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Radical Bucks 03-14-2012 10:53 AM

Arizona Going to put all pornographers in prison
 
Porn is now over. Or it will be very soon.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

Arizona looking to deem porn as prostitution with mandatory jail/prison sentence.

Looks like NWO taking over very soon.

LeRoy 03-14-2012 11:11 AM

No weed, no Mexicans now this shit!

NaughtyRob 03-14-2012 11:26 AM

So now the AZ and the LA porn guys will be heading to LV.

brassmonkey 03-14-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 18823023)
No weed, no Mexicans now this shit!

illegal mexicans and weed is legal smoke it at home :)

JFK 03-14-2012 11:49 AM

Hope they dont come hanging around to the Forum:2 cents:

just a punk 03-14-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18822980)
Porn is now over. Or it will be very soon.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

Arizona looking to deem porn as prostitution with mandatory jail/prison sentence.

Looks like NWO taking over very soon.

Good move :)

xNetworx 03-14-2012 11:54 AM

Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.

Solo stuff wouldn't violate the law.. :upsidedow

just a punk 03-14-2012 12:03 PM

The land of free my ass :1orglaugh

Tom_PM 03-14-2012 12:08 PM

Thats true, is a movie ticket a "valuable consideration"? How about dinner?

Going to need to go through a lawyer to request the pleasure of her company.

garce 03-14-2012 12:12 PM

All pornographers? I'll just hang out here and wait for them, then...

AllAboutCams 03-14-2012 12:21 PM

you can go to jail for prostitution ?

LiveDose 03-14-2012 12:22 PM

How much porn is shot in New Hampshire?

just a punk 03-14-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxxupdate (Post 18823297)
you can go to jail for prostitution ?

In the "land of free"? Yes, you can! LOL

scottybuzz 03-14-2012 12:29 PM

I wonder what lazycash thinks of this???

Barry-xlovecam 03-14-2012 12:30 PM

That is the law in most States in the USA ...

96ukssob 03-14-2012 12:31 PM

probably because everyone from California moved there, now they dont want to be known as the new porn capital

Radical Bucks 03-14-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StripperCash (Post 18823180)
Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.

Solo stuff wouldn't violate the law.. :upsidedow

Wrong.....

"Montgomery said the state law would prevent the establishment of a "pornography industry" to any degree."

Time to rethink the term solo when it means any pornography and sexual situations or acts... to ANY degree.
Solo masturbation is a sexual act. Therefor you will be prosecuted for these violations in Arizona. Its also in the works that porn will be soon be human trafficking.

Time to leave the US

biskoppen 03-14-2012 04:17 PM

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Radical Bucks 03-14-2012 04:23 PM

The lawyer said in an official statement, "Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

This means if a porn company pays for flights to and from anywhere in the US to perform in a pornographic performance is guilty of felonies. Also clearly states if you solicit to anyone from Arizona is guilty just the same, meaning not even having shot the the content yet. Arizona convicts just on the conspiracy to commit and which carries more time than the actual act itself.

Adult Talent Agents will be prosecuted as well. meaning Arizona will go after Derek of LADirect direct if he sends a model to Arizona for a sexual performance for money.

As case law: Max Hardcore sat in his California home while FLA decided to convict him for the violations in FLA.

sicone 03-14-2012 04:28 PM

I wonder if any of this has to do with that guy getting busted for trying to shoot underage girls a few months back.

Radical Bucks 03-14-2012 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sicone (Post 18823891)
I wonder if any of this has to do with that guy getting busted for trying to shoot underage girls a few months back.

Most likely has much to do with it just as well.

Just look at the harm that guy and BRCC has caused in the state of Arizona.
Girls getting kicked out of college, under age crimes and more.

Arizona will slam them and do everything to keep the porn industry out.

So yes, when creeps like that commit these offenses, everyone in the industry is labeled and targeted the same way.

Jakez 03-14-2012 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18823901)
So yes, when creeps like that commit these offenses, everyone in the industry is labeled and targeted the same way.

So ridiculous. Lets ban alcohol and cars because some people can't use them correctly.

Just Alex 03-14-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18822980)
Porn is now over. Or it will be very soon.
http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

Arizona looking to deem porn as prostitution with mandatory jail/prison sentence.

Looks like NWO taking over very soon.

Would love to see Brassmonkey and Nikki Licks in pink panties getting their suntan on a beautiful day in AZ with120F weather. :1orglaugh
Oh, add that crazy guy Coats to this mix.

Radical Bucks 03-14-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 18823912)
So ridiculous. Lets ban alcohol and cars because some people can't use them correctly.

Are you saying that it is ridiculous and comparing CP to alcohol use?
Be careful what you say next.

adendreams 03-14-2012 05:09 PM

Where are the GFY Republicans here to chime in how they love their GOP?

