.

Even your staunchest supporters have expressed their dismay and disgust at your horrific business practices. You treat your affiliates like shit in your words and deeds.

Keep the $11,000 with my blessing. You are a maggot and not worth one second more of my time.

I bet your real name isn't even Mickey.



One of my favorite sayings is:
Don't complain ... compete
I'll have an announcement shortly regarding my camsite launch.
AVN is gonna be a blast this year




why are you giving up on your money?

CXA 12-10-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17765738)
why are you giving up on your money?

I pretty much had given up before I started this thread.

AWE lost me as a loyal affiliate ... but they now have me as a fierce competitor.






topsiteking 12-10-2010 08:17 PM

Good Luck!

Agent 488 12-10-2010 08:26 PM

links up 100%. awe rocks.

CXA 12-11-2010 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17766047)
links up 100%. awe rocks.

You're so special :jester

18teens 12-11-2010 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CXA (Post 17765265)
Keep the $11,000 with my blessing. You are a maggot and not worth one second more of my time.

Never surrender.

CXA 12-13-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 18teens (Post 17766767)
Never surrender.


Not surrendering at all.

Just changing my tactics.

AWE will regret fucking me up the ass like they did.

iSpyCams 12-13-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CXA (Post 17771069)

Not surrendering at all.

Just changing my tactics.

AWE will regret fucking me up the ass like they did.

If you truly have as intimate contact with the people who signed up as you claim, there are fairly easy ways to make AWE pay for what they did.

I found myself in a similar situation about 18 months ago, (much larger dollar amount though) and it occurred to me that I could easily launch a chargeback campaign to mess with the program that had fucked me.

Instead I chose let it go and use my customer list more productively. Today I am glad I took the high road. I have made back what I lost many times and every day is getting better.

JFK 12-13-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17765469)
thread closed.

does that mean, I cant post in here any more ?:disgust

minicivan 12-13-2010 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 17771372)
If you truly have as intimate contact with the people who signed up as you claim, there are fairly easy ways to make AWE pay for what they did.

I found myself in a similar situation about 18 months ago, (much larger dollar amount though) and it occurred to me that I could easily launch a chargeback campaign to mess with the program that had fucked me.

Instead I chose let it go and use my customer list more productively. Today I am glad I took the high road. I have made back what I lost many times and every day is getting better.

This guy is the business partner of Julius Andrassy who has been selling hard links on Neils domains for years now and collecting payment in advance and not even putting the links up.

When I say "collecting payment in advance" I am talking about 5-10k at a time. Most of the big companies in adult know about these guys.

For this guy to be calling anyone out on any type of theft in adult is pure comedy.

iSpyCams 12-13-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by minicivan (Post 17771401)
This guy is the business partner of Julius Andrassy who has been selling hard links on Neils domains for years now and collecting payment in advance and not even putting the links up.

When I say "collecting payment in advance" I am talking about 5-10k at a time. Most of the big companies in adult know about these guys.

For this guy to be calling anyone out on any type of theft in adult is pure comedy.

Well I don't know anything about either of them. Never heard of the guy who's complaining, and I got some Awe links up but less than 100 uniques and no sales so nothing to complain about.

All I'm saying is EVEN IF what he's saying is 100% true, which I have no idea (and there's 2 sides to everything, even pure evil programs pay for traffic most of the time - at least until its time to make a run for it) is that in the past, in similar situations, the high road has worked for me and it should work for him. If he's got a valuable traffic source then there's no reason he couldn't shop a better sponsor for it.

In fact he was foolish not to have been split testing in the first place.

He's made his point, I am pretty sure the whole board is aware of it now, and I am also sure most people still remember drama regarding AWE's retroactive change in their TOS regarding "lifetime" revshare.

Most likely the "sniff test" will be an ongoing meme here.

It's time to move on now, webmasters get nowhere without creativity, and bitterness and creativity do not mix.

BradBreakfast 12-16-2010 02:25 PM

I'm baaaaccccckkkkkk.... More AWE info comming shortly as soon as I get on a computer.

JFK 12-16-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by minicivan (Post 17771401)
This guy is the business partner of Julius Andrassy who has been selling hard links on Neils domains for years now and collecting payment in advance and not even putting the links up.

When I say "collecting payment in advance" I am talking about 5-10k at a time. Most of the big companies in adult know about these guys.

For this guy to be calling anyone out on any type of theft in adult is pure comedy.

Seems to me, I have seen this name (Julius Andrassy ) mentioned on this board before:2 cents:

djroof 12-16-2010 02:31 PM

still alive this thread?


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