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Old 01-12-2018, 06:26 PM   #1
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Norway was once a shithole country. Then Norwegians emigrated to the U.S......

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From 1870 to 1910 a quarter of Norway's working-age population emigrated, mostly to the United States. You read that right ? one-fourth of its workers left the country.

Back then Norway was quite poor. Wages were less than a third of what they were in the United States. And the wave of emigration out of the country quickly benefited those who remained. That's because it reduced the supply of workers in Norway, so those left behind could demand higher wages. And this helped narrow Norway's wage gap with the U.S. by 25 percent over that same 40-year period, putting Norway on the path toward its status today as one of world's most prosperous nations.

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.....those who left Norway came from "some of the lowest skilled families. They are coming from either rural areas or they are [the product of fathers holding] lower skilled laborer positions in cities," she says.

And on arrival in the United States these Norwegian immigrants remained at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. Compared to immigrants from the 15 other European nations that contributed to this great wave of arrivals, "the Norwegians held the lowest paid occupations in the U.S.," says Boustan.

"They tended to be farm laborers. They were also fishermen. If they were in cities they were just sort of in the manual labor category ? what today you would think of as a day laborer."

"So when you look at the people leaving Norway you do pick up quite a bit of evidence of the poor, huddled masses," she says, referring to the famous Emma Lazarus poem at the foot of the Statue of Liberty.
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I live in area with lots of those folks. One guy thought he had really fallen in it when he saw someone put butter on white bread. Imagine how tough Norway was?
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Might pay to look up how the Norwegian's who did immigrate integrated and contributed especially 2nd and 3rd generation ones.. second from last behind the polish. ;) but don't tell Trump and supporters that.
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Back then Norway was quite poor. Wages were less than a third of what they were in the United States. And the wave of emigration out of the country quickly benefited those who remained. That's because it reduced the supply of workers in Norway, so those left behind could demand higher wages. And this helped narrow Norway's wage gap with the U.S. by 25 percent over that same 40-year period, putting Norway on the path toward its status today as one of world's most prosperous nations.


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So American people need to take in millions of 3rd world people. So the American worker's pay will go down, and the ones back in the 3rd world shit hole can see their pay go up. No thank you.
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yes.. .buttt .... but they are white and blonde ... just like Trump grandfather ....
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How come no one is emigrating to Haiti or some country in Africa?
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From 1870 to 1910
Yes, and nothing has changed and nothing major has happened in the 118 years since then. So the comparison to today is completely valid.
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second from last behind the polish. ;) but don't tell Trump and supporters that.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN ????
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Norway was once a shithole country.
Nothing has changed since that times...
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How come no one is emigrating to Haiti or some country in Africa?
Because their governments can't get their shit together. Quite frankly, no other countries want them to.
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Nothing has changed since that times...
.......there we go again...
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Norway's average IQ is 100.

Haiti's is 67.

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Norway's average IQ is 100.

Haiti's is 67.

the average IQ in each country is 100...comparing averages for a bell curve will always produce the same result...this result is that you are a dumb fuck
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Nope. The average IQ of the Dominican Republic (the other side of Hispaniola) is 82.
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Nope. The average IQ of the Dominican Republic (the other side of Hispaniola) is 82.
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Because their governments can't get their shit together. Quite frankly, no other countries want them to.
Also the very top takes most of the money.
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the average IQ in each country is 100...comparing averages for a bell curve will always produce the same result...this result is that you are a dumb fuck
That can?t be true. Take Russia as an example, smart people have been fleeing that country for decades. It has to have effected the general IQ.
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Hey Norwegians there is still time
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Sounds like Norwegians came to the U.S. looking for opportunity.
That time period for "poor, huddled masses" was BEFORE the welfare state in the U.S. was ever created.
Hell, income tax was still unconstitutional at that time (Congress had to amend the constitution to CREATE federal income tax).

So yeah, that poem (which is NOT part of the Statue of Liberty...it's a plaque from a poetry contest) about "poor, huddled masses" was never written at a time when it meant taking money out of American citizens families and giving it to immigrants from SHITHOLE countries who will go directly onto welfare.

Meanwhile...if you drive down side streets here in Vegas you see thousands of homeless AMERICAN citizens who can't get any help.
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How come no one is emigrating to Haiti or some country in Africa?
NOBODY ever says: "Boy I think I'm gonna sell my house here in the U.S. and move to Haiti. Or maybe to one of those African countries where warlords cripple women so they can catch them fast to rape them each day".

No...those countries aren't shitholes! And it's RACIST to suggest such a thing.
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That time period for "poor, huddled masses" was BEFORE the welfare state in the U.S. was ever created.
Hell, income tax was still unconstitutional at that time (Congress had to amend the constitution to CREATE federal income tax).

true, but (I'm not from USA and never lived there - yet ) does something like welfare state for ILLEGAL immigrants even exist ? dont they just work hard doing some shitty jobs like they did back in the XIX century ? and stay low, working hard and saving money ? how they even suck on welfare state if they are illegal ?

does something like welfare state even exists in USA, if you pay for example some stupid extraordinary rates for healthcare and so on ?

