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djtomcat 05-13-2010 09:47 AM

nice post

LoveSandra 05-26-2010 12:36 PM

Good read

getmouthy 07-04-2010 12:53 PM

great read! Thanks for the valuable info :)

buildingfutures 12-17-2010 04:58 PM

I realize this is an old thread but man, this post is amazing. Thanks a lot for this!

adultforum 12-17-2010 06:49 PM

DJ you rock. It's the first post on gfy with more than 20 lines i read it completely. You are very good. Keep the good work and help the others too.

Sexgenoten 12-29-2010 08:41 AM

Defenatly something to think about.

With some adjustments i think i can make it work from an afiliate pov as well.

I will sit on it for a wee bit longer and let it brew....

DamianJ 01-06-2011 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultforum (Post 17782177)
DJ you rock. It's the first post on gfy with more than 20 lines i read it completely. You are very good. Keep the good work and help the others too.

Thanks so much, kind to hear.

I am doing a seminar on Monday at InterNEXT about it if you are attending.

Barefootsies 05-18-2011 08:13 AM

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HarryMuff 06-17-2011 09:18 AM

This was a top notch and stand-up post, I feel confident in my email skills after attending this riveting lecture on the subject. You should publish a paper on your amazing findings.

mike|melina 06-23-2011 02:00 PM

Excellent read, thanks!

mukeshsnp 07-09-2011 02:36 AM

Thanks for writing it !

dc0ded 07-20-2011 03:29 AM

good job. very good article. very educational. hope you keep up the good job.

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ManPuppy 09-05-2011 07:23 AM

I've used e-mail marketing on all of my mainstream sites with results similar to the ones you outline, but I've been skittish about using it for my one adult site for the reason Kolargal mentions. One of my mainstream sites, a daily spiritual suggestion site, was briefly crippled when a malicious subscriber set up numerous subscriptions through numerous @MSN accounts then marked all the e-mails as spam. I had to change IP's, do some extra validation with my sign-up script, and rewrite my Privacy Policy to reflect the additional information I was collecting for validation (which still isn't a 100% guarantee it won't happen again).

This was an inconvenience for a mainstream site; it could have ended up a legal exposure for an adult site. The state of Florida is starting to become meanspirited toward adult, ignoring the letter of their own law to get a righteous sounding headline. If I do decide to do adult e-mail in the future, it will definitely be third party, to limit exposure as much as possible.

That said, yes, it does bring great results. And as a sidenote, I've also gotten a lot of mileage out of, "HI! WANNA FUCK?" ;)

2ndxachrm 12-11-2011 11:53 PM

nice read

2ndxachrm 01-05-2012 11:24 PM

Nice article, good information, Thanks

DirtyHardCash 03-23-2012 09:15 PM

Great info
 
Great info - really helpful

Bat_Man 04-22-2012 04:18 AM

Hello .. I appreciate your good work .. Thumbs up dude ..

realgirlsgonebad 05-20-2012 05:14 AM

very informative, many thanks

GFELIFE 06-09-2012 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 16966925)
Hello. My name is Damian. Some of you may know remember me from shows as "That rubbery faced British bloke that does magic at Internext". I have worked in online marketing since 1998 and been focussing on adult since 2004. I offer creative marketing services for many adult sites, run affiliate programmes and consult on opt in permission-based email marketing. In short, any part of marketing from corporate branding to clever ideas for banners. I worked for Playboy UK and Epoch before setting up on my own. I now consult solely with companies that I like and want to work with, like NSCash, and I help them make more money. Oh and I also do a vaguely amusing rip off of diggnation at www.pornbeer.com.

In this post I shall be showing you how to use email to engage, acquire, retain and especially win back customers. Let's start with a precis of a blog post I wrote over at http://www.adultmarketing.co.uk about permission marketing. If you want to read more about the idea of permission marketing, check out Seth Godin's book (4 chapters free here http://www.sethgodin.com/permission/) and his blog http://sethgodin.typepad.com/.

There's no point running into a singles bar and running up to every girl in there, one at a time and shouting in their face CAN I FUCK YOU? Really, I've tried. The best you are likely to get is a slap. However, this ballsy approach is what you're doing with your current advertising. Just interrupting people and saying BUY MY PORN. Banners, print ads, sponsorships at shows. All are just shouting CAN I FUCK YOU. I suggest, politely, this may not be the best approach.

If you go to the singles bar and see a girl you like, smile and walk over and ask if you can buy her a drink, you might get her attention. You chat for a while. You ask for her number. She likes the look of you so you get the number. Then, after the obligatory 3 days you call. You arrange a date. It's dinner. It's great. She laughs at your jokes, she seems interested. You do NOT try and fuck her. You are trying to get her to trust you. You can get laid any night of the week, but this is special. You would like to get to know her better. To build up relationship that might last more than 24 hours. You have another date, and another, THEN you try and have sex. Oddly enough, the odds are MUCH more likely you will get some sweet loving' now. She knows some stuff about you. She thinks you're funny. She trusts you. And she puts out. And puts out again, and again, and again. She likes you!

Thanks for the sex tips, Damian. But how does this help me do email, I hear you cry? Simple. It's just the same. Ask permission to email people, and then email them what you said you would. Don't spam them. Just send them a newsletter?

Acquire

The cheapest way to acquire new members is to use email newsletters. Put a harvesting box on every page you can. I would have them on every page on a site. Put them on 404 pages. The works. Make it a very simple call to action that gives the surfer a clear benefit.

