Was there really a JESUS CHRIST?
 

What do you think?

He is a member of this forum.

Seen him in Walmart the other day.

oh ya ...

Anathema!

He was just another man who made great speeches and found many dumb followers.

yes, he is now on sky, and he will be back

There seem to be a historical record of his existence but you just need to read what his followers call his 'imaculate conception' to come to you own conclusion about his paternity. Basically, you can interpolate the PR about how he was conceived to all the other miracles he was supposed to have performed.

I'm pretty sure there was an actual man with a big charisma. Like a guru.

But there were no magical happenings.

Pretty sure it has been confirmed that the man existed.

Jesus is lord!

Very true, but the lord of what?

Not until Tim Tebow got here.

Please show me some proof :1orglaugh

The first-century Roman Tacitus, who is considered one of the more accurate historians of the ancient world, mentioned superstitious ?Christians? (from Christus, which is Latin for Christ), who suffered under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius. Suetonius, chief secretary to Emperor Hadrian, wrote that there was a man named Chrestus (or Christ) who lived during the first century (Annals 15.44).

Flavius Josephus is the most famous Jewish historian. In his Antiquities he refers to James, ?the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ.? There is a controversial verse (18:3) that says, ?Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was one who wrought surprising feats....He was [the] Christ...he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.? One version reads, ?At this time there was a wise man named Jesus. His conduct was good and [he] was known to be virtuous. And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemned him to be crucified and to die. But those who became his disciples did not abandon his discipleship. They reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion, and that he was alive; accordingly he was perhaps the Messiah, concerning whom the prophets have recounted wonders.?

Unless you want to discount all history.

Anthony Robbins of his time with a great PR crew.

nope, no JC

Yes, he was a carpenter that did amazing things in his time including making people believe in being good.

He was a ladies man!

Maybe, maybe not.

But how about the idea of loving your fellow man?

I knew a Jesus Ramirez once. He used to run an exhaust shop in simi valley.

sure but there were a number of people claiming to be gods or the son of gods, a number of virgin births and other mythological hoey that people believed in back then;

no doubt he existed and was probably a genius of both heart and mind, and probably a major empath.

wow that sounds corny, but what can ya do;)

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Swedish band Marduk:

C'mon Lloyd, I need something other than a copy and paste from gotquestions.org

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_6MAkREpM30...08464d1c_h.jpg

http://skammie.net/pictures/albums/u...anta-jesus.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BkHRJwwXfm...vs%2Bjesus.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...anta_jesus.jpg

:xmas-smil22

ADG

Do you deny the existence of Abraham? David? Goliath? Need to know what I am dealing with here. :1orglaugh

It's impossible to deny the existence of Christ, Abraham, etc because even if they never did exist in the flesh (which they probably did to some degree) they exist because people have seen them or felt them or read them as real historical people, and they will forever believe they are real.
Schrodinger's cat and the idea that things exist simply because we percieve them.
Which is valid enough.
This is why it's silly to confirm or deny the existence of extraterrestrials for example. They have been percieved so the cat's out of the bag. they exist on one plane or the other.

I've been drinking;)

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President Obama?

If Jesus was real, what must he think of how we honor his birthday...idolizing a gluttunous fat man in red who promotes unrestrained consumption. The relentless drive to keep up with the joneses.

Corporate Christmas is the ultimate betrayal against Jesus.

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Oh I know several dozen Jesus' from Paterson and Newark.

How did they exist at all if they never existed in the flesh? wtf?

great Burzum post by the way, can't believe he's finally out of prison.