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NOBODY ever says: "Boy I think I'm gonna sell my house here in the U.S. and move to Haiti. Or maybe to one of those African countries where warlords cripple women so they can catch them fast to rape them each day".

No...those countries aren't shitholes! And it's RACIST to suggest such a thing.
actually many people say that. Maybe not exactly to Haiti, but to other poorer countries...many people are tired of their home countries (that includes US and is citizens, they also say that), and if they sell real estate for good money, they can live for low money in some cheap countries...
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I really dont see nothing wrong with 3rd and 4th picture...maybe on the 3rd one its "a little too much" of non natives Norwegians heh, but for me its better when the cultures and people mix. we are all humans....
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does something like welfare state for ILLEGAL immigrants even exist ?
Hell yes. Just look at the State Of California. They even give ILLEGAL immigrants drivers licenses.

But this discussion was about LEGAL immigrants. Not illegal.

American citizens in this country are homeless and need help...meanwhile we have politicians screaming about bringing in immigrants from SHITHOLE countries like Haiti...and those people WILL get help here (that's why they want to come here so badly).
In my opinion if even ONE person is let into the country and costs society money to support him it's morally wrong...as long as we have mentally unstable war vets living homeless on the streets with ptsd that have no help, we shouldn't be bringing in burdens to our country.

Other countries aren't stupid enough to do that. They demand that you have some sort of skills and abilities that enrich society.
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actually many people say that. Maybe not exactly to Haiti, but to other poorer countries...many people are tired of their home countries (that includes US and is citizens, they also say that), and if they sell real estate for good money, they can live for low money in some cheap countries...
I think that not only do "many people" NOT say that...I don't think that ANY sane human being would sell a home in a civilized country to move to a country that is disease-ridden, backwards, primitive, and crime ridden like Haiti.

Nope. No way I'd sell a primo piece of real estate in the U.S. (or any civilized country) to move to Haiti.
Can you imagine where a person would end up? You'd be living in a "green zone" type environment for white people with armed guards.

If I got "tired of my home country"...then I'd move to somewhere nice. Not a shithole.

And nobody said anything about living in a cheaper country. That's fine...but a shithole like Haiti or some of those war-torn African nations where daily bloodbaths occur? Fuck no.
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I think that not only do "many people" NOT say that...I don't think that ANY sane human being would sell a home in a civilized country to move to a country that is disease-ridden, backwards, primitive, and crime ridden like Haiti.

Nope. No way I'd sell a primo piece of real estate in the U.S. (or any civilized country) to move to Haiti.
Can you imagine where a person would end up? You'd be living in a "green zone" type environment for white people with armed guards.

If I got "tired of my home country"...then I'd move to somewhere nice. Not a shithole.

And nobody said anything about living in a cheaper country. That's fine...but a shithole like Haiti or some of those war-torn African nations where daily bloodbaths occur? Fuck no.
i said "Maybe not exactly to Haiti, but to other poorer countries"
Usually such countries offer more freedom in daily life than those "developed" ones...
as for Haiti, yeah, I agree that's shithole. But even if you would be crazy enough (why ? if you have 2 times more civilised neighbour with the same weather and laid back atmosphere on the same island) to live there, it wouldn't be that bad man. Just outside big city (the capital), its all quiet there. Some small town or village... the people would get used to you after some time. and you would become a part of society. its not Iraq/Syria/Somalia - actually I have some friends who also lived in said countries for some time and they were ok more or less
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That can’t be true. Take Russia as an example, smart people have been fleeing that country for decades. It has to have effected the general IQ.
smart people do not leave they thrive...

the average IQ of any country is 100...the number never changes no matter what...
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I ...........but for me its better when the cultures and people mix. we are all humans....
I may beg to differ.. yes the DNA is human and all are equal

But some have an instinct of animals.....not human.





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All of the above do NOT belong to the human race DNA or not !
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true, but (I'm not from USA and never lived there - yet ) does something like welfare state for ILLEGAL immigrants even exist ? dont they just work hard doing some shitty jobs like they did back in the XIX century ? and stay low, working hard and saving money ? how they even suck on welfare state if they are illegal ?

does something like welfare state even exists in USA, if you pay for example some stupid extraordinary rates for healthcare and so on ?

englighten me please....
This is a good point. So where do they live, eat and clothe themselves? They have to get jobs or State Welfare. Getting a job is easy if you can underprice an American. Cutting wages cut's tax revenues increases debt.

I googled the subject. us somali immigrants welfare
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I really dont see nothing wrong with 3rd and 4th picture...maybe on the 3rd one its "a little too much" of non natives Norwegians heh, but for me its better when the cultures and people mix. we are all humans....
Being human isn't a verification of one's ethics and morals. In fact, it could verify the opposite seeing how much strife there is around the world.











But this list shows why it's best they don't mix with us.

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