"Sign up for our free weekly email with free hot pics and videos. We promise we'll never, ever rent, sell or giveaway your email address to anyone. Ever. We value your privacy."

Then, once a week, send them a newsletter with one gallery and one 30 second video clip. Just the promo content you would give to an affiliate. No extra work needed from you. Also, obviously, put in adverts and sales messages.

IMPORTANT - make sure the copy in the email is free of commonly blocked words. i.e.

CHANGE THIS:
Watch this teen sluts show their shaved cunts and get covered in hot spunk

TO THIS:
See this naughty girl show you her lady parts and get drenched in manmilk.

I am trying to change the obviously 'blocked' words to similes or euphemisms in order to get the email past the filters. Don't just put the text as a graphic. In order to get delivered to the inbox you need to have a mixture of text and graphics in your email. For more on email deliverability read this: http://www.email-marketing-reports.c...troduction.htm

After you run this campaign for a couple of years you will see something interesting happen. Sales of up to 1:200 from the newsletters. You have turned strangers into friends and friends into customers. You are not shouting CAN I FUCK YOU. You are letting people get to know and trust you. And oddly enough, when you do that, they are much more likely to buy from you.

Good open and click rates for general consumer email is 20% open, 0.5%-1% click. One of my clients, 3wayscash.com has open rates of around 50% and click through rates of 25%. Astonishingly successful.

Retain

When I worked at Playboy UK I set up their email programme. We started a retention idea I had. Basically, the site was updated frequently but when people cancelled the reason they gave was not enough updates.

So, I decided to email the members the weekly updates. People thought I was crazy. They said that I was reminding people they were paying for a porn site and this was suicide. They said much better to hope people forget it rebills and get more cash out of them. I initially planned to do it for the TV customers and the online. The TV were adamant I couldn't mail their customers. So, I just mailed the web customers.

⁃ The retention went up around 18%
⁃ It stayed there
⁃ The open rate on the email was very high

2 months later the TV department came to me with their tails between their legs asked if I could please email their members as well as mine. :)

Obviously, your mileage may vary. But, the best bit about email is you can test and measure. If you - like the TV boss - think this won't work - just take 10% of your members and mail them the updates. See the difference. Then decide if you want to roll it out to everyone.

Winback

This is the thing you have no excuse not to do. You have a list of people with credit cards, who bought porn from you. Why the HELL aren't you mailing them asking them to come back? They have credit cards. They like your content. As a minimum, send them a mail saying "We miss you, please come back. We added all this new hot content, you'll love it".

I do a very detailed plan for this with a "logic tree" that governs the mails they get. Pleads, price offers, etc. You can start off very simply. Send them a mail. If they do NOT open it, send it again in a week with a different subject line. If they open it, but do NOT click, in a week send them a different creative. Job done.

I would send only one email per person per week.

At Playboy UK I got between 8-11% of cancelled customers to come back using this method.

It really is this simple. Be nice to your potential customers. Send them free porn. When they cancel, ask them nicely to come back.

I'd love to hear how you get on. Please email damian AT adultmarketing.co.uk with any questions or comments. I love feedback.

If anyone wants to discuss this, or any of the other creative marketing services I offer, I will be the British dude at Phoenix doing magic tricks at the bar. Come say hi.



Recommended reading:

CAN-SPAM - where you stand legally (US only)
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/busi...rce/bus61.shtm

Open source email clients
http://dadamailproject.com/
http://phplist.com
http://infinite.ibasics.biz/


crizatu 11-21-2012 01:57 AM

Great post! I have to start working on email marketing more

DonX 04-25-2013 09:23 PM

Thank you Damian :thumbsup

Throckmorton 06-21-2013 03:56 PM

Interesting ideas. Thanks.

pervlens 07-19-2013 12:19 PM

Cracking post Damien, thanks for sharing.

Bec 10-30-2013 02:23 PM

I absolutely agree with your "build the trust first" approach! Thanks for a very informative article!

American Psycho 10-30-2013 09:24 PM

Good read. Dj, any other edu threads?

Bec 10-31-2013 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by American Psycho (Post 19854732)
Good read. Dj, any other edu threads?

You will find 2 more of the Email series and a lot of tutorials by other authors here: GFY Educational Series

American Psycho 10-31-2013 09:58 AM

Awesome thank you.I'm Glad all the drama is staying out of the productive biz threads...

Claudiu_Radu 12-06-2013 04:50 AM

Thanks very much.

isexybody 08-02-2014 02:49 AM

Email sales have many restrictions. thank you!

CPGs 10-08-2014 12:51 PM

Good stuff!

Karlstorm 11-18-2014 08:31 AM

Great read thanks Damian, I read Seth Godin's book last year. Very informative.

Karlstorm 11-18-2014 08:53 AM

A question to Damian or anyone else.
What software are you using to manage your email campaigns?
I looked into mailchimp but they claim they don't deal with adult.

silviustr 12-12-2014 01:53 AM

Great article!

bella.franceska 12-12-2014 01:53 AM

Thanks a lot man for all this killer post

miss.ralu 12-12-2014 02:23 AM

Excellent post, thanks a lot !!

parleal 12-12-2014 02:23 AM

This is HUGE man, thanks!

Mark Suris 12-13-2014 05:13 AM

Good read, thanks a lot!

fappingJack 12-16-2014 01:55 AM

Thanks damian.

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