Small government right??? hahahahah

Mr Pheer 03-14-2012 05:09 PM

Phoenix Forum may be interesting.

dgraves 03-14-2012 05:20 PM

I'm still holding my breathe on the .xxx thing and 2257 shutting down illegal tubes.

SuckOnThis 03-14-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StripperCash (Post 18823180)
Arizona law defines prostitution as "engaging in or agreeing or offering to engage in sexual conduct under a fee arrangement with any person for money or any other valuable consideration," according to the report.


I guess then marriage will soon be illegal in Arizona.

Dvae 03-14-2012 08:07 PM

Who was it that said this would not happen under Obama as President?

LightscapeMedia 03-14-2012 08:10 PM

So basically, in order to shoot porn in AZ, you would need to find girls who aren't in it for the money. No problem there.. I've shot a few like that, though they're few and far between. But then the model release would be invalid "for good and valuable consideration"

beemk 03-14-2012 08:15 PM

Are they banning gays next? Jimmy 3 is in trouble!

Joe Obenberger 03-14-2012 08:41 PM

But Can He Walk the Walk?
 
Tough talk isn't ever hard during an election year.

If he's going to actually get any convictions, he's got to convince the Arizona judges to turn around and change their reasoning.

In the Taylor case from 1990, they had no problems with the California cases that hold that the activity essential to making explicit videos is not prostitution. Taylor was a peep show dancer and the court said that her conduct was miles away from what the California Supreme Court protected in Freeman.

Read the cases for yourself. They are all here. http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

It's the best indication we have of how Arizona judges would rule. I think this prosecutor has an uphill battle whether he knows it or not.

BAKO 03-14-2012 08:42 PM

I would never live in that shitty state. I always have to force myself to go to the show. That town sucks balls.

LightscapeMedia 03-14-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger (Post 18824255)
Tough talk isn't ever hard during an election year.

If he's going to actually get any convictions, he's got to convince the Arizona judges to turn around and change their reasoning.

In the Taylor case from 1990, they had no problems with the California cases that hold that the activity essential to making explicit videos is not prostitution. Taylor was a peep show dancer and the court said that her conduct was miles away from what the California Supreme Court protected in Freeman.

Read the cases for yourself. They are all here. http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

It's the best indication we have of how Arizona judges would rule. I think this prosecutor has an uphill battle whether he knows it or not.

They might not be able to win a conviction, but they sure can make life hell. Constant raids, computer and content seizures, etc.

So again, I wonder if this is something they'd pursue if you were caught in the act, or if all it would take is finding a video on the internet and issuing a warrant based on that.

Joe Obenberger 03-14-2012 09:19 PM

Just think about what he risks politically if, after all that inflammatory language, he loses the case on First Amendment grounds - and how he'll be labeled as the prosecutor who hung up the Welcome Sign for porn by taking an unnecessary case to court.

If he has any common sense, he won't direct any arrests or take any such case to court unless he's got something else in the case that's a slam dunk, guns, drugs, underage, off camera criminal misbehavior, or the like. It would not surprise me if he's on the prowl for something like that now. I think he wants to scare the porn industry away, endear himself to the moral right, but take as few chances as possible in an election year. It's always possible that someone's recklessness might hand him those things on a silver platter.

martinsc 03-14-2012 09:25 PM

:Oh crap :Oh crap

dgraves 03-14-2012 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia (Post 18824220)
So basically, in order to shoot porn in AZ, you would need to find girls who aren't in it for the money. No problem there.. I've shot a few like that, though they're few and far between. But then the model release would be invalid "for good and valuable consideration"

it would be easy to get around the money part. the talent can be paid for something else and shoot the video for "free" but it doesn't sound that simple according to the "establishing a venue for the filming and/or production" part.

"Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

L-Pink 03-14-2012 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18823162)
Good move :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 18823311)
In the "land of free"? Yes, you can! LOL

No one likes a gloating Russian ass-hat that pops up in every thread with something negative in the US. Glad your country is perfect ... lol

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Joe Obenberger 03-14-2012 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18824371)
it would be easy to get around the money part. the talent can be paid for something else and shoot the video for "free" but it doesn't sound that simple according to the "establishing a venue for the filming and/or production" part.

"Furthermore, anyone involved in other aspects of producing pornographic movies, including soliciting individuals to appear, collecting a fee from the monies received by individuals solicited to appear by virtue of an agent relationship, transporting individuals from California to Arizona for the purpose of appearing in a pornographic movie, and/or establishing a venue for the filming and/or production of pornographic movies may be guilty of committing one or several felonies in the state of Arizona."

The trick of paying for something legal to get around the prostitution statutes has been tried. When it goes to court, it doesn't work anywhere. For example, the DeBartolo case discussed and linked here, and the Texas cases it cites. http://www.xxxlaw.com/state-laws/prost-primer.html

Radical Bucks 03-14-2012 11:33 PM

Joe, you do not know how Arizona operates. Arizona's conviction rates is 98.9% positive.


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